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On July 10 2010 02:44 HazMat wrote:
So how exactly will the transaction to season 1 work? Will our elo get reset or will they just make a whole new elo for ranked and keep our elo for un-ranked?

On July 10 2010 02:22 gtrsrs wrote:
are you guys kidding me? all but the ABSOLUTE worst players are going to move to ranked. unranked will be what Twisted Treeline is now - empty. there are sooooooo many terrible players that have just grinded their way to a large number of wins (even if their losses are also high) and think they're good at this game. didn't they do a poll on the LoL forums and like 70% of players think they're mid-high ELO? aka 70% of players think they're good enough to play competitively... ranked is going to be what normal 5's is now, and unranked is going to be dick around mode.

On July 10 2010 02:22 gtrsrs wrote:
are you guys kidding me? all but the ABSOLUTE worst players are going to move to ranked. unranked will be what Twisted Treeline is now - empty. there are sooooooo many terrible players that have just grinded their way to a large number of wins (even if their losses are also high) and think they're good at this game. didn't they do a poll on the LoL forums and like 70% of players think they're mid-high ELO? aka 70% of players think they're good enough to play competitively... ranked is going to be what normal 5's is now, and unranked is going to be dick around mode.

On July 10 2010 02:48 jaw wrote:
riots in that same thread did say that most people posting on their forum are in mid-high elo

On July 10 2010 03:17 Mogwai wrote:
good thing I'm in high-gosu ELO :p I can still look down on all those forum posters *whew*.

On July 10 2010 03:26 Shikyo wrote:
Word on the streets says that Shaco and Pantheon are getting nerfed on the competitive launch

On July 10 2010 03:29 NeoIllusions wrote:


There are some Panth tweaks in works (meaning in the next patch or one after). Nothing tangible in regards to Shaco.

On July 10 2010 03:37 Southlight wrote:
I play against named players enough that I'm confident (finally) of saying I'm a high elo player. Until like a month ago I was pretty confident in calling myself mid-high because I was running into named players once a week. :p I don't think there's really any other way of guestimating where you are.

Travis:
Sorry if I was sounding like a dick, I was trying to win, and we really needed to play perfectly to pull it off (5v4 -2 inhibs), so I was being really direct. To summarize the points I brought up:

Warwick's not (ideally) an initiator, as he simply cannot survive a lot of hits (especially if you build him the way you did) - that's where a true tank shines, as the tank just lumbers in and forces combat engagement, that way the softer attackers (Kat and WW) can get in and hit targets they should be hitting, as opposed to being relegated to hitting "whatever I can." So you need to just wait until Malphite goes in, and THEN ult onto whoever.

Number two (and not something I brought up in game) is that WW is pretty variable with item builds. Against squishy teams you can do stuff like heavy damage, but you also need to be aware that as the game goes on, your ult doesn't do much except to move you to a target (especially once you run into teams packing mass Cleanse). So you can't rely on it to "nuke" people to death, especially late-game when the damage you do with one hit (~300) doesn't stack up enough to actually kill someone (~2500+ hp).

Particularly against a tanky team like that (3000+ hp and lots of armor/mr) you need to change things up. For instance, BR stacks, and does damage based on max HP, so if you really wanted more damage it probably would have been better to simply stack BRs in that game.

At higher elos one of the things I see most WWs do is build a Bloodrazor and then stack Sunfires, as this solves his survivability issue, turns him into an initiator, and BR does decent enough damage to keep him a "must-hit" threat.

Hope that helps o/

Particularly against a tanky team like that (3000+ hp and lots of armor/mr) you need to change things up. For instance, BR stacks, and does damage based on max HP, so if you really wanted more damage it probably would have been better to simply stack BRs in that game.

On July 10 2010 03:37 Southlight wrote:


Any news about Heimerdinger? :|

On July 10 2010 03:44 APurpleCow wrote:
Er...isn't Bloodrazor's 4% damage thing unique?

On July 10 2010 03:45 NeoIllusions wrote:


Same boat as Shaco. Riot acknowledges Heimer is strong but are unsure about any changes (or they're not openly discussing them yet).

On July 10 2010 03:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
WW is a pretty terribad initiator. You ulti in and it's pretty much a "focus the wolf!" move for the other team. Even worse if the other team has Cleanse but you should hit tab before you ulti, obv. Though when Suppression gets in, WW and Mal ulti's will be a lot better.

WW in general is jungle control and secondly a disabler. Know that once you ulti in, you draw a ton of aggro. Play WW as you with Shaco. Skirmish a little, then initiate 2-3 seconds after fights begin. It'll guarantee you a lot more burst damage. Never ulti in first in a 5v5 setting where both teams are near full hp. That's just silly.