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On July 21 2010 08:31 nennx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:03 Athos wrote: Hey, does anybody know how to jungle Nasus/ is it even a good idea? In the 2 games I tried it I failed epically and was unable to kill golum for way too long and died like 3 times. Really embarrassing actually.
Of course nasus works great as a 1v2 or just a laner, but I want to be able to pick a jungler not named Shaco/warwick. I don't think nasus is viable in the jungle until you have level 2 or 3 spirit fire at least Fiddlesticks, olaf, or xin are all decent junglers too  Nasus has no problems jungling at all
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On July 21 2010 08:58 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. also i think i can sum up 85% of shikyu's posts in this topic: MAN SO I DID SO GOOD I WAS LIKE X-1 WHERE X IS LIKE AT LEAST 5 AND MY TEAM LOST AND BLAMED ME ROFL WTF MM U SO BAD nah mostly I talk about stuff being talked about, like 3 posts about veigar noob teammates, that one post was about teammates blaming me yes, how's that 85%?
I don't think I've blamed MM either.
Nidalee gameplay getting better, now I just need to not fail laning.
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So my team just won 30-1. I went 15-1 as Warwick. Never have I felt so bad about a positive score.
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That's like me, always the poor sod dying and ruining perfect records.
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On July 21 2010 09:25 Southlight wrote: That's like me, always the poor sod dying and ruining perfect records.
I WANTED THAT QUADRA KILL MAN. Had to settle for a triple.
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I really wish I hadn't realized that you can check someones games won, level and solo ranked record by mousing over their names in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. Now my faith is shattered immediately as opposed to 10 minutes in when its 0-9 and people are building their first items.
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On July 21 2010 09:03 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:31 nennx wrote:On July 21 2010 08:03 Athos wrote: Hey, does anybody know how to jungle Nasus/ is it even a good idea? In the 2 games I tried it I failed epically and was unable to kill golum for way too long and died like 3 times. Really embarrassing actually.
Of course nasus works great as a 1v2 or just a laner, but I want to be able to pick a jungler not named Shaco/warwick. I don't think nasus is viable in the jungle until you have level 2 or 3 spirit fire at least Fiddlesticks, olaf, or xin are all decent junglers too  fiddle and olaf are jungling beasts but xin is definitely not an ideal jungler imo olaf jungle is fucking terrifying. i'm still waiting for someone better than me to post a guide on how to do it properly so i can rape all enemy champs
the best xin's i've played with / against have jungled ;<
he may not be the best at it, but if you dont have someone else good for jungling its worth it to have him do it
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On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. I actually see a lot of people jungle with amumu in the weirdest way ever, even hotshotgg jungles completly idiotic (wraiths, steals exp from mid, goes golem at lvl 2). Fastest way I've found is.
Dorans Shield/1hp pot. Lvl Despair and start at Golem. Turn on despair, auto attack him, smite at the end (Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last.). You do this while using your heal potion.
Then you go Wolves, golems, lizard.
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xin is a really slow and bad jungler. I dunno, he just doesn't gain enough from his passive to do it effectively. and meanwhile he's a strong laner, so yea, I'm just not a fan of jungle xin.
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On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote: (Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last.)
it does % of max health, not current, doesn't it?
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I just do stone golems, wraith, wolf, recall, golem, wraith, stone, recall, wolf, lizard, etc.
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On July 21 2010 09:04 ghen wrote: Shhh don't say that, now we're going to have the next 3 pages of him telling you how you're wrong with examples that prove you're right.
qft
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Suicide for the team Karth isn't as fun to play as snipe karth.
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Now I got an Ashe who went 0-6 then left when I took "her" golem with nidalee, making our 0-3 alistar rage at me for stealing a teammate's buff and go afk.
supsup
EDIT: In that game I was solo mid vs fiddle and went 2-1 with 57-20 minion kills and got the mid turret down without mine taking any damage.
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On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. I actually see a lot of people jungle with amumu in the weirdest way ever, even hotshotgg jungles completly idiotic (wraiths, steals exp from mid, goes golem at lvl 2). Fastest way I've found is. Dorans Shield/1hp pot. Lvl Despair and start at Golem. Turn on despair, auto attack him, smite at the end (Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last.). You do this while using your heal potion. Then you go Wolves, golems, lizard.
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I like the Cloth Armour+5 HP pots start more because cloth armor builds into HoG.
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On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. I actually see a lot of people jungle with amumu in the weirdest way ever, even hotshotgg jungles completly idiotic (wraiths, steals exp from mid, goes golem at lvl 2). Fastest way I've found is. Dorans Shield/1hp pot. Lvl Despair and start at Golem. Turn on despair, auto attack him, smite at the end (Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last.). You do this while using your heal potion. Then you go Wolves, golems, lizard. The reason he doesn't do that is because going golem at lvl 1 is going to get you ganked most of the time
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On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. I actually see a lot of people jungle with amumu in the weirdest way ever, even hotshotgg jungles completly idiotic (wraiths, steals exp from mid, goes golem at lvl 2). Fastest way I've found is. Dorans Shield/1hp pot. Lvl Despair and start at Golem. Turn on despair, auto attack him, smite at the end (Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last.). You do this while using your heal potion. Then you go Wolves, golems, lizard.
Hotshot does his pattern because it allows him to open Doran's without sacrificing jungle speed(if you don't go cloth+5hp pots you'll have to base much quicker). This makes him a better ganker at lvl 4.
There are other amumu junglers that open wraith camp too though, it actually seems very popular(possibly because it's much harder to stop a lvl 2 golem kill while you are in lane than it is to disrupt the lvl 1 pre-wave 1.)
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Starting to get alright with Nidalee. Playing her AD Mid, it's working really well. I'm using Clarity/Ghost until I hit level 12 and can afford flash.
Any tips for Nid? I'm starting with javelin throw, then getting Primal Surge and Bushwack. Then I max out primal surge, getting my ult when I can, then max out javelin throw and get bushwack last. I don't find her traps to be THAT effective other than for scouting. Primal Surge/Clarity keeps me alive forever.
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On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last. 99% sure it's based on max hp, not current hp. Watch how much damage it does each tick... should be the same.
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On July 21 2010 10:23 Liquid`Tyler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 09:48 HazMat wrote:On July 21 2010 08:27 Mogwai wrote: err, yea, you can kill golem pretty easily with amumu. cloth armor + some hp pots + smite, you open despair, smite the golem, turn on despair, beat the little guys to death first, chug a potion during the fight and you're good to go. it's usually too risky though, better off opening with small golem camp so that you don't get wrecked by an early gank. Despair does more damage the more hp an enemy has so you want to smite last. 99% sure it's based on max hp, not current hp. Watch how much damage it does each tick... should be the same.
It is indeed based on max HP. I smite at the end because I'm paranoid of having other people the buff from me.
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