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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
wait really? i thought the only "ELO" you will be able to see is from doing ranked games. Wait so now that makes me wonder...does the start of the season erase everyone's previous W/L record and ELO? Is there going to be a new ELO for a new type of 'ranked game' separate from 'regular' games? Or is it just going to start and everyone's ELOs will magically appear, and once you hit level 20 every game is 'ranked?' | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I played against a 4 team of smurfs the other day...I'm level 17 they were 6 or so. Considering the account is completely independent of one's 'main' account (right?)how DOES the MM system figure it out? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Ranked solo queue - for solo and duo-queue. Elo will be visible, because this is a ladder. Ranked 5-man - for five-man. Elo will be visible, because this is a ladder. All three types are separate from each other, with different ratings. They've implied that your unranked hidden elo may factor into your base starting elo for ranked matches, but nothing definitive as far as I know. On June 30 2010 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote: So no more need for smurfing then if only the 'ranked' games count then, huh? I played against a 4 team of smurfs the other day...I'm level 17 they were 6 or so. Considering the account is completely independent of one's 'main' account (right?)how DOES the MM system figure it out? It's been implied by Zileas that you can have a super high elo by level 7-8. You're simply not matched up against level 30 highs yet because of the level differential. By level 10+ you start to be matched against level 30s, etc. At least with my smurf I can pretty much back this up - it didn't take that long for me to start seeing 600-win people, and that's even with me getting bored and screwing around after going like 20-0 to start. The primary method of detecting smurfs is via who the lowbie is premading with, I believe. So if you run in with 4 empty accounts you're not hit with a smurf penalty. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:02 WaveofShadow wrote: So no more need for smurfing then if only the 'ranked' games count then, huh? I played against a 4 team of smurfs the other day...I'm level 17 they were 6 or so. Considering the account is completely independent of one's 'main' account (right?)how DOES the MM system figure it out? well if they have won every game straight and they are premade, they should climb elo pretty fast. you still want a smurf if you dont feel like being serious and messing with non-main chars. On June 30 2010 01:02 Southlight wrote: All three types are separate from each other, with different ratings. They've implied that your unranked hidden elo may factor into your base starting elo for ranked matches, but nothing definitive as far as I know. not much of a ladder climb if they seed you is it? ah well it still makes sense so all the pros dont have to trudge through the newbies again. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:04 Orpheos wrote: not much of a ladder climb if they seed you is it? ah well it still makes sense so all the pros dont have to trudge through the newbies again. I can see both sides of the argument. It might be funny bashing newbies for a bit, but having to grind 50 games of bashing scrubbies can get pretty boring, hell it only took 20 games for me to get bored out of my mind on my smurf (that's even with me doing stupid stuff like nuking Soraka) and REALLY start f-ing around. I've also gotten bored of a game during the game itself. And it's also not fun for the scrubbies being bashed by a 5-man premade of Elementz etc. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
 most likely because I started to learn panth and im waaay better with vei/annie then him lol (7-16 with panth) | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
1) Is this a good build for Warwick: -cloth + 3 hp pots to start -madred's razor -berserker greaves -malady -madred's bloodrazer -phantom dancer 2) How do I stay viable late game as Zilean? My bombs do as much as anybody else's normal attacks. All I can do in battles is sit and watch people's HP bars and revive when needed. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
And it's also not fun for the scrubbies being bashed by a 5-man premade of Elementz etc. I can vouch for that.  Not for me myself, learning from those better than you is good, and I usually don't mind getting stomped as long as there's no juvenile trash-talking involved apart from the good-natured kind, but a friend of mind rages HARD and loud in vent. He also has a horrible habit of wanting to surrender once we lose an inhibitor or two. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
I finally played phreak the other day, he was playing locket udyr (one last hurrah before udyr is useless due to the locket nerf eh?) our kat got fed though so we won | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
2) How do I stay viable late game as Zilean? My bombs do as much as anybody else's normal attacks. All I can do in battles is sit and watch people's HP bars and revive when needed. This, pretty much. I have experimented with AP stacking on Zilean, however, and doublebombing can be pretty devastating lategame. It's pretty situational though. Mostly the way I see Zilean is a way to boost ganking/levels for your team so you can outlevel/item them earlier on. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:17 Brees wrote: I finally played phreak the other day, he was playing locket udyr (one last hurrah before udyr is useless due to the locket nerf eh?) Yep... I can't see myself playing Udyr anymore after they finish driving Innervating Locket into the ground. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:10 Slaughter wrote: Ah so thats how it is with your win/loss rate. I was 20-12 then went on a massive losing streak and now im 36-34 most likely because I started to learn panth and im waaay better with vei/annie then him lol (7-16 with panth)a similar thing happened to me. i was lik 75-60 and went on a MASSIVE losing streak. now im 83-84. but it didnt feel like i hit a barrier. it just felt like i kept getting matched with scrubs against decent opponents. the opponents didnt necessarily get better. i think MM thought i could carry my teammates. too bad i dont really like playing carry-ish chars. im more into kinda semi carries that help in teamfights but can still snowball(like kayle) On June 30 2010 01:20 Crucifix wrote: Any good buildup for Cho'Gath? I found this hero really suiting me, builded as a heavy tank with Angel and some armor stuff :D Still a newbie with builds but I'm reading ~~ look in OP for guide. i just used it, and it definitely creates a dominating character. im not too into the playstyle but w/e. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:17 Brees wrote: elementz is terribad and has a huge ego, its fun to troll him. he gets upset easily. I finally played phreak the other day, he was playing locket udyr (one last hurrah before udyr is useless due to the locket nerf eh?) our kat got fed though so we won Elementz isn't spectacular (I've seen him feed a lot) but when he comes in with a tryhard group of 3-4 it's usually going to be a group that knows what they're doing and has a plan, which is far more than can be said for most people. And if you see Elementz in the upcoming 5-man queue he's PROBABLY going to be tryharding, so if you're a group of 5 level 20 newbies it's not going to be an entertaining game, to say the least. On June 30 2010 01:20 Crucifix wrote: Any good buildup for Cho'Gath? I found this hero really suiting me, builded as a heavy tank with Angel and some armor stuff :D Still a newbie with builds but I'm reading ~~ There's a guide linked in the first post. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:28 Southlight wrote: Elementz isn't spectacular (I've seen him feed a lot) but when he comes in with a tryhard group of 3-4 it's usually going to be a group that knows what they're doing and has a plan, which is far more than can be said for most people. And if you see Elementz in the upcoming 5-man queue he's PROBABLY going to be tryharding, so if you're a group of 5 level 20 newbies it's not going to be an entertaining game, to say the least. There's a guide linked in the first post. yea we have to start getting our tryhard team ready for season 1 clearly if the game stays like this push team is clearly the way to stomp our way to the top atm. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
And finding 5 for ranked-5 is gonna be a bitch o_O | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 30 2010 01:11 Chairman Ray wrote: 2 Questions for the helpful people of TL 1) Is this a good build for Warwick: -cloth + 3 hp pots to start -madred's razor -berserker greaves -malady -madred's bloodrazer -phantom dancer dude there's been so much WW discussion anyways i think that build is terrible after madreds i prefer mercury treads, or boots of mobility. even ninja tabi i prefer over greaves. you're gonna want some extra survivability so that u can kill a hero then get the f away. u don't really need attack speed that's not how you kill heros with WW. you do it with AD so that your ult does way more damage then i either upgrade to bloodrazer or i go for phage so that they can't get away from me at all phantom dancer definitely isn't worth it. beyond bloodrazor and frozen mallet you're gonna want survivability (like guardian's angel, banshees veil). if you want more AD then black cleaver is a great item because it's armor penetration will stack over and over with your ult, where you quickly hit them a bunch. | ||
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