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On May 09 2010 07:35 Kenpachi wrote: Orlando 4-0 Bobcats Orlando 4-0 Hawks Orlando 4-0 Cavaliers Orlando 4-0 Lakers
funniest shit i've heard all year. lakers playing well right now, but we need to clean out our bench during the offseason. shannon brown has a large fanbase in LA, but i personally think he's a scrub. jordan farmar should just quit playing basketball, he's terrible in every aspect of the game. if we want to 3-peat, we need a new bench
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FISHER WAS FUCKING FOULLEDDDDD NOOOOOO WTF
edit: nvm doesnt matter
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PHOENIX GOING TO TAKE THIS YEAR!!!! (hyped up)
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that was such a blatant no call on fisher, too bad jazz didn't capitalize
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Atlanta is fucking insipid.
Ban from the NBA imo.
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Wow... the refs tried so fuckin hard to give Utah that win but LA took it >_>!
phew -.-!
Kobe took some bad shots for a stretch there, well 2 of those 4 in a row he missed were bad, the long jumper and one of his drives was good but the other two were forced I was like "FDSJFSDJKFHDSKJ" especially cuz Gasol was wide open at the elbow on one of them =[
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On May 09 2010 05:50 Rkie wrote: based off of who is left, orlando will take it. This year they have the same team, just with Vince Carter, and So far haven't shown any signs of losing yet.
Orlando's support is much better. They got Matt Barnes for like a million, JJ Redick's improved, and Jameer Nelson's playing better these playoffs. Dwight's offensive repertoire has improved, although his free throw shooting has gotten worse.
There's also Anderson and Brandon Bass, although they're not as much of a factor.
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Self congratulating, but still true. Stevie Wonder could have seen what was coming to the Jazz.
On February 07 2010 22:13 RowdierBob wrote: Pretty standard Jazz mid-season surge.
They'll be sucking again come playoffs time.
Not that I hate them or anything, but they have the same old stale roster that will take them to the first or second round of the playoffs, but ultimately they will be cannon fodder for the better teams like LA or Denver. They're actually probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the West, but tbh I find a team like Oklahoma (or even Memphis) way more exciting and potential filled.
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I only saw the first half of the game and was like wow Derek Fisher got lucky on that 3 point foul call from the refs. Then it's 54-50 and I'm like ok, Utah has got this since the Lakers guards had I think 41 of their 50 points at the time.
Come back and see Utah lose by 1. Oh jeez that must hurt :/
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Lake Show all the way.
Phoenix should be a breeze after Utah. The East Coast looks tough though. Whatever happens though, Lebron must be stopped from getting a ring at all costs. >
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Uh Phoenix is a LOT better than Utah >_>
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They'll still lose to the Lakers though.
At least they might be able to defend home court.
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On May 09 2010 03:51 city42 wrote: [ That's not how it works. Players who are large for their position ALWAYS develop a post game because they will generally be bigger than their defenders, and thus able to shoot over them. In fact, developing a reliable post game and turnaround jumper was what enabled MJ (6'6", extremely strong 2 guard) to continue his dominance well after his physical gifts were gone,
Except that Jordan is actually the perfect example to refute your point. Jordan was always large for his position, yet he only developed a post game when the tendinitis became chronic and he realized that physically he had to be able to get a lot of his points in other ways than dunking. Kobe developed a post game earlier in his career, but that may also be simply because Jordan could do it, and Kobe has always been obsessed with proving he's as good as or better than Jordan.
And please, don't ever use the Washington years and "dominance" in the same paragraph. If his name had been "Bob Smith" instead of "Michael Jordan" he wouldn't have even started on that team. Every young guard in the league was lining up to posterize him, and he got his points from volume shooting. If you want to talk about "hype" and distorted statistics, and players who don't deserve the attention they get, exhibit A would be Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards.
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Phoenix will make a fool out of the lakers
HEARD IT HERE FIRST
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On May 09 2010 23:19 Wintermute wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 03:51 city42 wrote: [ That's not how it works. Players who are large for their position ALWAYS develop a post game because they will generally be bigger than their defenders, and thus able to shoot over them. In fact, developing a reliable post game and turnaround jumper was what enabled MJ (6'6", extremely strong 2 guard) to continue his dominance well after his physical gifts were gone,
Except that Jordan is actually the perfect example to refute your point. Jordan was always large for his position, yet he only developed a post game when the tendinitis became chronic and he realized that physically he had to be able to get a lot of his points in other ways than dunking. Kobe developed a post game earlier in his career, but that may also be simply because Jordan could do it, and Kobe has always been obsessed with proving he's as good as or better than Jordan. And please, don't ever use the Washington years and "dominance" in the same paragraph. If his name had been "Bob Smith" instead of "Michael Jordan" he wouldn't have even started on that team. Every young guard in the league was lining up to posterize him, and he got his points from volume shooting. If you want to talk about "hype" and distorted statistics, and players who don't deserve the attention they get, exhibit A would be Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards. No. No. No. NO.
Jordan was not always large for his position. Strength and bulk are just as important to a post game as height, and he was merely average in the strength department when he started winning scoring titles. It was only after years of getting abused inside by Bill, Rick, and their other friends, that he really began to hit the weight room hard. Jordan realized that in order to preserve his career, he needed to become much stronger physically, and also try to shy away from taking too much punishment inside. It was only after his weight training regimen that he had the strength to start backing down smaller defenders reliably. Coincidentally, the trainer that helped Jordan bulk up is now Kobe Bryant's trainer.
I wrote the "dominance" sentence a bit ambiguously, but for the Washington years I meant it in the context of age. Even with volume shooting, the guy was putting up 23/6/5 as a 39 year old, and then 20/6/4 as a 40 year old. The only player at any position to be comparably effective at that age was Abdul-Jabbar, and he was a center who basically decided to stop actively pursuing rebounds after about age 38. No guard will likely ever duplicate those Washington years at the same age.
edit: Source for the Jordan strength stuff is the personal trainer himself, whom I heard on the Jim Rome radio show about a year ago.
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On May 09 2010 23:32 hyst.eric.al wrote: Phoenix will make a fool out of the lakers
HEARD IT HERE FIRST
2nded.
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On May 10 2010 04:12 Servolisk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 23:32 hyst.eric.al wrote: Phoenix will make a fool out of the lakers
HEARD IT HERE FIRST 2nded. I lol. Never.
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On May 09 2010 22:17 RowdierBob wrote: They'll still lose to the Lakers though.
At least they might be able to defend home court.
Ya I know the Lakers will still win , but the Utah series has been pretty easy thus far. Utah played its best possible game last night and still lost. Their entire body language screams "I dont think we can win against LA" ... they've had no chance from the beginning.
Phoenix does have a lot of confidence, but LA is gonna get revenge for 06 / 07 =D
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Who will guard Kobe and the Gasol/Bynum tandem? The Suns just don't match up well with the Lakers.
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