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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2010 16:53 GMT
#4201
I thought I was pretty big ass in that one game I played Sivir and almost carried O_o Was he actually worse than that?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:15:54
July 06 2010 16:58 GMT
#4202
On July 07 2010 01 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 01      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 01      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 01      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:52 ghen wrote:
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On July 07 2010 00:59 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: I really don't understand people who get criticized then go something like omg you're so mean! If you'd just take the advice into account and use it to develop your game you'd be a lot better off. If you can't take advice(I really don't think I raged much, if you think "wtf twitch" when he comes and starts attacking a minion when we could have killed heimerdinger is badmanner or raging or whatever, well be my quest) then you really won't improve. I guess if you're okay with that and just believe on your thing you'll have more "fun". My fun's winning.



You raged more in that game than any TL member has ever raged in any game I've played. I was amazed at your lack of grace.

I have fun winning too, but not at the expense of friendship.

You call that rage? You didn't see anything yet~. And no it's not at the expense of friendship 99% of the time, I hate no one. You have to understand in-game is different and after it everything's different again. Don't take stuff said in game personally.

On July 07 2010 01 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 07 2010 01 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:53 Southlight wrote:
I thought I was pretty big ass in that one game I played Sivir and almost carried O_o Was he actually worse than that?

My Ryze, heimer top. 5HITCOMBO cho mid, Ghen Gangplank and LodiDodii Twitch bottom

Okay I'll tell you everything I remember, judge yourself: I said -_- almost every time I died. When all enemy champions were in our jungle and I was bot and they all were mid and they killed me, I said something like "having fun hugging the tower?" but yeah I guess that was my fault, although they did no effort to do anything and still kept hugging the mid tower that wasn't even under any threat at that point in time.

I laned with a summoner lvl 4 heimer who played the champ for the first time. I asked for a lane swap(someone would swap with the heimer) after he ran to the tower and got killed by it. I had a heimer vs me on the lane and he was getting every single minion kill since Ryze can't really compare to him and our heimer was staying at the tower. 5HITCOMBO was soloing mid and he really did well that game, nothing wrong with his play whatsoever. However, botlane(Ghen pirate and LodiDodii Twitch) somehow kept feeding.

Oh screw it this is going to take way too long. Thing I remember best: Ghen's mid with Pirate, me and 5HITCOMBO running from their Amumu in their jungle above baron. Ghen makes no effort at all to save us, I die above our Golem, 5HITCOMBO dies a while after.

Then there was when Twitch came to top to gank heimer, I wasn't in position and Twitch was surrounded by 3 turrets, he starts attacking Heimer, dies, I say "wtf Twitch". Then at mid I combo Heimer to almost death, Twitch attacks a minion. I say "wtf Twitch?". Then when I died for the first time to a lvl 7 Warwick I'm pretty sure Twitch could have saved me with his slow but I don't think I said so because I'm not sure. If I did, that too.

In about 3 teamfights Ghen never was around, just did ulti and screwed around somewhere. He got banshee veil but I didn't ever see it lose it's effect. He never was in any of the teamfights and I think I complained about that.


At one point I was like wtf twitch with madreds bloodrazor? Then I told him of the crit build and that it's way better, and about gangplank I said you shouldn't do crit build without lvl 30 and full runeset because it's so fragile and you should have went for a more tanky gangplank build.



Overall, I really don't think I raged much at all and don't know what he's talking about, it wasn't even a standard 30-lane all capslock spam rant.

I try to let people know when I think they did something well and when they did something poorly, for most people this makes them play better because they want to be praised, then there's some, like apparently you, who just are like "you too tryhard".

Never even swore unless wtf is swearing, I think I was just being honest.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
July 06 2010 16:59 GMT
#4203
whats this suppression u guys are talking about?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 06 2010 16:59 GMT
#4204
On July 07 2010 01:53 Southlight wrote:
I thought I was pretty big ass in that one game I played Sivir and almost carried O_o Was he actually worse than that?

Talking about sivir, i think he is the only hard counter to heim, most of his skills are made to counter heim =)
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2010 17:01 GMT
#4205
On July 07 2010 01:59 Shizuru~ wrote:
whats this suppression u guys are talking about?


They're introducing a stun type where you can't cleanse out - suppression.

This is mainly to fix Malzahar (as Cleanse dicks him) but they're also pondering sticking it on Warwick (along with necessary nerfs for balance). It would be a joke if they were to stick it on AoE ults.

On July 07 2010 01:59 NB wrote:
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On July 07 2010 01:53 Southlight wrote:
I thought I was pretty big ass in that one game I played Sivir and almost carried O_o Was he actually worse than that?

Talking about sivir, i think he is the only hard counter to heim, most of his skills are made to counter heim =)


What? Ashe and Ezreal out-range Heimer's turrets, as does as high-level Trist, Taric can beat Heimer 1v1 (amusingly enough), Nasus and Morgana also grind down the turrets, etc.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:02:18
July 06 2010 17:01 GMT
#4206
yeti is sweet vs. Heim

nomnomnomnom, turrets.

Ezreal and Ashe and KogMaw are all also really good at shitting on heimer's turrets.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 06 2010 17:02 GMT
#4207
On July 07 2010 02:01 Mogwai wrote:
yeti is sweet vs. Heim

nomnomnomnom, turrets.


Hahahahahahahah yeah that's a hilarious counter, especially if Nunu takes Smite. Hello counterpick!
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ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
July 06 2010 17:04 GMT
#4208
On July 07 2010 01:53 Southlight wrote:
I thought I was pretty big ass in that one game I played Sivir and almost carried O_o Was he actually worse than that?


Not sure if we ever played together It wasn't anywhere near pub levels of rage if that helps.
Leon-bw
Profile Joined November 2006
France44 Posts
July 06 2010 17:05 GMT
#4209
I see many of you say that have some smurf.

I'm currently leveling (having decent Dota and Hon experience) and I don't get the idea of having to level again with very bad players either on your team or on the opponents team.

So why are you guys doing it ?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2010 17:05 GMT
#4210
heimer walks dejectedly over to his own tower, sits down and starts crying vs. Yeti.

i actually might wanna grief someone on my smurf by playing gangplank and raise moraling our friendly heimer turrets, lol. fuck heimer, god he's annoying as balls.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:10:44
July 06 2010 17:06 GMT
#4211
I rage sometimes when I'm with a premade. I rarely bitch about people feeding though (that said, having to deal with 10/0 shaco is not fun, for anyone). Mistakes happen, people get tower dived or ignited or whatever and it just becomes an uphill battle for them after that. I'll gladly go and cover your lane if it's in trouble, even at the expensive of my own exp gain.

There's really only two time I rage:

- people ditching their towers for too long
- people focusing tanks in teamfights

mostly because these mistakes happen more than once in a game and people just don't seem to learn even though it's really not that hard. What is it about that mordekaiser that makes you want to kill him so much, because it's bad practice to just go for the closest target >.>
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 06 2010 17:07 GMT
#4212
last time i played, i thought turret = range ashe?... or may be bc of the sight?

and how do you guys think about heim v heim battle at mid? had 1 today and it didnt turn out right...

random request: list of new features that season 1 will included?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
July 06 2010 17:07 GMT
#4213
wow, I just checked my lolbase profile and my Kat win-loss ratio is higher than my soraka ratio. Talk about misleading lol.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:10:16
July 06 2010 17:07 GMT
#4214
There was one game a couple weeks ago I was smurfing on Shindou Nagi and I got really annoyed when 3 people got baited and died. I felt a bit bad because I was concentrating really hard (not used to Sivir) and wasn't able to give much to Catriaa other than "you're just bad" because he kept getting killed by double stun (despite Veigar/Cho having 3 disables), and then when two people died at top after full rez despite me saying b a sarcastic "who didn't see that coming?" etc. etc. snowballed into me just wanting to /surrender because no one was listening when I said "def" "b" "push" etc.

On July 07 2010 02:05 Leon-bw wrote:
I see many of you say that have some smurf.

I'm currently leveling (having decent Dota and Hon experience) and I don't get the idea of having to level again with very bad players either on your team or on the opponents team.

So why are you guys doing it ?


I smurf because I can't play with most people on my main, as I'm pretty sure it has a pretty good Elo (playing against named players all the time), and so when I queue with someone of lesser level the results are very depressing. My smurf is an "everyone is welcome" sort of thing, and although I still have a tendency to be mean to people I definitely have a more open mind to screwing around etc.

On July 07 2010 02:07 NB wrote:
last time i played, i thought turret = range ashe?... or may be bc of the sight?

and how do you guys think about heim v heim battle at mid? had 1 today and it didnt turn out right...

random request: list of new features that season 1 will included?


Volley.

Heimer vs Heimer is kinda lulz.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 06 2010 17:10 GMT
#4215
I have a smurf purely for playing with irl friends who suck at LoL and blowing off steam. Like last night, I had been drinking and Pokey didn't wanna play on his main, so we just smurfed around for the hell of it without having to try hard.

I also plan on using it to learn new characters as my main is too high ELO to play champions that I'm uncomfortable with. And actually.. at this point, if I'm not Pantheon on my main, I'm a big hindrance to my team. I can't even play TF or Nidalee without feeling like a sack of dead weight.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:16:28
July 06 2010 17:11 GMT
#4216
On July 07 2010 02:05 Mogwai wrote:
heimer walks dejectedly over to his own tower, sits down and starts crying vs. Yeti.

i actually might wanna grief someone on my smurf by playing gangplank and raise moraling our friendly heimer turrets, lol. fuck heimer, god he's annoying as balls.


In one of the games with tenpromicro, actually I don't think he ever noticed, but when I was playing GP and Tibbers went low I would RM it. Derp derp.

On July 07 2010 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
I have a smurf purely for playing with irl friends who suck at LoL and blowing off steam. Like last night, I had been drinking and Pokey didn't wanna play on his main, so we just smurfed around for the hell of it without having to try hard.

I also plan on using it to learn new characters as my main is too high ELO to play champions that I'm uncomfortable with. And actually.. at this point, if I'm not Pantheon on my main, I'm a big hindrance to my team. I can't even play TF or Nidalee without feeling like a sack of dead weight.


Drunk Pokey is funny as hell. So much trashtalk.

On July 07 2010 02:07 pokeyAA wrote:
wow, I just checked my lolbase profile and my Kat win-loss ratio is higher than my soraka ratio. Talk about misleading lol.


Smash's TF w/l is like 2x that of Pantheon, but nightmares of the last time I saw him TF (and get DDDDDDDDDDDDDESTROYED by Maknoon rofl) make me very apprehensive of ever seeing that again, at least for a while.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 06 2010 17:21 GMT
#4217
On July 07 2010 02 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              07 2010 02      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:07 NB wrote:
last time i played, i thought turret = range ashe?... or may be bc of the sight?

and how do you guys think about heim v heim battle at mid? had 1 today and it didnt turn out right...

random request: list of new features that season 1 will included?

The only times I've played Heimer mid vs mid I've owned them in mid, had about double their minion kills, got their tower to half hp, then get ganked like an idiot and their heimer gets my tower and we get owned.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Leon-bw
Profile Joined November 2006
France44 Posts
July 06 2010 17:23 GMT
#4218
On July 07 2010 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
I have a smurf purely for playing with irl friends who suck at LoL and blowing off steam. Like last night, I had been drinking and Pokey didn't wanna play on his main, so we just smurfed around for the hell of it without having to try hard.

I also plan on using it to learn new characters as my main is too high ELO to play champions that I'm uncomfortable with. And actually.. at this point, if I'm not Pantheon on my main, I'm a big hindrance to my team. I can't even play TF or Nidalee without feeling like a sack of dead weight.


You talk about a "main" character, whats the format for competitive LoL (if any decided yet) ?

Players don't usually specialise in a hero, rather in a role (though they can be better with some dedicated heroes) in dota/hon, evenmore so when you have bandraft format which doesn't guarantee that you get to play your "main".

Is there no possibility for non ranked games in LoL ? Or maybe due to the experience and IP thing, there is not enough people playing there ?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 17:26:56
July 06 2010 17:24 GMT
#4219
On July 06 2010 23:33 Mogwai wrote:
in related news, I love that you main Kassadin now because Pantheon + Kass in midgame fights are straight up dirty. They really just melt 2-3 man skirmishes. o/


Belated, but...

It's also nice because Kassadin doesn't die end-game!

http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28107048

If they didn't have Aaerox on AP Soraka I woulda been able to 1v5 their team, but unfortunately... Couldn't outburst that stupid heal, and my team was too retarded, blah.

On July 07 2010 02:23 Leon-bw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
I have a smurf purely for playing with irl friends who suck at LoL and blowing off steam. Like last night, I had been drinking and Pokey didn't wanna play on his main, so we just smurfed around for the hell of it without having to try hard.

I also plan on using it to learn new characters as my main is too high ELO to play champions that I'm uncomfortable with. And actually.. at this point, if I'm not Pantheon on my main, I'm a big hindrance to my team. I can't even play TF or Nidalee without feeling like a sack of dead weight.


You talk about a "main" character, whats the format for competitive LoL (if any decided yet) ?

Players don't usually specialise in a hero, rather in a role (though they can be better with some dedicated heroes) in dota/hon, evenmore so when you have bandraft format which doesn't guarantee that you get to play your "main".

Is there no possibility for non ranked games in LoL ? Or maybe due to the experience and IP thing, there is not enough people playing there ?


Format for solo ranked (coming next week) is similar to nonranked matches (what's played now), except it's limited to single or duo queues.

Format for 5-man team ranked (coming next week) uses a bandraft, and Mog's been emo for the past month about it because if people recognize him they're just gonna ban Panth and he'll be QQ.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
July 06 2010 17:26 GMT
#4220
On July 07 2010 02:23 Leon-bw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 02:10 Mogwai wrote:
I have a smurf purely for playing with irl friends who suck at LoL and blowing off steam. Like last night, I had been drinking and Pokey didn't wanna play on his main, so we just smurfed around for the hell of it without having to try hard.

I also plan on using it to learn new characters as my main is too high ELO to play champions that I'm uncomfortable with. And actually.. at this point, if I'm not Pantheon on my main, I'm a big hindrance to my team. I can't even play TF or Nidalee without feeling like a sack of dead weight.
You talk about a "main" character, whats the format for competitive LoL (if any decided yet) ?

Players don't usually specialise in a hero, rather in a role (though they can be better with some dedicated heroes) in dota/hon, evenmore so when you have bandraft format which doesn't guarantee that you get to play your "main".

Is there no possibility for non ranked games in LoL ? Or maybe due to the experience and IP thing, there is not enough people playing there ?
i suggest you specialize in a character regardless. even with season 1 coming out, you should always have a "fallback/carry" hero at your disposal. expertise in a character allows the impossible to happen.
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