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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On July 03 2010 19:25 Juicyfruit wrote: i carry his trist with my pirate.lol after getting some advice from locodoco, I proceeded to stomp 11/0/3 as tristana in a 15-minute game. Guy knows what he's talking about O_o | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
sometimes hp/level seals are better than dodge seals. nimbleness proc is overrated so you should simply calculate the total theoretical health it provides. dodge seals give %health while hp seals give flat health bonus at lvl 18. if you plan on getting HP items then dodge seals are worth it. if not then hp/level is better. i used to use hp/level seals on nidalee. you are all building pirate wrong. skill order should be ult>oranges>morale>parley with morale being the first skill to deny 2 creeps in first wave. oranges give amazing staying power and morale just gives bonus mvspd/aspd. it's not like you're going to kill a smart person with parley unless god is really on your side that game. i just park myself in a side lane and rice it as long as possible, throwing in my ult to gank or help disengage across the map. items are dorans ring, merc treads, sunfire, atmas, youmuus/randuins in that order. | ||
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shalafi
394 Posts
But that's the "crit for 1000" paarley build, you play him melee apparently. I've never seen that. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 04 2010 04 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 04 2010 04 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 04 2010 04 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:59 shalafi wrote: About gangplank: there are many viable builds, but meki pendant + paarley spam last hit on minions is the build I've seen being succesful the most. Then buy tons of avarice blades (2-4, depending on how well you're doing with the farming. Then go on replacing the avarice blades with more powerful items. But that's the "crit for 1000" paarley build, you play him melee apparently. I've never seen that. Hotshotgg plays him pretty much like that, as a semitank, and it works really well. That build got nerfed kind of hard with the last patch though @what redtooth said, I wouldn't max scurvy before parrrley unless I needed to, if I had no problems on the lane I'd get more parrrley and get scurvy when necessary. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 04 2010 04:48 oberon wrote: What's the standard item for tanks against AP? I just nearly lost a game where we were 4v5 and my teammates kept getting pwnt by Heimer/Kat, and I couldn't tank them long enough to intervene. I built Aegis -- not enough. I finally bought two negatron cloaks, eventually building one into FoN, and we rolled. Is there something better for tanking AP than stacking negatrons? Banshees seemed reasonable, but catalyst is pretty useless and very expensive lategame. Depends on the hero, IMO. There's no "standard" way of getting MR because you need both MR and HP, and different heroes go about it different ways. | ||
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Pakje
Belgium288 Posts
On July 04 2010 00:27 NB wrote: you can see 1 level 3 rune is from 315->1k IP and you have to + Show Spoiler + ....GOAL!!FUCK YOU ARGENTINA!!! my advice is you should stick with runes lv1, use ip to buy at least 3 champs that you like to make sure you have an income when you reach 15(where trolls come in) and then start saving. i heard rune lv1 is 75% compare to lv3 and much cheaper! So everyone agrees lvl1 runes till im lvl 20? BTW i'm quite sure only 1 of those 2 pages can be active in a fight. | ||
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
On July 04 2010 06:20 Southlight wrote: Depends on the hero, IMO. There's no "standard" way of getting MR because you need both MR and HP, and different heroes go about it different ways. Well, I know you play Rammus, Malphite, and Amumu. How do you get MR on them when you have to tank, but the enemy team has a fed Kat or Annie or whatever? | ||
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On July 04 2010 06:46 oberon wrote: Well, I know you play Rammus, Malphite, and Amumu. How do you get MR on them when you have to tank, but the enemy team has a fed Kat or Annie or whatever? force of nature, the movespeed is extra good for amumu and rammus since they need to position and be next to people. Chalice of harmony on amumu should be good to keep despair up as well as the MR. Really if opponents is all spellcasters, Chalice+merc boots+force of nature is enough, after that you should just get health items. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Singed you'll obviously usually have a pretty fast Cata so you can just make Banshee, then wing it from there (I did Banshee GA once as an anti-AP). On the flip side I've seen Mundo rush FoN (as it synergizes well with his passive and his ult), etc. | ||
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: And obviously rushing MR items is not ideal, I've been pretty clear over time about how I prefer to get stuff like Sunfires to get HP first. But if there's a fed AP hero and there's an emergency MR requirement then that's how I'd go about business. Incidentally rushing GA on Taric is pretty standard now, so that's another tank hero that goes about getting HP/MR in different ways. Thus, no "standard" tanking build order. | ||
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slowmanrunning
Canada285 Posts
MASTER YI AND AKALI ARE PRICKS! | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
p.s. I love NuNu, I plan on playing him when I don't feel like playing panth anymore. It's really a shame he's not a real tank or a real nuker or a real support. End game just feels like such a hodgepodge and if your team isn't on point, all your little benefits just go to waste. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 04 2010 06 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 04 2010 06 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:46 oberon wrote: Well, I know you play Rammus, Malphite, and Amumu. How do you get MR on them when you have to tank, but the enemy team has a fed Kat or Annie or whatever? force of nature + guardian angel + banshee veil should make you almost immune | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Nimbleness proc is gamechanging when you're running away, especially because creep shots can trigger it, too. Hp/lv seals give you an extra, what, 178 hp at level 18? Whoop-de-fucking-doo. It only matters if you're at full hp, whereas dodge matters always every time you're hit by physical. Obviously 178 hp CAN save you if your opponent can burst for 2000 and you have 2178 hp, but let's not be stupid. But either way, if you're playing a caster you should be running mp5/lv seals, there's no point in running dodge because you're not a damage soak anyway and casters need mana more than they need dodge or 178 hp AT LEVEL 18. | ||
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Norp
United States55 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
that guy is too good. | ||
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