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On February 15 2013 16:27 Complete wrote:I am too tired or stupid - what exactly do you get with that deal? I currently have the release vanilla civ5 and I've been waiting to find a decent sale to get G&K, can't tell if this is what I want.
If you already have vanilla, do what I did and buy the $20 upgrade from Steam which upgrades your copy to the latest "Gold" edition which includes G&K as well as all DLC released to date. It allows me to play all the latest saves going on @civfanatics for instance whereas plain G&K or even that GOTY linked earlier won't.
Speaking of which I've been getting back into this game lately. Can anyone explain to me why I sometimes get the option to annex/puppet a captured city whereas other times they just integrate seamlessly into my empire ? Is it random chance ? Or is my installation bugged, I just conquered my biggest rival and I only got the annex/puppet option thingy once out of his 8 or so cities that I captured.
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On February 09 2013 07:59 Banishment wrote: What in gods and kings name do i have to do to win on deity. That shit's insane. I played on Pangea with Holland and sold my luxuries to buy 2 settlers. I got 3 City states as allies and things were looking good if it wasnt for this roman cunt..... He had 980 points at a time where i had 289. Remember, I played Holland, had a pretty good start and 3 city states. And he didnt even have a lot of wonders. India built most of them, no biggie cause India is weak. Seriously, hooooow.
Guess i will keep on playing on Immortal, that shit maybe insane but its not BATSHIT CRAZY ROMAN INSANE :/. I just pick Spain on G&K and hope to run into some broken wonders really quick. My latest deity victory I found a pair of great barrier reefs, and stacked up on science from those (was getting like triple the amount of science by turn 50 than I normally do.) I build minimal defenses (relying on terrain and cities mainly), and shoot up the tech tree. Eventually I went for a space victory while defensively nuking to hold off any attackers.. also had most of the city states on my side of the map.
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On February 15 2013 16:27 Complete wrote:I am too tired or stupid - what exactly do you get with that deal? I currently have the release vanilla civ5 and I've been waiting to find a decent sale to get G&K, can't tell if this is what I want.
This gives you vanilla, G&K, and (almost) all the DLCs. The only DLCs this lacks are some mappacks, which are probably not that important anyway.
On February 15 2013 17:37 kottbullar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 16:27 Complete wrote:I am too tired or stupid - what exactly do you get with that deal? I currently have the release vanilla civ5 and I've been waiting to find a decent sale to get G&K, can't tell if this is what I want. If you already have vanilla, do what I did and buy the $20 upgrade from Steam which upgrades your copy to the latest "Gold" edition which includes G&K as well as all DLC released to date. It allows me to play all the latest saves going on @civfanatics for instance whereas plain G&K or even that GOTY linked earlier won't. Speaking of which I've been getting back into this game lately. Can anyone explain to me why I sometimes get the option to annex/puppet a captured city whereas other times they just integrate seamlessly into my empire ? Is it random chance ? Or is my installation bugged, I just conquered my biggest rival and I only got the annex/puppet option thingy once out of his 8 or so cities that I captured.
You might have some sort of options ticked on. It is definitely NOT chance.
Usually, for any city that is NOT an original capital or city state, you have the option to annex, puppet, or raze. If in addition the previous owner of the city was not the original owner of the city, you can also choose to liberate.
If the city is an original capital or city state, you do not have the raze option.
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I think it's a bug. Sometimes I don't get the option to puppet/annex/raze. Then, if I reload, I get it the option again. At the same time, conquered cities don't count against the happy cap until you reload. So yeah, definitely not working as intended.
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On February 15 2013 17:37 kottbullar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 16:27 Complete wrote:I am too tired or stupid - what exactly do you get with that deal? I currently have the release vanilla civ5 and I've been waiting to find a decent sale to get G&K, can't tell if this is what I want. If you already have vanilla, do what I did and buy the $20 upgrade from Steam which upgrades your copy to the latest "Gold" edition which includes G&K as well as all DLC released to date. It allows me to play all the latest saves going on @civfanatics for instance whereas plain G&K or even that GOTY linked earlier won't. Speaking of which I've been getting back into this game lately. Can anyone explain to me why I sometimes get the option to annex/puppet a captured city whereas other times they just integrate seamlessly into my empire ? Is it random chance ? Or is my installation bugged, I just conquered my biggest rival and I only got the annex/puppet option thingy once out of his 8 or so cities that I captured.
http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-CIV5GKEP/sid-meiers-civilization-v-gods-and-kings-expansion-pack
Does that give me all of the things you're talking about? I guess I'm just not very aware of all the available 'extras' you can get with civ5.
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That's only G&Ks.
G&Ks gives you 9 extra civs and a whole bunch of new mechanics. That gold addition gives you G&K, as well as some other civs (Korea, Inca, Babylon, etc.) not in G&Ks.
I only have vanilla + G&K. If you don't like to spend 5 more dollars, I think you should just get G&K.
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The upgrade is $20 for G&K + all of the previous DLC that they released. I guess it depends if you think all the DLC are worth the extra $12.50 or not. The Gamersgate one doesn't have all the DLCs included in their bundle.
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On February 15 2013 15:26 Sufficiency wrote: Why are you building Greater Mosque of Djenne when you don't have a religion yet? LOL.
Well I just won a war so I like to build up my infrastructure after that. I'm building it for the faith culture and great engineer points. Or maybe you could say I'm "wonderstruck"
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On February 16 2013 08:51 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 15:26 Sufficiency wrote: Why are you building Greater Mosque of Djenne when you don't have a religion yet? LOL. Well I just won a war so I like to build up my infrastructure after that. I'm building it for the faith culture and great engineer points. Or maybe you could say I'm "wonderstruck"
I feel that it's not worth the effort. I rather build a garden.
EDIT: Actually Great Mosque of Djenne also gives 1 Engineer point. Unless you really want the engineer, it just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Build a garden, or if you *really* think your religion will come out, build some units now and build a Grand Temple after you found your religion.
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On February 14 2013 04:24 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2013 12:40 Sufficiency wrote:Shameless Bump. I just played this fantastically fun game as Ethiopia with Honor + Autocracy and won with domination victory. I made it into a LP in case you are bored  Haile Selassie the Terrible - http://imgur.com/a/cjgJs (also included: a bug in the game!) I originally wanted to do Gandhi the Terrible - but it was proven to me too hard for me to do on Immortal. Man, what a slog of a game. That's a long way to go for domination. In my current game, everyone except for the Incans and me warred constantly. Unfortunately, I was stuck in a corner and had room for only 4 good cities (I don't like building garbage cities unless to get access to resources due to happy cap problems). The damned Incans, on the other hand, had tons of room and settled like 1/3 or more of the continent (pangaea). Fortunately, my four core cities are really awesome (particularly the capital -- salt starts are OP) and I was able to leap out to a large lead early and conquer my Russian and Spanish neighbors to stay ahead of the massive Incan empire. I'm just happily teching to bombers and tanks, and sitting on a war chest of like 13000 gold. Oh, I also have Big Ben, and the gold buy bonuses in the commerce and autocracy trees, which let me buy units with a 73% combined discount. Yeah, I'm gonna insta-build a really big army soon. I finally played this one out. I got my tanks and bombers at Turn 250 (roughly 10 tanks, 17 bombers, and 7 fighters; at first, then I built another 10 tanks just to speed things along). By turn 263, I had marched across the rest of the pangaea, taking about 16 cities, including the capitals of the Incans, French, Swedish, and Celts, and an occupied London, and won the game via domination. I also had a fairly large Navy of about 10 battleships and 5 destroyers which I used as a liberation force to save my conquered CS allies. I think I was using roughly 50-55 oil by the end of the game. Most everyone else was fielding renaissance and industrial era armies against my atomic age forces. The Incans had a lot of modern era troops and were about on par with me techwise until I created a huge gap by burning 5-6 great scientists once I researched flight to get radar and combined arms within a few turns.
Bomber/tank warfare is the only way to go.
Edit: I also could have doubled my force without even trying. I had 6 production cities with military academies that could have cranked out a tank every 2-3 turns each, as well as another 7000 gold or so for rush buying. Instead I had these cities building random buildings and wonders.
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If someone buys this can they play MultiPlayer with those of us that bought it on steam?
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So.... on this map I am playing I am 6 tiles away from the Fountain of Youth... expanded there, +10 happiness npnp. Time to sell ALL my luxuries.
On February 17 2013 14:52 CuLane wrote:If someone buys this can they play MultiPlayer with those of us that bought it on steam?
I have no idea. Then again, is multiplayer even linked to Steam?
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FoY and El Dorado are really broken wonders, I wish there was a way to turn them off. I once got FoY as Spain.... needless to say, that game wasn't really a problem
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On February 17 2013 15:02 Sufficiency wrote:So.... on this map I am playing I am 6 tiles away from the Fountain of Youth... expanded there, +10 happiness npnp. Time to sell ALL my luxuries. Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 14:52 CuLane wrote:If someone buys this can they play MultiPlayer with those of us that bought it on steam? I have no idea. Then again, is multiplayer even linked to Steam?
Doesn't matter how you bought the game as long as you have it.
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On February 17 2013 15:02 Sufficiency wrote:So.... on this map I am playing I am 6 tiles away from the Fountain of Youth... expanded there, +10 happiness npnp. Time to sell ALL my luxuries. Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 14:52 CuLane wrote:If someone buys this can they play MultiPlayer with those of us that bought it on steam? I have no idea. Then again, is multiplayer even linked to Steam?
I just bought the game through Gamer's Gate (AMAZING DEAL!), and its telling me I have to download through steam. So I guess that implies that the game is played on Steam including the multiplayer.
Excited!!
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On February 17 2013 03:02 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 04:24 xDaunt wrote:On February 13 2013 12:40 Sufficiency wrote:Shameless Bump. I just played this fantastically fun game as Ethiopia with Honor + Autocracy and won with domination victory. I made it into a LP in case you are bored  Haile Selassie the Terrible - http://imgur.com/a/cjgJs (also included: a bug in the game!) I originally wanted to do Gandhi the Terrible - but it was proven to me too hard for me to do on Immortal. Man, what a slog of a game. That's a long way to go for domination. In my current game, everyone except for the Incans and me warred constantly. Unfortunately, I was stuck in a corner and had room for only 4 good cities (I don't like building garbage cities unless to get access to resources due to happy cap problems). The damned Incans, on the other hand, had tons of room and settled like 1/3 or more of the continent (pangaea). Fortunately, my four core cities are really awesome (particularly the capital -- salt starts are OP) and I was able to leap out to a large lead early and conquer my Russian and Spanish neighbors to stay ahead of the massive Incan empire. I'm just happily teching to bombers and tanks, and sitting on a war chest of like 13000 gold. Oh, I also have Big Ben, and the gold buy bonuses in the commerce and autocracy trees, which let me buy units with a 73% combined discount. Yeah, I'm gonna insta-build a really big army soon. I finally played this one out. I got my tanks and bombers at Turn 250 (roughly 10 tanks, 17 bombers, and 7 fighters; at first, then I built another 10 tanks just to speed things along). By turn 263, I had marched across the rest of the pangaea, taking about 16 cities, including the capitals of the Incans, French, Swedish, and Celts, and an occupied London, and won the game via domination. I also had a fairly large Navy of about 10 battleships and 5 destroyers which I used as a liberation force to save my conquered CS allies. I think I was using roughly 50-55 oil by the end of the game. Most everyone else was fielding renaissance and industrial era armies against my atomic age forces. The Incans had a lot of modern era troops and were about on par with me techwise until I created a huge gap by burning 5-6 great scientists once I researched flight to get radar and combined arms within a few turns. Bomber/tank warfare is the only way to go. Edit: I also could have doubled my force without even trying. I had 6 production cities with military academies that could have cranked out a tank every 2-3 turns each, as well as another 7000 gold or so for rush buying. Instead I had these cities building random buildings and wonders. What game length is that on?
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El Dorado is also known as Skilldorado, because of how much skill it gives you for that one game.
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On February 18 2013 06:09 radscorpion9 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 15:02 Sufficiency wrote:So.... on this map I am playing I am 6 tiles away from the Fountain of Youth... expanded there, +10 happiness npnp. Time to sell ALL my luxuries. On February 17 2013 14:52 CuLane wrote:If someone buys this can they play MultiPlayer with those of us that bought it on steam? I have no idea. Then again, is multiplayer even linked to Steam? I just bought the game through Gamer's Gate (AMAZING DEAL!), and its telling me I have to download through steam. So I guess that implies that the game is played on Steam including the multiplayer. Excited!! 
If you buy the physical copy, you can play with people who use Steam. Gamers Gate may have something worked out with Steam, but that's not relevant for multiplayer.
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On February 18 2013 07:00 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 03:02 xDaunt wrote:On February 14 2013 04:24 xDaunt wrote:On February 13 2013 12:40 Sufficiency wrote:Shameless Bump. I just played this fantastically fun game as Ethiopia with Honor + Autocracy and won with domination victory. I made it into a LP in case you are bored  Haile Selassie the Terrible - http://imgur.com/a/cjgJs (also included: a bug in the game!) I originally wanted to do Gandhi the Terrible - but it was proven to me too hard for me to do on Immortal. Man, what a slog of a game. That's a long way to go for domination. In my current game, everyone except for the Incans and me warred constantly. Unfortunately, I was stuck in a corner and had room for only 4 good cities (I don't like building garbage cities unless to get access to resources due to happy cap problems). The damned Incans, on the other hand, had tons of room and settled like 1/3 or more of the continent (pangaea). Fortunately, my four core cities are really awesome (particularly the capital -- salt starts are OP) and I was able to leap out to a large lead early and conquer my Russian and Spanish neighbors to stay ahead of the massive Incan empire. I'm just happily teching to bombers and tanks, and sitting on a war chest of like 13000 gold. Oh, I also have Big Ben, and the gold buy bonuses in the commerce and autocracy trees, which let me buy units with a 73% combined discount. Yeah, I'm gonna insta-build a really big army soon. I finally played this one out. I got my tanks and bombers at Turn 250 (roughly 10 tanks, 17 bombers, and 7 fighters; at first, then I built another 10 tanks just to speed things along). By turn 263, I had marched across the rest of the pangaea, taking about 16 cities, including the capitals of the Incans, French, Swedish, and Celts, and an occupied London, and won the game via domination. I also had a fairly large Navy of about 10 battleships and 5 destroyers which I used as a liberation force to save my conquered CS allies. I think I was using roughly 50-55 oil by the end of the game. Most everyone else was fielding renaissance and industrial era armies against my atomic age forces. The Incans had a lot of modern era troops and were about on par with me techwise until I created a huge gap by burning 5-6 great scientists once I researched flight to get radar and combined arms within a few turns. Bomber/tank warfare is the only way to go. Edit: I also could have doubled my force without even trying. I had 6 production cities with military academies that could have cranked out a tank every 2-3 turns each, as well as another 7000 gold or so for rush buying. Instead I had these cities building random buildings and wonders. What game length is that on?
Normal game length / immortal difficulty.
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On February 18 2013 07:07 Scip wrote: El Dorado is also known as Skilldorado, because of how much skill it gives you for that one game.
But only if you see it first.
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