Dice as we know them brought us Battlefield 1942 and 3 series, Battlefield 2 series and Bad Company. Also a Battlefield 2142 game.
Bad Company two is a passion project for the PC people, with improved gameplay, the new improvements on frostbite and it's just awesome from the looks of it.
I'm sure Dice will pull this one of just as well they did with the first game in the series of Battlefield and Battlefield 2.
So with the flaming over Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 with no Dedicated servers, and matchmaking a la console for PC. Check this game out! What do you think?
Never played a battlefield game, after the failure that is MW2 PC, I've been checking it out. Have to say it looks fantastic. I'm pretty excited for it, hopefully the beta will be easy to get into.
Anyone else playing the beta right now? I find it really really fun.
This game probably has the best sniping (or at least my favorite) of any FPS I've played. I love how you have to unzoom after each shot and how tiny the field of view is when aiming down the sight.
I never played bad company 1 so I don't know what the classes were like in that, but I'm not so sure how much I like the classes in this compared to 2142.
in both you have 4 classes and just about all of them are mixtures of different classes from BF2: in 2142 the medic and assault were combined, spec ops and sniper combined, and engineer/antitank combined (other class being heavy machine gun). The big difference between BC2 and 2142 is that now assault is pretty much just like the assault class from BF2 (although now with each gun having grenade launchers right from the get-go), the scout class is now just sniper with C4, and the medic was combined with the heavy MG guy.
My favorite class in 2142 was the scout because I loved to have a decent assault rifle and be able to tackle any situation with cloak and C4. Now if I want C4 I have to be a sniper and it just seems pretty counter-intuitive to be one of 2 classes that can kill tanks (the other being engineers with RPGs), but your role is supposed to be staying out of the battle and taking shots from afar. Tanks are usually very far away from snipers lol.
overall though this game is awesome. I love how the assault class is so much more fun than it has ever been before because now grenades can blow up walls and such, it makes the class so much more dynamic than it was before.
The game plays like a much more infantry-focused BF2 since there are so many fewer players in the server (hopefully when the game comes out PC servers will be able to exceed this). There are no pilotable helicopters or tanks, but there are UAV copters that are controlled via remote control (these are the only air units in the game). It so very rarely feels as hectic or as big as BF2 or 2142 ever did, but it's still really fun.
Minimum Frostbite PC Specifications for BFBC2 & BF1943 Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz Main memory: 2GB Graphics card: GeForce 7800 GT / ATI X1900 Graphics memory: 256MB OS: Windows XP Free HDD space: 15GB for Digital Version, 10GB for Disc Version (BFBC2) 10GB for Digital Version, 4GB for Disc Version (BF1943)
Recommended Frostbite PC Specifications for BFBC2 & BF1943 Processor: Quadcore Main memory: 2GB Graphics card: GeForce GTX 260 Graphics memory: 512MB OS: Windows Vista or Windows 7 Free HDD space: 15GB for Digital Version, 10GB for Disc Version (BFBC2) 10GB for Digital Version, 4GB for Disc Version (BF1943)
Hopefully they learned to improve their shit, because for the whole freakin' series I've hated all the weapons because they were so useless. Especially the Sniper, couldn't hit shit with it, even short range. Weapons are extremely unrealistic in my opinion compared to Call of Duty MW2. The only reason why I ever played Battlefields were for the Planes and Helicopters which were the only good portions of it. Going to give it a try since MW2 failed a couple of my expectations.
On January 27 2010 02:19 Ym1r wrote: Hopefully they learned to improve their shit, because for the whole freakin' series I've hated all the weapons because they were so useless. Especially the Sniper, couldn't hit shit with it, even short range. Weapons are extremely unrealistic in my opinion compared to Call of Duty MW2. The only reason why I ever played Battlefields were for the Planes and Helicopters which were the only good portions of it. Going to give it a try since MW2 failed a couple of my expectations.
This looks awesome , it looks like a remake of Bf2 with the frostbite engine I mean look at it , theres the medic ( a thing that was missed in the BC game) And I've gotta be completely honest , I didn't really like 2142 and I hated battlefield BC but this looks awesome and Bf2 is my second favorite game of all times , when I saw theyre releasing it for PC ...I came
On January 27 2010 02:19 Ym1r wrote: Hopefully they learned to improve their shit, because for the whole freakin' series I've hated all the weapons because they were so useless. Especially the Sniper, couldn't hit shit with it, even short range. Weapons are extremely unrealistic in my opinion compared to Call of Duty MW2. The only reason why I ever played Battlefields were for the Planes and Helicopters which were the only good portions of it. Going to give it a try since MW2 failed a couple of my expectations.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is more realistic than the past Battlefield games. I dunno about the sniper rifle since in Battlefield 2, it had a pretty realistic feel to it. CoD: MW2's guns are not that realistic lol...
On January 27 2010 02:19 Ym1r wrote: Hopefully they learned to improve their shit, because for the whole freakin' series I've hated all the weapons because they were so useless. Especially the Sniper, couldn't hit shit with it, even short range. Weapons are extremely unrealistic in my opinion compared to Call of Duty MW2. The only reason why I ever played Battlefields were for the Planes and Helicopters which were the only good portions of it. Going to give it a try since MW2 failed a couple of my expectations.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is more realistic than the past Battlefield games. I dunno about the sniper rifle since in Battlefield 2, it had a pretty realistic feel to it. CoD: MW2's guns are not that realistic lol...
As opposed to previous Battlefield games, MW2 has more realistic guns. Not saying that it's totally realistic, just a comparison imo.
If you bought the game on steam: you will see the bfbc icon on the not installed list. If you bought the game on gamestop or EA store: they'll email you the link to download the bfbc2 client.
On January 29 2010 07:16 Tekin wrote: Meh what a disappointment they took out prone but I can understand its still BETA. Hope once the official release they add on prone.
Maybe they took it out to stop dolphin divers :D And I didnt expect beta to have problems in the menu, more of all the ingame exploits that BF series is notorious for.
I finally got it all DLed and installed. I made my account and put in my beta key and I was in. I went to server browser and it crashed. I load it back up and log-in, but it asks me for my beta-key again. I put it in and it says that the key is already in use. I dunno what to do. lol
On January 29 2010 07:37 Ideas wrote: I finally got it all DLed and installed. I made my account and put in my beta key and I was in. I went to server browser and it crashed. I load it back up and log-in, but it asks me for my beta-key again. I put it in and it says that the key is already in use. I dunno what to do. lol
Its the server side lag issue. Gotta wait for them to fix it.
On January 29 2010 07:37 Ideas wrote: I finally got it all DLed and installed. I made my account and put in my beta key and I was in. I went to server browser and it crashed. I load it back up and log-in, but it asks me for my beta-key again. I put it in and it says that the key is already in use. I dunno what to do. lol
On January 29 2010 07:37 Ideas wrote: I finally got it all DLed and installed. I made my account and put in my beta key and I was in. I went to server browser and it crashed. I load it back up and log-in, but it asks me for my beta-key again. I put it in and it says that the key is already in use. I dunno what to do. lol
put the key without the -
same thing happened :\
hopefully it will be fixed by tomorrow so I can play it over the weekend.
On January 27 2010 02:19 Ym1r wrote: Hopefully they learned to improve their shit, because for the whole freakin' series I've hated all the weapons because they were so useless. Especially the Sniper, couldn't hit shit with it, even short range. Weapons are extremely unrealistic in my opinion compared to Call of Duty MW2. The only reason why I ever played Battlefields were for the Planes and Helicopters which were the only good portions of it. Going to give it a try since MW2 failed a couple of my expectations.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is more realistic than the past Battlefield games. I dunno about the sniper rifle since in Battlefield 2, it had a pretty realistic feel to it. CoD: MW2's guns are not that realistic lol...
As opposed to previous Battlefield games, MW2 has more realistic guns. Not saying that it's totally realistic, just a comparison imo.
I have and still play BF2.. one of the best and realistic games I have ever played. It still is amazing to play, especially on lower end computers. Awaiting the release of BFBC2. Amazing Gameplay.
Tried the demo of BF2142, didn't like it.
Haven't tried BF1942 or 43, would anyone recommend those? Battlefield Heroes was entertaining to say the least.
I've played every BF game except BF1943 and 2142 but I just never got into them. I can't fault anything about the game itself, just doesn't stick with me.
Just wanna know if Bad Company 2 is gonna change that, like is it awesome enough ;o?
On January 29 2010 10:09 Gigaudas wrote: I've loved all of the Battlefield games (except BF2142 - haven't tried Bad Company 1) and I'm sooo looking forward to this.
I haven't seen any aircraft in any video. Are there planes?
The beta only offers a chopper and tanks. i don't think theres gonna be a planes yet.
I just played it on live. It's a fun game. There is no depth to it at all in pub games and I'm not a huge fan of the gametype the demo is. If there is the flag game type from BF2:MC I'll be buying it
I just played this demo for couple hours straight on the xbox 360. The graphics is alright not really that great on my 46 inch hdtv you can tell its unscaled. The classes changed quite a bit compared to modern combat, engies don't have mines, snipers now have mines but lost the radar and laser lock on air strike etc. Decent demo.
On January 30 2010 11:03 Shivaz wrote: I just played this demo for couple hours straight on the xbox 360. The graphics is alright not really that great on my 46 inch hdtv you can tell its unscaled. The classes changed quite a bit compared to modern combat, engies don't have mines, snipers now have mines but lost the radar and laser lock on air strike etc. Decent demo.
The classes have indeed changed, but engies do get anti-vehicle mines (unlock). However, they replace the RPG so it might not be the best idea.
On January 30 2010 11:38 ShadowDrgn wrote: Are there still any ways to get into the PC beta? I heard they weren't giving out new keys to preorders anymore.
I dunno but from the looks of it it's not worth getting into the beta until next week at least lol. Does steam say anything about it still?
I found out that everyone who preordered from eastore (like myself) got a busted beta-key. apperently you can get a new one from custoumer service live chat, but a) I heard they closed it down because too many people were on it and b) I dont even know where to find it in the 1st place lol
Just got done playing it, weapons are shitty once again, it'll probably not get updated from the beta seeing as EA never fucking updates anything, iron sights are also, shitty. Only fun part of the game was vehicles.
On January 30 2010 13:09 Ym1r wrote: Just got done playing it, weapons are shitty once again, it'll probably not get updated from the beta seeing as EA never fucking updates anything, iron sights are also, shitty. Only fun part of the game was vehicles.
the game has terrible netcode/hit detection even by Battlefield standards. It's really kind of amazing how bad Dice are when it comes to netcode.
There's honestly no difference between playing on a 30 ping chicago server or a server in france, there's like an entire second delay before things get hit after you hit them. Just knife a fence and you'll see it break away moments later. Hence why all the double kills occur, each person kills the other on the screen and theres so few updates from the server that you just both die.
The lag makes me feel like I am playing one of those korean fps "mmo" type games, not a real FPS. It would be fun were it not for that. Sadly not a single BF game has had good netcode
On January 30 2010 13:35 floor exercise wrote: the game has terrible netcode/hit detection even by Battlefield standards. It's really kind of amazing how bad Dice are when it comes to netcode.
There's honestly no difference between playing on a 30 ping chicago server or a server in france, there's like an entire second delay before things get hit after you hit them. Just knife a fence and you'll see it break away moments later. Hence why all the double kills occur, each person kills the other on the screen and theres so few updates from the server that you just both die.
The lag makes me feel like I am playing one of those korean fps "mmo" type games, not a real FPS. It would be fun were it not for that. Sadly not a single BF game has had good netcode
Have you seen that big BETA sign top right of screen....yeah
This game is shitty on PC it is so obviously meant for consoles. I wish they hadn't ported it to PC just a rip-off hope the sales aren't high on the PC so they realize they can't try and sell us such shitty games. So many things that are standard in PC fps games that they do not have. So glad I was able to refund my game on Steam. Guess the game is ok if you are a console player but even then...
People complaining about weapons (snipers) not being deadly enough in BF games clearly don't understand game design. The reason that weapons can be so accurate and damaging in games like CS and MW is that they are both traditional map FPS's, where objectives are pursued in smaller and indoor maps with limited numbers of players. If snipers were equivalently dangerous in a game like BF2, on enormous outdoor maps with many players and very long lines of sight, the game would quickly devolve into a campfest of 64 snipers crawling around in ghillysuits spawncamping each other. Not fun at all. The reason it is much more difficult to aim at range and bodyshots don't kill in one hit in BF games is simply to balance game out and allow different classes and play styles.
MW guns WOULD NOT FUNCTION in BF, it would DESTROY THE GAME.
And I know sniping is perfectly viable in BF2, I played the hell out of that game, probably 50%Antitank/50%Sniper. Worked fine for me, I won games all the time.
sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
On January 30 2010 17:32 Tekin wrote: sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
It's called leading the target. Speaking of which, does anyone in the beta know if bullet drop is in the game? I know it was in BF2, and I've never played the first Bad Company, so I'm kinda curious.
On January 30 2010 17:34 Hurricane wrote: I really really really really really hope you can still c4 cars and bail while they keep hauling ass. I also hope you can put c4 on any class.
On January 30 2010 17:32 Tekin wrote: sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
It's called leading the target. Speaking of which, does anyone in the beta know if bullet drop is in the game? I know it was in BF2, and I've never played the first Bad Company, so I'm kinda curious.
On January 30 2010 17:34 Hurricane wrote: I really really really really really hope you can still c4 cars and bail while they keep hauling ass. I also hope you can put c4 on any class.
God I loved BF:MC
Kamikaze cars made life in BF2 terrible.
Yes solider class can drop 1 bullet pack to resupply 2 squads before it disappears same as medic.
On January 30 2010 17:32 Tekin wrote: sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
It's called leading the target. Speaking of which, does anyone in the beta know if bullet drop is in the game? I know it was in BF2, and I've never played the first Bad Company, so I'm kinda curious.
On January 30 2010 17:34 Hurricane wrote: I really really really really really hope you can still c4 cars and bail while they keep hauling ass. I also hope you can put c4 on any class.
God I loved BF:MC
Kamikaze cars made life in BF2 terrible.
Yes solider class can drop 1 bullet pack to resupply 2 squads before it disappears same as medic.
I think he was asking if bullets drop over long distances, and to answer his question yes.
On January 30 2010 17:32 Tekin wrote: sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
It's called leading the target. Speaking of which, does anyone in the beta know if bullet drop is in the game? I know it was in BF2, and I've never played the first Bad Company, so I'm kinda curious.
On January 30 2010 17:34 Hurricane wrote: I really really really really really hope you can still c4 cars and bail while they keep hauling ass. I also hope you can put c4 on any class.
God I loved BF:MC
Kamikaze cars made life in BF2 terrible.
Yes solider class can drop 1 bullet pack to resupply 2 squads before it disappears same as medic.
I think he was asking if bullets drop over long distances, and to answer his question yes.
ah thanks for clearing which one his talking about. This game is getting addicting.Im already rank 11 and i think thats max level for the beta. Almost unlock all the stuff from guns to tank addon for beta.
On January 30 2010 17:32 Tekin wrote: sinping is fun once you get mortar LOL bomb the hell out of that building full of sinpers . Sinping is a lot harder in bf cause the bullet doesn't go straight like in mw2 or CS, for a headshot you have to aim beyond his head in order to get that the headshot that you want and for moving objects you just have to aim at a location of his movement like....pre aim where his heading or moving(Wish I could give a description)
Why do you keep saying sinping? or sinpers?
Anyway, I'm looking really forward to this game, I just have to preorder it soon x.x
ok im in queue right now with the ea chat line so hopefully I'll get my beta key from this (apperently thats the best way to do so). Hopefully I'll find out how much worse the pc version is than the ps3 version by the end of the night!
If any1 who has played bf2 (and thinks that ,that game is the best game in the series) has the BETA for computer . would you please PM me your thoughts :p
On February 01 2010 10:01 Disregard wrote: The C4 rushes on objectives are terrible, they should really fix that.
It's kind of funny loading 6 C4 charges onto the UAV helicopter thing and flying it into the objective and detonating it, or suiciding with a quad laced with C4 but yes it kind of ruins the game when those are easier and quicker than doing things the right way.
But then again, if it wasn't for that sort of stuff defending seems way too easy. Most of my teams won't even get to the second set of objectives if I don't C4 rush.
They need to lower the amount of C4 people can get or increase the damage that the objectives can take, but then they need to fix the map a bit because it's really not balanced, the 2nd part in particular is just way too easy to defend
On February 01 2010 10:01 Disregard wrote: The C4 rushes on objectives are terrible, they should really fix that.
It's kind of funny loading 6 C4 charges onto the UAV helicopter thing and flying it into the objective and detonating it, or suiciding with a quad laced with C4 but yes it kind of ruins the game when those are easier and quicker than doing things the right way.
But then again, if it wasn't for that sort of stuff defending seems way too easy. Most of my teams won't even get to the second set of objectives if I don't C4 rush.
They need to lower the amount of C4 people can get or increase the damage that the objectives can take, but then they need to fix the map a bit because it's really not balanced, the 2nd part in particular is just way too easy to defend
That reminds me the people that keep rushing with C4 are so gay! 3 C4 can destroy the objective.
On February 28 2010 20:14 GTR wrote: such a shame the game requires a beast of a computer to play at a steady framerate =[
Really? There are some people who are playing the game atm, because some stores broke the street date and they say that the optimization is much better than the beta and that the performance is actually relative to your hardware and not all over the place.
I decided to buy this. First PC game I bought since cod4 Gamersgate.com has it for $41
You really don't need a beast PC as long as you turn off some of the post processing shit
Once I turned off HSAO and used dx9 mode I could run everything on high at 1920*1200 on my x3 720/4870/4gb which was like a $700 computer over 6 months ago (sc2 beta computer lolol)
going to try to get this asap probably get it by end of this week depends if got time. Also anyone going to play this on ps3? Maybe we can play together
On March 02 2010 11:21 Highways wrote: Can't wait for this game, so sick of Modern Warfare 2.
I prefer really massive maps and working in small squads.
Same here since each squad can have a role (if all the players cooperate) in what to do. Whether a tank squad can put down suppressing fire on the bomb site while 2 squads go in for the flank on the side. So many possibilities with this game.
Tried the demo on xbox 360. The game seemed pretty fun and has a very different feel from MW2. My initial impressions were that movement controls are quite clunky and when you try to sprint on a diagonal, the game won't let you and thus forces you to sprint, stop, face the direction you want to sprint to next, and sprint again. Extremely annoying, has anyone else noticed this?
Overall though, the game has a very arcadey feel to it and I think, lacks the high degree of realism that they intended to achieve.
I dunno about that, I think BC2 is highly more realistic than shooters today. I don't mind the "clunky" feel since it shows how a soldier would normally run with all the gear equipped unlike MW2 where it feels like you're floating.
Buying this just to spite Activision after their clusterfkup of MW2 for the PC lol. And yeah the game has leaked out after stores broke street date, it's all over the internet at various places too.
On March 02 2010 14:44 bdams19 wrote: I might be the only person to enjoy mw2... although the idea of waiting to spawn sounds sweet
I like MW2 as well, but at times, it can be frustrating with campers or GL players. I mean, it's easy to kill campers since they usually stay in the same spot, but there are times that it gets ridiculous. Waiting to spawn? They have that in MW2... just stop playing deathmatch or domination mode.
Just got this game. Having problem with the shitty punkbuster after I accidently "disagreed" to install pb at the setup. I gave up after 2 hours of troubleshooting, now reinstalling.
On March 02 2010 16:21 ffswowsucks wrote: I played the single player of BC2 and didnt like it, AT ALL.
I saw the first couple of missions for the single player and it was what I expected. Battlefield games has always been multiplayer driven. From watching the single player videos, it doesn't look too bad.
On March 02 2010 12:38 zoLo wrote: I dunno about that, I think BC2 is highly more realistic than shooters today. I don't mind the "clunky" feel since it shows how a soldier would normally run with all the gear equipped unlike MW2 where it feels like you're floating.
you should play americas army if you want "realistic" shooters. never been a fan of battlefield games at all myself, lot of abuse and queer shit that happens in them
On March 02 2010 12:38 zoLo wrote: I dunno about that, I think BC2 is highly more realistic than shooters today. I don't mind the "clunky" feel since it shows how a soldier would normally run with all the gear equipped unlike MW2 where it feels like you're floating.
you should play americas army if you want "realistic" shooters. never been a fan of battlefield games at all myself, lot of abuse and queer shit that happens in them
I've played AA and didn't like it too much because I lag a lot in that game for some reason. lol, if you want abuse then CS 1.6 is perfect with all the exploits and cheaters.
I got it yesterday actually, played 1 map of multiplayer no problem, then after wards had some freezing problems in MP, had to reset console manually twice got frustrated and played SP for couple hours. Will try MP again later today to see if any more problem.
I liek Battle Field Bad Company 2. It is really fun so far. I am excited to get the new maps. I think that battlefield is a lot easier to deal with the campers if you have to. Just get in a tank and shoot the building their in. Also you can destroy the ground. The ground is destructible.
in-game i havent had any crashes yet, but the server browser fucking sucks (classic DICE lol) and it takes a really long time to connect to a server.
i hate how 90+% of the servers are just conquest mode. personally I think rush is a more fun mode (probably just becuase ive played SO much conquest in the past and the maps seemed more designed for rush).
On March 04 2010 05:41 Shivaz wrote: I got it yesterday actually, played 1 map of multiplayer no problem, then after wards had some freezing problems in MP, had to reset console manually twice got frustrated and played SP for couple hours. Will try MP again later today to see if any more problem.
Played again this time got to play about 3 hours before it froze again. Been playing engineer, fun game when its working. Also the maps are great
I am worried about the freezing though, if this keeps happening I am not sure how to deal with it cause it cant be good for my ps3...
On March 04 2010 05:41 Shivaz wrote: I got it yesterday actually, played 1 map of multiplayer no problem, then after wards had some freezing problems in MP, had to reset console manually twice got frustrated and played SP for couple hours. Will try MP again later today to see if any more problem.
Played again this time got to play about 3 hours before it froze again. Been playing engineer, fun game when its working. Also the maps are great
I am worried about the freezing though, if this keeps happening I am not sure how to deal with it cause it cant be good for my ps3...
Why does it keep freezing, I've played all of single player and 3-4 maps of multi all day (left ps3 on while I did things) and it hasn't had a hiccup.
just played single player, and while not expecting anything from a Battlefield game, LOVED it.
I had wayyy more fun than I did with MW2 SP, just because I had actual freedom to decide how I wanted to approach a battle, as opposed to MW2's scripted fucking everything, you-are-on-rails-for-all-intents-and-purposes BS. (not that I hated MW2).
I LOLd fucking hard at their snipe at the COD franchise after the snow mission (did you guys notice that?)
This great experience with SP and the fact that I loved BF2 more than life itself may actually drive me to BUY this game. I had that much fun.
On March 04 2010 05:41 Shivaz wrote: I got it yesterday actually, played 1 map of multiplayer no problem, then after wards had some freezing problems in MP, had to reset console manually twice got frustrated and played SP for couple hours. Will try MP again later today to see if any more problem.
Played again this time got to play about 3 hours before it froze again. Been playing engineer, fun game when its working. Also the maps are great
I am worried about the freezing though, if this keeps happening I am not sure how to deal with it cause it cant be good for my ps3...
Why does it keep freezing, I've played all of single player and 3-4 maps of multi all day (left ps3 on while I did things) and it hasn't had a hiccup.
Not sure, I read some other people have similar problems too. I am pretty sure its not my ps3 because I only got it last week. Overall there is just lots of bugs online right now, store not working, disconnected while in a match, losing xp for no reason, and for me and some other freezing...
Shooting down a Black Hawk with an RPG is very satisfying. So dramatic, even managed to clip the tail of one with an RPG. Some of the maps are poorly designed though, too easy to abuse.
On March 07 2010 21:49 Disregard wrote: Shooting down a Black Hawk with an RPG is very satisfying. So dramatic, even managed to clip the tail of one with an RPG. Some of the maps are poorly designed though, too easy to abuse.
couldn't agree more. Since I had nothing to do this weekend I went all NERD out and played all day! finally gotten lvl 20. If you guys wanna play just add me.
Cant speak about optimization because it never ran poorly for me.
Hit detection is better, in the beta if you didn't burst it seemed like the game just ignored your shots after your first but clicking your mouse fast would make your shots register. In retail you can burst a lot more effectively. There's still that bit of lag before the shots register though.
The server browser is even worse, takes forever to get results. And it's 50/50 I don't get some error when trying to connect to servers or log into the ea server because it's just all really unreliable and shitty atm
Hit detection is better, in the beta if you didn't burst it seemed like the game just ignored your shots after your first but clicking your mouse fast would make your shots register. In retail you can burst a lot more effectively.
agree. I was actually surprised I was able to get some kills shooting from the hip. in beta, shooting from the hip was more of a crap shoot if you would hit anything at all.
There's still that bit of lag before the shots register though.
also agree with this. you'll notice this most when someone charges at you and gets a knife kill while you were pouring shots into him except kill cam shows him at 70% health.
The server browser is even worse, takes forever to get results. And it's 50/50 I don't get some error when trying to connect to servers or log into the ea server because it's just all really unreliable and shitty atm
the best method is to find servers you like to play on and favorite them. however, favoriteing servers is a bit buggy. only works for me when I put in a search term to reduce the server list. might be able to favorite servers through the history tab also but I haven't tried that yet.
On March 07 2010 23:07 PokePill wrote: have the issues from pc beta been fixed?
Mainly hit detection and poor optimization iirc
They addressed the optimization issue, works fine for me. I couldnt even run the game on low with constant 20fps. Now low-medium settings work fine in most cases.
Hit detection is better, in the beta if you didn't burst it seemed like the game just ignored your shots after your first but clicking your mouse fast would make your shots register. In retail you can burst a lot more effectively.
agree. I was actually surprised I was able to get some kills shooting from the hip. in beta, shooting from the hip was more of a crap shoot if you would hit anything at all.
There's still that bit of lag before the shots register though.
also agree with this. you'll notice this most when someone charges at you and gets a knife kill while you were pouring shots into him except kill cam shows him at 70% health.
The server browser is even worse, takes forever to get results. And it's 50/50 I don't get some error when trying to connect to servers or log into the ea server because it's just all really unreliable and shitty atm
the best method is to find servers you like to play on and favorite them. however, favoriteing servers is a bit buggy. only works for me when I put in a search term to reduce the server list. might be able to favorite servers through the history tab also but I haven't tried that yet.
Your favorite server works? mine hasn't been working and it crashes the game.
Hit detection is better, in the beta if you didn't burst it seemed like the game just ignored your shots after your first but clicking your mouse fast would make your shots register. In retail you can burst a lot more effectively.
agree. I was actually surprised I was able to get some kills shooting from the hip. in beta, shooting from the hip was more of a crap shoot if you would hit anything at all.
There's still that bit of lag before the shots register though.
also agree with this. you'll notice this most when someone charges at you and gets a knife kill while you were pouring shots into him except kill cam shows him at 70% health.
The server browser is even worse, takes forever to get results. And it's 50/50 I don't get some error when trying to connect to servers or log into the ea server because it's just all really unreliable and shitty atm
the best method is to find servers you like to play on and favorite them. however, favoriteing servers is a bit buggy. only works for me when I put in a search term to reduce the server list. might be able to favorite servers through the history tab also but I haven't tried that yet.
Your favorite server works? mine hasn't been working and it crashes the game.
I got a CTD once while in the Favorites tab. put in about 3 hours of multiplayer.
The Carl-G in the game is imba. Screw taking down armor when you can hit a paper clip from a mile away and shoot birds out of the sky with ease. The projection is straight, Ive fired over 1100 shots still retaining 95%+ accuracy. This thing is a 1 shot kill sniping monster, especially against infantry.
And along with the AK74u or UMP(I either use the mag ammo or balance perk), engie is by far the best kit. Still too many assaults spamming tubes. :/
edit: VOIP still doesnt function, VENT is a must for good squad coordination!
I never use the explosive upgrade, one direct shot with a Carl-G on a helo, light vehicle and infantry is all you need. I love sniping with it and the tubes, Im amazed how most use it more often than they fire bullets.
The optimization is miles ahead of where it was in beta. I actually canceled my pre order because it ran so poorly during beta. After it came out I saw my roommate playing it on his pc and was impressed how it looked, than I found it for $30 on eBay and that sealed it for me.
Add me up as well: Vozuca
I will play it till I get into sc2 beta or till sc2 comes out.
My friends and I feel that this game has great potential, but that it 'feels' strange. It doesn't have the smooth feeling Quake or Modern Warfare 2 have, for example. Almost as if your bullets do not hit, or have a delay.
Do others recognize this? Or is it simply because the early weapons are that weak? I really want to like this game..
Bullets have travel time and are affected by gravity. But on top of that yes there is a delay/lagginess to the game. It won't stop you from doing anything when you get used to it, it's just the price you pay for destructible environments and vehicles all over the place.
Once you get used to how the guns feel and how the netcode is you will probably feel a lot more comfortable. Early weapons are shit though, the only one that is good is the PKM. Try bursting on a medic you shouldn't have trouble killing people.
Right now I am running around sniping people with the 870 shotgun with slugs and magnum rounds. It's hilarious one shotting people with a shotgun from across the map
There's a small delay, but most of it is travel distance. The bullets just move slow. If I snipe someone at 300 yards, it takes 3 seconds for the bullet to get there or so.
Meh, I've pretty much settled on Assault for the time being. Although I've unlocked everything up to and including the AUG I'm still using the XM8 with either red dot or 4x. Don't mind it though, I'm killing fools easy with this baby.
I can pretty much see myself playing this game for years.
I play all classes, but recently discovered that the attached grenade launcher with Assault absolutely owns at short and medium distance! And you can resupply yourself.
I don't like any other gun besides the XM8 for the assault class. The XM8 has the rate of fire and accuracy that is perfect for me. I haven't unlocked the M16 yet, but I'm eager to try it out.
im prolly chobo for posting this but just got it for ps3 yesterday after trading in mw2
seems like most fo u guys are pc players but any ps3 users got this? also any tips/recommendations/things to look out for when i play online? this is my first BF game and so far im just playing campaign to get controls down
On March 18 2010 14:17 sung_moon wrote: im prolly chobo for posting this but just got it for ps3 yesterday after trading in mw2
seems like most fo u guys are pc players but any ps3 users got this? also any tips/recommendations/things to look out for when i play online? this is my first BF game and so far im just playing campaign to get controls down
I got it on the PS3 as well since I don't really want to spend around $800 - $1000 building a new PC for just 1 game (current PC will run SC2 fine). Watch this video lol. People say that it's stupid, but I honestly think it VERY accurate.
Besides that, I think assault or engineer class are good for beginners. Then move onto medic since medic class can rack up points easily by healing and reviving teammates. Sadly, you will encounter few people with headsets, so working as a team is pretty hard unless you have friends to play with that have headsets. Play the game slowly and don't play it like MW2 because there's a lot of spaces for campers to pick you off. It's best to wait for a teammate to spot an enemy and work your way from there. My PSN id is mRJDM89 if you want to play sometime.
I love when 90% of the team is either a bunch of terrible snipers or all having a circle jerk behind natural cover with ammo and medic boxes everywhere. Especially Port Valdez, the attackers dont even try. And this is the PC version, wish VOIP actually worked.
of course they got the advantage because defenders have unlimited tickets, which means that they can rush the attackers nonstop. if there are at least 1 or 2 squads who have headsets and play strategically, the playing field can be even.
when i choose the engineer class, i use the AKS-74U, AT4 launcher, marksman smg training, and explosive leg pouch.
On March 30 2010 12:02 sung_moon wrote: is it just me or does it seem liek during rush games defenders have an advantage over attackers?
edit: also wht weapons/perks do u suggest equipping for an engineer?
SCAR-L is statistically the best SMG. Same stats as the 9A-91 and UMP, but a larger clip. Best AT is definitely Carl Gustav. Low damage against tanks compared to the other two, but rocks at killing infantry at all ranges because of the huge splash radius and shot velocity. Works even better with the explosive damage+ perk.
I just got BC2 last week, was an avid BF2 player and did a lot of scrims/matches along with pubbing even though it was a terrible game. This is a lot more fun to pub in, that's for sure.
ill probably make a come back to this game once the VIP map pack is release.
The best gun being an engineer is AKS-74U it does more damage and its more accurate than the UMP. I would use the RPG over the AT Launcher anytime cause its reload speed.
SCAR-L has terrible recoil but its stats are relatively balanced and its a carbine. Not sure if it has greater range though. Still using my AK74u + Carl G(Got my Plat Star but its just too good).
Practically everyone uses the Carl G + Rocket Munitions + Explosive upgrade as their main kit. With upgrade Carl G does decent damage to tanks and with its straight projectory sniping infantry and choppers are a breeze, not the mention the extra splash damage.
edit: And the Colt .45 is still the best pistol. Accurate and packs a punch.
On March 30 2010 12:02 sung_moon wrote: is it just me or does it seem liek during rush games defenders have an advantage over attackers?
edit: also wht weapons/perks do u suggest equipping for an engineer?
The Island Map is honestly one of the worst, it encourages* to many recon users that cant shoot a standing target or have idiots taking the Black Hawks and giving it to the defenders.
On March 31 2010 19:51 Disregard wrote: The series still retains its true flaw, hit registry.
It is miles better than it was before. As a person who has been playing shooters forever, I find it quite playable. Automatic weapons are a little shaky, sniper registry is pretty solid. I thought BF1942 was one of the greatest multiplayer games ever and every DICE title since then has really disappointed. BC2 is a very solid game. I just got a new, top of the line rig, so I've been having lots of fun with it when I need a break from laddering.
Biggest problems are the unlock system (having no control over what you are getting) and just overall performance issues. Load times are bad and the game isn't nearly as clean and polished as MW2, but it is just as fun. The maps are really incredible and the non-hit box related parts of the Frostbite Engine are quite strong. The FULLY destructible environments that game makers have been dreaming of are becoming closer by the year.
If you have a decent Quad core, the game will load in a flash. The unlock system has always been like this, Ive honestly never had complaints about it. It helps drive the play experience and I still prefer most of the stock weapons over the unlocks, especially the M24.
But the hit detection is terrible since they havent fixed the connection problems. Ive had many times had problems knifing someone and have the knife only touch them but not actually kill them. Or shoot someone when they're at a certain position or something(Cant clearly explain it) but you will see that the bullets are actually affecting them but no damage is registered. Ive honestly never seen any players below 90 latency and usually 75% of the players have over 250 ping which is amazing. -___-
I have gotten about 100 hours in including the dreaded beta so far, its fun. I can also blame my crappy rig for some of rage, running everything on low + dx9. It runs fine but when it gets intense it just dips or freezes. Oh... And the game can crash often which is annoying, either from clicking on the server browser or EA servers crapping on themselves.
Sorry its only semi-related, but i fired up 1943 for the first time in a while and it looks like all of EA's magic has gone into BFBC2, its lag makes it unplayable. Shame because i really enjoy all their offerings for the most part.
Yeah Finally had a chance to play the new VIP maps. Conquest Mode of Africa Harbor is so fun but too many grenade spamming and not enough rushing to cap a flag, As for Rush Mode of Laguna Presa this map reminds me of that map in BF2 which I have no idea the name of it. Rocket Launcher > Boat
On April 01 2010 07:57 Tekin wrote: Yeah Finally had a chance to play the new VIP maps. Conquest Mode of Africa Harbor is so fun but too many grenade spamming and not enough rushing to cap a flag, As for Rush Mode of Laguna Presa this map reminds me of that map in BF2 which I have no idea the name of it. Rocket Launcher > Boat
Arica Harbor is like Karkand from BF2 but twice as large. And nade spam city.
Ok, had a chance to play this quite extensively now and i'm still impressed!
The hit registry of the frostbite engine doesn't have the same smooth feeling as CoD which is a shame, but this isn't really meant to be played like CoD.
What i like most about this game is the sense of realism. It's better than any RL military exercise i've ever participated in - you never feel safe, the sound is alarming, bullets and flack rain everywhere and even when you're in a vehicle you're very exposed. I've never been to war and i hope i'll never have to - but this captures the adrenaline pumping thrill (with the risk being a worse K:D ratio, not mutilation or death :p) in the same way a good war movie does.
My only real big gripe with the game is that they could have made online play a lot easier to embrace. I'll speak from my own experience here: for a long while i'd run around, happily participating in squad rushes, keep my trigger finger pumping and doing my best to survive. However - it soon became apparent that while one burst from my assault rifle would only wound enemies unless i shot them in the head or softened them up with grenades first; while they would only need one stream of random spam bullets to hit me for me to go down. This got old really fast and i started thinking - do i even hit them properly at all? So, coincidentally i joined a Kill Cam: ON game and thus found out what was going on. The people i bursted who bursted me back and killed me instantly all lost health - they went down to like 24% but the difference was that they were using either Magnum Ammo (most of them) or Body Armor. Turns out i don't really need a better weapon or better aim - i need an upgrade i get at rank 15.
My proposal to fix this would be to have < rank 15 servers that appear with a "Recommended" tag on them since the magnum ammo upgrade is so pivotal. Playing with >15 people which i do now (currently at rank 8) just encourages cheesy play - 40mm grenade spam with the ammo box to keep replenishing while farming kills on rush games is basically THE best way to contribute as you're leveling assault. As a medic you can keep your squad up, as an engineer you can focus on killing enemy armor and recon doesn't need magnum ammo to have a 1-shot kill weapon, the first sniper works. Now, i'm determined to keep leveling assault so rush games with nade spam is what i'll do - but it's seriously stupid. I should have the M16 by the time i hit 15 though so i guess it's just an initial grind you'll have to endure in any shooter these days. Sub 15 servers would help a lot though!
On June 11 2010 07:20 Senx wrote: Ok so I just got this game for the PC.. played like 3 matches so far. A few points.
Progression towards new weaps/items IS WAY slower than MW2 which is quite scary given the amount of time a game takes in BC2.
Sniper rifle cant actually kill anyone from long range? I put 3-4 shots into a guy, and he did not die. several times this happend. :/
I LOVE the slow progression of the items / levels. Actually gives you something to work for. Although I just now finished unlocking all the classes . Now I just get to grind it out to level 50.
As for the sniper class. I think recon is the most retarded class in this game. The are most viable running around like fucks using a shotgun. "Hi, I am a sniper class and can do just fine up close jumping around with a shotgun with 40 rounds killing half your team". (Ok, that was a little exaggerated) The motion sensor is an invaluable item as well. It can make a shitty team win games.
Besides that, the sniping actually takes a lot of skill in this game. You have to learn how to work with the bullet drop, and head shots are pretty much the only one shot kill. (thank god). Mortar strike is pretty cool, but can get annoying on rush maps when they just spam the points with mortar strike until it dies.
Another major problem I have had with this game is the GUSTAV. This little gem of a rocket launcher has been given the loving name of "noob tube", and for a VERY good reason. You can equip the two explosive specialties and the Gustav, and as long as you hit somewhere near an opponent, you will kill them.
Pretty much everyone who plays demo man in TF2 is playing engie with the noob tube in this game. You can mash your head on your keyboard and probably come out with an even score.
Outside of those few complaints, I love this game. I have put 50ish hours into it and have enjoyed every second of it. Probably one of the best squad based FPS out there.
So you're saying that I can actually 1shot a guy with the first sniper rifle if i shoot him in the head? Im not sure that worked last time.. maybe too far away.
Funny you mention that the noobtube is happend to be the same name as my real life name, maybe we're made for eachother? Seriously though, I didn't like the noobtubes in MW2 and I don't see myself running around with some stupid rocket launcher in this game either.
I do however like how the sniper rifles feel in this game, what worries me is that i seem to be unable to kill people with it :/ Hopefully improve to get those headshots.
I just got the game a few days ago too but I can tell you the first gun for like every class is utter garbage. Once you get a few unlocks it's like night and day. and yeah, the starter sniper rifle needs headshots for 1 shot kills (But I think theres some latter ones that 1 shot with bodyshots, not sure tho havn't been playing recon)
in hardcore you can usually kill people with chest shots with a sniper rifle in 1 hit.. you may need magnum ammo on though and they might be able to survive if theyre using body armor
but anyways this is a great game and lots more fun if you can get some friends to play with and communicate over skype
I like the game so far. Playing a sniper is a rough life though, you get rushed like woah. But I did get some good shots now that i only aim for the head.
Spawn system is utter crap, the amount of spawn camping reminds of shitty FPS titles in like 2002.
I dont understand why they dont have multiple spawn zones on each map to prevent this.
im curious how its running on people's dual cores, cause there was lots of talk during the beta about poor optimization, and the discussion was never resolved after release. i know my pc had much more trouble running it than it thought it should have. anyone have info on this?
EDIT: thank you snotboogie, now I can feel better having saved the money (I'm all for good gameplay, which the game has, but I'm a graphics whore)
^It runs totally shit on dual core. I run everything minimized and I still get low fps sometimes. (Core 2 Duo, 8800GT, 4gb, Win7 64. Should be MUCH better than this) But the gameplay is still enjoyable to me so I still play it, especially since the beta's down now.
Any Aussies on here wanna play some? My Soldier name is Snotboogie
On June 11 2010 09:56 Senx wrote: I like the game so far. Playing a sniper is a rough life though, you get rushed like woah. But I did get some good shots now that i only aim for the head.
Spawn system is utter crap, the amount of spawn camping reminds of shitty FPS titles in like 2002.
I dont understand why they dont have multiple spawn zones on each map to prevent this.
shouldn't really be happening if your playing on PC version, u can literally swap squad and spawn on any team mate on the map, the default spawn point is crap, but overall the spawn system is way better than MW2 imo.
this game is way much noob-friendly and really no that much of a fun once you've figured out what this game is all about.... flanking/sneak behind and be a spawn point for ur team mate. the game is way too slow paced and really punishes low lvl newbies because of so much the speed of the lvl progression and how much u suffered because of the weapons and perks advantage of higher lvl players,so u have to get past i think lvl 25 to be on equal footing, which it will take quite a while for u to get there.
haven't played this shit for almost 3-4 months, but i got so tired of it only after 2 month + of casual playing, i can see why some people enjoyed this game, it's slow paced and supposedly "tactical" if u call it that, sniper doesn't one shot easily at a far range unless head shots, which is again made difficult by the bullets physics. tubes and rocket launchers aren't as ridiculous as in MW2. sigh too bad MW2 is played on such shitty online platform, its gameplay isn't perfect but its a really enjoyable FPS..
oh, in BC2 i'd suggest u try using a sniper rifle attached with the red dot sight, it hillarious and some snipers actually bugs out, i used to fuck around with the M95 with red shot attached rushing in playing like a shot gun class. and they made every gun is powerful as the M60 yet?
On June 18 2010 04:23 Argoth. wrote: Just got the game too, liking it so far good old battlefield feeling. If somebody wants to play, soldier name is argoth1
I've had this game since launch and I gotta say that I really like the game. It's hard too not have fun in this game!
On June 11 2010 07:20 Senx wrote: Sniper rifle cant actually kill anyone from long range? I put 3-4 shots into a guy, and he did not die. several times this happend. :/.
It takes an average of 2 shots for me at least. And it's something called gravity... when you're trying to shoot long range. This isn't like MW2 or other FPS games with sniper rifles where the bullet goes straight directly where the scope is.
Its pretty fun, but honestly, everybody playing sniper makes me rip my eyes out. when 6 out of the 12 people on my team are sitting on noob mountain firing at random every 2 minutes, and we never get anywhere....reagrh. its worse in hardcore, because one shot sniper means lol everyone snipes.
On June 18 2010 05:54 Sanitarium14 wrote: Its pretty fun, but honestly, everybody playing sniper makes me rip my eyes out. when 6 out of the 12 people on my team are sitting on noob mountain firing at random every 2 minutes, and we never get anywhere....reagrh. its worse in hardcore, because one shot sniper means lol everyone snipes.
Yeah, I totally agree with you... I bought BC2 on release day and the game was AWESOME because everyone was picking more aggressive classes and there were rarely a ton of snipers like now. I guess all the MW2 players switched to BC2, which is why there are so many recon class players lol. The best way to get around that is just plaiyng with your friends to be in the same squad together and just flank snipers. To be honest, most of the snipers I played with are not good.... I remember having a guy on my team that did nothing but camp on a hill or near bushes and trees and just call in mortar strikes.
The only time I don't mind snipers if they actually work w/ the squad such as spotting enemies, throwing motion sensor grenades, or actually use his damn mic to call out stuff.
On June 18 2010 05:54 Sanitarium14 wrote: Its pretty fun, but honestly, everybody playing sniper makes me rip my eyes out. when 6 out of the 12 people on my team are sitting on noob mountain firing at random every 2 minutes, and we never get anywhere....reagrh. its worse in hardcore, because one shot sniper means lol everyone snipes.
Yeah, I totally agree with you... I bought BC2 on release day and the game was AWESOME because everyone was picking more aggressive classes and there were rarely a ton of snipers like now. I guess all the MW2 players switched to BC2, which is why there are so many recon class players lol. The best way to get around that is just plaiyng with your friends to be in the same squad together and just flank snipers. To be honest, most of the snipers I played with are not good.... I remember having a guy on my team that did nothing but camp on a hill or near bushes and trees and just call in mortar strikes.
The only time I don't mind snipers if they actually work w/ the squad such as spotting enemies, throwing motion sensor grenades, or actually use his damn mic to call out stuff.
Yea thats a continuing problem, the size of maps mean you aren't forced to be offensive, so a whole team can go sniper and well you've lost. Having said that its usually because you already have, people tend to switch on mass when the chopper landings or just pushes fail horribly. If you see 'PUUSH !!1!' in team chat its pretty much game.
Having said that if you manage to move the game on a stage/area (when the map moves forward) it really switches. All the snipers disappear and you get all that momentum back. I think its partly due to players leaving, so the new guys bring some gusto and forward spawns.
Yea the everyone switching to sniper seems to be a problem. That is why I just roll with my 4 other friends and we solo win games . Just run in with 2x medics, 2x assult, and an engie. We can pretty much roll any opposition, and with 500 newbs giving us sniper cover, we can actually take points haha
Very very fun game! Probably best squad based game since Return to Castle Wolfeinstein.
Just started to play this game recently. Playing a friend's Steam, and I also have it on PS3 (Got it cheap at EA) ... The PC version is great, but it kinda runs slow on my PC... so... I go to my PS3 version and it's basically fantastic except for the fucking lag. I don't normally rage at games or anything but for some reason it's so annoying to rubber-band back 3 steps or to kinda.... move when you're even standing still. Anyone else having this problem?
Oh yeah, after playing BC2, I couldn't even stand playing MW2 anymore. The game is basically great, for this genre.
On June 11 2010 07:20 Senx wrote: Sniper rifle cant actually kill anyone from long range? I put 3-4 shots into a guy, and he did not die. several times this happend. :/.
It takes an average of 2 shots for me at least. And it's something called gravity... when you're trying to shoot long range. This isn't like MW2 or other FPS games with sniper rifles where the bullet goes straight directly where the scope is.
This game > MW2 by miles.
You guys need to head shot. I'm sniper master, once you get the trajectory figured out for m95/m24 you will be 1shotting people in no time.
My account name is Kennigit if anyone wants to play
On June 11 2010 09:56 Senx wrote: I like the game so far. Playing a sniper is a rough life though, you get rushed like woah. But I did get some good shots now that i only aim for the head.
Spawn system is utter crap, the amount of spawn camping reminds of shitty FPS titles in like 2002.
I dont understand why they dont have multiple spawn zones on each map to prevent this.
shouldn't really be happening if your playing on PC version, u can literally swap squad and spawn on any team mate on the map, the default spawn point is crap, but overall the spawn system is way better than MW2 imo.
this game is way much noob-friendly and really no that much of a fun once you've figured out what this game is all about.... flanking/sneak behind and be a spawn point for ur team mate. the game is way too slow paced and really punishes low lvl newbies because of so much the speed of the lvl progression and how much u suffered because of the weapons and perks advantage of higher lvl players,so u have to get past i think lvl 25 to be on equal footing, which it will take quite a while for u to get there.
haven't played this shit for almost 3-4 months, but i got so tired of it only after 2 month + of casual playing, i can see why some people enjoyed this game, it's slow paced and supposedly "tactical" if u call it that, sniper doesn't one shot easily at a far range unless head shots, which is again made difficult by the bullets physics. tubes and rocket launchers aren't as ridiculous as in MW2. sigh too bad MW2 is played on such shitty online platform, its gameplay isn't perfect but its a really enjoyable FPS..
oh, in BC2 i'd suggest u try using a sniper rifle attached with the red dot sight, it hillarious and some snipers actually bugs out, i used to fuck around with the M95 with red shot attached rushing in playing like a shot gun class. and they made every gun is powerful as the M60 yet?
Your post is not really true imo. Both me and my brother were upper level counter-strike players for many many years, and both decided to give BC2 a shot. By the time we hit level 3, we were already leading the scoreboards in every squad deathmatch game we played. It was actually pretty funny to watch him drop 25bombs when he was only level 3 , and level 50's were hovering around 10-15 kills. My point is you dont have to be level 25 to compete with anyone. Sure magnum ammo is going to give anyone over lvl 15 an advantage etc, but when you shoot someone in the face with your first 3 bullets, it doesnt really matter does it.
BC2 is okay. The gameplay isn't nearly as refined as COD4 and it doesn't have the same scope as as a Battlefield game, so I find it kind of infuriating to play. It feels like they've actually gone backwards as far as netcode and hit reg. Add to that the engine is a huge bloomfest. In the beta I got sort of wolf et-ish vibes from playing it so I bought it, but it kinda blows
i know it's a pretty old thread but some important news just came out yesterday... today, after quite a long time, a new (gamechanging) patch is coming out... the full list can be found on the bfbc2blog
what is probably the most interesting thing about it is that basically the weaponhandling aswell as the hitboxes and damage model are gonna be changed which should have a significant impact on the gameplay...(and finally the bugged insignias got fixed )
also the dlc "vietnam" will be released in about 40 days...for 12.99$ a new trailer aswell as some new screenshots got posted on bfbc2 official
oh and i almost forgot...people who bought the new medal of honor will get the beta access to battlefield 3 now it's nothing really bfbc2 related but still interesting
i bought bfbc2 on steam so the patch will be applied automatically there... actually i don't know if anyone is still playing here but after i read that some stuff - which kinda bothered quite a lot people (including me) - are gonna be fixed, i immediately installed the game yesterday and played some games after a break of almost six months...and i knew why i bought that game in first place - it's really fun!
well...if anyone is interested in some action...just pm me
i purchased BC2 between beta downtime and release of sc2.. i kinda regret it, the game was nice but nothing really new on the table.. anyhow.. Boxer fighting!
Everyone purchased it thinking it was a legitimate sequel to the BF series but its not. But it seems EA is tacking more on, now adding the Vietnam expansion.
if you would like to see the game play i do stream some bfbc2 come hangout sometime and watch me own or get ownd haha, there is no bf3 next one is bfbc2vietnam
On October 30 2010 22:11 Shizuru~ wrote: so... have they decided to nerfed M60 yet?
yeah they indeed nerf the m60...also since the damagemodels and hitboxes are slightly different the m60 will still be not bad but for sure not as good as before...
of course bfbc2 is not THE game for a serious esports career and the patch won't change much about that...and comparing it to cod was always a bit silly to me since it would be the same if you compare the settlers with starcraft, if you know what i mean... but bfbc2 is quite good to have some fun and the graphics are also not bad...so it's actually a really good game for short brakes between starcraft sessions...just don't take this game too serious
specact dlc just came out yesterday for bfbc2 aswell as the prepurchase and early access for the vietnam addon (via steam)... and finally a patch which fixed some smaller but still annoying stuff like some insignias not getting...and receiving damage of the mcom's
edit: almost forgot the map pack #7 which is the first real map pack i guess, since it's the first one with actual new maps
I've never been a huge FPS guy, but I picked this up and played it and am having fun with it. The new maps are pretty fun. Can't wait for the Vietnam expansion.
I haven't played BFBC 1.. or any Battlefield game since Battlefield 2, which I enjoyed. And since I see a couple comparisons between this and CoD.. I hated Black Ops and most other CoD games. Is this worth picking up in my position, or should I just get in line and wait for Battlefield 3?
On December 05 2010 06:49 Katkishka wrote: I haven't played BFBC 1.. or any Battlefield game since Battlefield 2, which I enjoyed. And since I see a couple comparisons between this and CoD.. I hated Black Ops and most other CoD games. Is this worth picking up in my position, or should I just get in line and wait for Battlefield 3?
IMO it's the best multiplayer FPS since at least TF2. it's really really good.
On December 05 2010 06:49 Katkishka wrote: I haven't played BFBC 1.. or any Battlefield game since Battlefield 2, which I enjoyed. And since I see a couple comparisons between this and CoD.. I hated Black Ops and most other CoD games. Is this worth picking up in my position, or should I just get in line and wait for Battlefield 3?
if you enjoyed bf2 and never really liked cod then bfbc2 is probably your game! although there are also quite a few differences between bfbc2 and bf2... in case you wanna stay straight at a very bf2 similar game (which is in my oppinion not even worth it's own game, or even called "new game") then you should just wait for bf play4free since it's release is pretty soon and bf3 will most likely take years before it becomes released!
however i would really recommand bfbc2! it's really a style of gameplay you don't see in many games, it has a lot of cool (and at the very release genrebreaking new features) but it still feels like a bf game... the latest patches really fixed what needed to be fixed and overall it's a quite balanced game (in terms of gameplay aswell as graphics). story is not really the best of the best but i guess nobody really plays a bf title for the singleplayer
edit: also on steam is a deal where you get it with the new specact dlc and the upcoming vietnam addon cheaper than usual
just read the onslaught mode is coming to the pc within the next few days! looks like they finally decided to get all the stuff for consoles now also for the pc...finally...
I recently got BF:BC2. "Realistic" shooter games were never really my cup of tea, but a friend recommended it to me and I miss some co-op online action since quitting WoW.
So far it's a decent game; the SP could have lasted longer than only a few hours but who cares. Multiplayer is alright, but I don't get the logic behind snipers and assault starting with decent weapons, but engineers being unable to repair and medics being unable to heal until a certain level of experience. I realize it's not that much and will be done in a couple of games, but it's frustrating joining as a medic only to be a sub-par assault support with a shitty gun.
On December 14 2010 20:31 Shockk wrote: I recently got BF:BC2. "Realistic" shooter games were never really my cup of tea, but a friend recommended it to me and I miss some co-op online action since quitting WoW.
So far it's a decent game; the SP could have lasted longer than only a few hours but who cares. Multiplayer is alright, but I don't get the logic behind snipers and assault starting with decent weapons, but engineers being unable to repair and medics being unable to heal until a certain level of experience. I realize it's not that much and will be done in a couple of games, but it's frustrating joining as a medic only to be a sub-par assault support with a shitty gun.
Actually the medic guns are really powerful at mid-long distans as long as you don't spray it, and the submachineguns are really scary at short-mid. Even the lower and higher tier guns are about equal, PKM for example has the highest dmg of all MGs. All the guns are balanced pretty well so its all about how you use them.
I'm thinking about playing this again since Blops has gotten really stale but the one thing that holds me back is the fact that medics are ridiculously overpowered and always top the scoreboard. As a starcraft nerd I want to win so I always feel obliged to play medic =(
On December 14 2010 23:05 snotboogie wrote: I'm thinking about playing this again since Blops has gotten really stale but the one thing that holds me back is the fact that medics are ridiculously overpowered and always top the scoreboard. As a starcraft nerd I want to win so I always feel obliged to play medic =(
what mode are you playing?
well...speaking about earned points you'll often see medics on top, just because of the healing and reviving. which is most likely also a win in rush-mode, probably also suqadrush with good medics... but epecially in squadops-deathmatch and most certainly conquest, a highscored medic in your team does not in any kind mean, that you're on the winning team!
and with the new added maps (which are not really that much medic favoured) and the slight nerf of some medic.weapons you should definitely give it a try...agian
On December 14 2010 23:55 Hoon wrote: I got a Beta Key for Battlefield Play For Free but I'm not sure if it's worth downloading :p I'm having too much fun with BFBC2 already :D
don't download it! i already wrote it in the p4f thread here...it's definitely not worth the time...
On December 14 2010 23:05 snotboogie wrote: I'm thinking about playing this again since Blops has gotten really stale but the one thing that holds me back is the fact that medics are ridiculously overpowered and always top the scoreboard. As a starcraft nerd I want to win so I always feel obliged to play medic =(
what mode are you playing?
well...speaking about earned points you'll often see medics on top, just because of the healing and reviving. which is most likely also a win in rush-mode, probably also suqadrush with good medics... but epecially in squadops-deathmatch and most certainly conquest, a highscored medic in your team does not in any kind mean, that you're on the winning team!
and with the new added maps (which are not really that much medic favoured) and the slight nerf of some medic.weapons you should definitely give it a try...agian
On December 15 2010 23:59 Disregard wrote: Anyone else getting the Vietnam expansion?
Ive been having issues with my xbl modem, but I plan on trying it once it's fixed. Looks good and Vietnam, despite the many glitches, was probably my favorite in the franchise.
I still wish 2142 had a little heart put into it. That had a lot of cool potential but it was pretty bland.
On December 16 2010 02:49 Disregard wrote: You guys play BC2 on console? Playing any FPS on console is a huge no-no for me.
well...my last fps on a console which i played more than just a few days was "Geist" for the gamecube i tried quite a few on xbox 360 and ps3 lately and also some on wii but i really sucked so far...
also tried bc2 once and maaann...i was bad. it may occur that bc2 does not have the best mechanics in the fps genre but they did a pretty good job of adopting it on the consoles (or vice versa)
On December 16 2010 02:49 Disregard wrote: You guys play BC2 on console? Playing any FPS on console is a huge no-no for me.
pc is obviously better, but it's just not practical. ive got better things to spend money on than have a laptop and a serious gaming rig to continually update for new games
So i got banned today for multihack, btw ive never used hacks in my entire life and i dont even know what multihack is. Dont have a clue why the hell this happend. PB's gone fucked itself good this time.
On December 16 2010 04:10 MHT wrote: So i got banned today for multihack, btw ive never used hacks in my entire life and i dont even know what multihack is. Dont have a clue why the hell this happend. PB's gone fucked itself good this time.
On December 16 2010 04:10 MHT wrote: So i got banned today for multihack, btw ive never used hacks in my entire life and i dont even know what multihack is. Dont have a clue why the hell this happend. PB's gone fucked itself good this time.
appeal the ban
PB has lifted 814 bans related to BC2.
Well it seems like it already is lifted, can play normally even on the server i was banned on. Could be somekinda bug somewhere maybe. And i couldn't find myself on any of the ban lists on pbbans.
On December 16 2010 04:10 MHT wrote: So i got banned today for multihack, btw ive never used hacks in my entire life and i dont even know what multihack is. Dont have a clue why the hell this happend. PB's gone fucked itself good this time.
appeal the ban
PB has lifted 814 bans related to BC2.
Well it seems like it already is lifted, can play normally even on the server i was banned on. Could be somekinda bug somewhere maybe. And i couldn't find myself on any of the ban lists on pbbans.
Are you sure it wasn't just a server admin being a douche? They can kick and ban you from their server, and make it say whatever they want.
Im really a bit curious about if theres gonna be other guns if we reach each level on the new expansion pack. The flamethrower is gonna be very annoying watch.
On December 16 2010 04:10 MHT wrote: So i got banned today for multihack, btw ive never used hacks in my entire life and i dont even know what multihack is. Dont have a clue why the hell this happend. PB's gone fucked itself good this time.
appeal the ban
PB has lifted 814 bans related to BC2.
Well it seems like it already is lifted, can play normally even on the server i was banned on. Could be somekinda bug somewhere maybe. And i couldn't find myself on any of the ban lists on pbbans.
Are you sure it wasn't just a server admin being a douche? They can kick and ban you from their server, and make it say whatever they want.
This was my first thought when i got kicked, since i was topping the scoreboard i figured the admin got sick of me. But then i saw how complicated the message looked with all the "player", "multihack" and random numbers everywhere so i thought it was authentic.
Now that you said it i went looking for screenshots and the message dont match with real PB messages I only got kicked and he made it look like i got cought hacking.
Speaking of old vibe, does anyone know if it is still possible play Battlefield 1942 online (with or without add-ons)? I've played the original game 7 years ago and wanted to play it again. Such a fun game. Unfortunately I live in a country where it can't be acquired. I would gladly exchange an unused StarCraft BroodWar cd-key for a working (online multiplayer) Battlefield 1942 serial number if anyone is interested.
I'm a few days into BF:BC2 now and I really like the game. My K/D ratio still is horrible, but I guess that'll change with experience and once I know the maps. I do have some questions left, though .
I) Some weapons (like the Abakan) don't have automatic fire, but only small burst that have to be triggered again and again. While this is awesome in ranged fights, it sucks in close combat. Is there a way to switch firing modes?
II) I've read about the SPECACT DLC with modified character and weapon skins, but didn't find a decent before/after screenshot or any comparison between old and new models while googling. Is is worth it? The same friend that introduced me to BF says that it's much harder to be seen when hiding in terrain, but I'm not so sure and 5€ for some skins is a bit much.
III) Onslaught mode may or may not come for PC, it seems the designers aren't sure yet. But what exactly is Onslaught? Seems to be 4 player vs. AI, but how does it work?
On December 16 2010 16:48 Shockk wrote: I'm a few days into BF:BC2 now and I really like the game. My K/D ratio still is horrible, but I guess that'll change with experience and once I know the maps. I do have some questions left, though .
I) Some weapons (like the Abakan) don't have automatic fire, but only small burst that have to be triggered again and again. While this is awesome in ranged fights, it sucks in close combat. Is there a way to switch firing modes?
II) I've read about the SPECACT DLC with modified character and weapon skins, but didn't find a decent before/after screenshot or any comparison between old and new models while googling. Is is worth it? The same friend that introduced me to BF says that it's much harder to be seen when hiding in terrain, but I'm not so sure and 5€ for some skins is a bit much.
III) Onslaught mode may or may not come for PC, it seems the designers aren't sure yet. But what exactly is Onslaught? Seems to be 4 player vs. AI, but how does it work?
1. No, there isn't. The AN-94 is actually considered a noob gun among members of various BC2 forums really.
2. There is camouflage with the model skins, but the problem is that they stay the same on every map. I don't have it, but I've seen players having a desert model and when the map switches to a more jungle environment, they are still seen wearing the desert outfit. If you think that it costs too much then don't bother in the first place imo.
Thanks for the quick response. Why is the AN-94 considered a "noob" gun? (because of the easy aiming and little to no spraying especially when fighting ranged?)
Oh, and one more question. When viewing the scoreboards, some people have an additional number behind their ranks, e.g. [1] [50] [2], with [1] being the rank within the team, [50] being their military rank and [2] being ... what exactly?
the veteran status! on ea you can register all your codes of previous bf titles (1942, vietnam, bf2, heroes, bc1, 2142 and the respective demos and addons). you also get some aditional weapons for veteranstatus 1 and 2... i, for example, have 2 because i was too lazy to register more
On December 16 2010 17:56 xaeiu wrote: the veteran status! on ea you can register all your codes of previous bf titles (1942, vietnam, bf2, heroes, bc1, 2142 and the respective demos and addons). you also get some aditional weapons for veteranstatus 1 and 2... i, for example, have 2 because i was too lazy to register more
hooray for steam's early acces of vietnam
Ah, good to know. I played BF: Heroes on another account, but just registered for it on my current account and created a soldier. Hopefully it'll count so I can at least get Vet rank 1.
Regarding the Vietnam expansion: I plan to buy it via the EA store, since my version isn't on Steam and Amazon support for games rated 18 in Germany is ridiculous. My BF:BC2 is an english UK import; can I select the language for the addon in the EA store (never bought anything there before)?
Sorry to post yet another question here, but this really left me puzzled.
I just bought/preordered the Vietnam expansion via the EA Store; everything went fine, Paypal payment worked etc. But now all I have is a billing confirmation. Apparently I already downloaded the Vietnam data with the latest BC2 patch - so how will I activate it on the 18th? Will I receive a code via email that I may redeem ingame or on the website? Or does it work in another way?
I already tried the EA support chat, but the guy I chatted with apparently had some language issues and I'm sure he didn't really understand what I wanted to ask :/.
Nvm - just found the answer while randomly browsing the BC2 forums.
Any stores that "sell BC2 Vietnam", sell a 16-digit code. This code can be entered into the BC2 game client - any version of the game client. Entering this code unlocks Vietnam for that EA account. No additional download is necessary.
On December 16 2010 17:31 Shockk wrote: Thanks for the quick response. Why is the AN-94 considered a "noob" gun? (because of the easy aiming and little to no spraying especially when fighting ranged?)
Oh, and one more question. When viewing the scoreboards, some people have an additional number behind their ranks, e.g. [1] [50] [2], with [1] being the rank within the team, [50] being their military rank and [2] being ... what exactly?
Pretty much since the gun is REALLY easy to use imo. I don't use the gun a lot, but only on certain maps. People just get pissed/annoyed when someone is on a killing streak or just camping with it.
On December 18 2010 12:17 Disregard wrote: The AUG is really good, I use it over the M4. But the AN94 and M16 is a class of their own, too OP.
Yeah, I really like the AUG since the rate of fire and power is just right on a lot of maps. I personally do not think the M16 is OP compared to the AN-94. Speaking of balance, I find the early gun, XM8 one of the best assault rifles in the game.
just played a few minutes of vietnam...reminds me in gameplay and style somehow really of bf:vietnam gonna start to play a real session of vietnam today evening...so if anyone wants to join, just pm me your steamadd or bc2soldiename...
On December 18 2010 19:55 xaeiu wrote: just played a few minutes of vietnam...reminds me in gameplay and style somehow really of bf:vietnam gonna start to play a real session of vietnam today evening...so if anyone wants to join, just pm me your steamadd or bc2soldiename...
what!!!....make that AWESOME!! I just played a game wow now i wonder why i was always pulled back in to the battlefield games cause there AWESOME!
On December 18 2010 12:17 Disregard wrote: The AUG is really good, I use it over the M4. But the AN94 and M16 is a class of their own, too OP.
Yeah, I really like the AUG since the rate of fire and power is just right on a lot of maps. I personally do not think the M16 is OP compared to the AN-94. Speaking of balance, I find the early gun, XM8 one of the best assault rifles in the game.
The AUG does the same max damage as the M416, but does less damage at long range. It also has the same firing rate.
The M416 also has less recoil than the AUG, and reloads faster.
The only thing the AUG has going for it, is slightly less unzoomed spread.
Only played about 10 minutes of Vietnam. it was like $14 so I just impulse bought, good price point.
The server was really laggy, dunno if it's the game or the server's fault. There's like a filter to make it look vietnam era-ish I guess, I have to get used to it cause it just hurt my eyes for the few minutes I played. Punkbuster kicked me because it couldn't update.
I really haven't played enough to make any judgements. So far it seems cool though
Been playing some more and the maps seem really good. Because there is less focus on vehicles you get these mad infantry lines just pushing forward and small squads can start flanking.
I got into a server that wasn't a laggy mess and they did a really good job with the hit registry and feel of the guns. I didn't play without magnum rounds so I don't know how broken they are in this, but the combat felt really good. Much better than vanilla BC2 and MOH, which was total shit.
On December 19 2010 03:13 eodynn wrote: dunno about you guys, but i like the vehicle gameplay in bc2, maps like heavy metal can be really fun, dont you think so?
well..of course! i guess the vehicles are one of the main reasons to play this game but at least for me, from time to time i just need some man-to-man combats...especially squad-deatchmatch on some dense towns.
however...i played vietnam now for almost 4 hours straight and tried pretty much all the new maps and weapons and vehicles...pretty cool stuff! what i just noticed was that the game is obviously still bc2 but also a lil bit MOH-like...especially the new weapn-designs!
I like the fact they got put the radio in again, awesome! The registry is better than vanilla and the flame thrower is a total griefer weapon... Pretty fun though when you have a squad go commando with it, hilarity ensues.
On December 19 2010 07:12 heishe wrote: sucks that this will only be available as a download. I'll never be able to load it with my super ass slow connection :/
Vietnam isn't a download. The data is already included in the latest BF:BC2 patch, so if your game is up to date, you can play Vietnam. All you need to do is buy it and redeem the registration code ingame.
I've played a few rounds now and it's really fun. Very intense, very much action, in all modes. I'm not sure if I like everyone except snipers losing scopes. The heavy focus on infantry makes the game feel very different to the original BC2, and I'll see myself switching between the two frequently. When I'm in the mood for action and mayhem, I'll play Vietnam, else, I'll stick with the standard game.
Had a 6 hour run on it, the PBR is OP and PPSH is ridiculous. Flying the Huey gunships is really easy but its a bullet magnet, dont expect to survive without armor or someone constantly repairing.
Vietnam really really suffers from not having prone, much more than vanilla BC2. There's not that much cover in these maps and you die really quickly in this.
On December 20 2010 01:05 floor exercise wrote: Vietnam really really suffers from not having prone, much more than vanilla BC2. There's not that much cover in these maps and you die really quickly in this.
Get over it already, it's been like a fucking year by now....
Bad Company is the best online FPS on the market, especially compared with shite like Medal of Honor and so on... That Tier 1 bullshit was ridiculous... I was in the beta and I deleted it in DISGUST like 2 hours after installing it....
On December 20 2010 01:05 floor exercise wrote: Vietnam really really suffers from not having prone, much more than vanilla BC2. There's not that much cover in these maps and you die really quickly in this.
Get over it already, it's been like a fucking year by now....
Bad Company is the best online FPS on the market, especially compared with shite like Medal of Honor and so on... That Tier 1 bullshit was ridiculous... I was in the beta and I deleted it in DISGUST like 2 hours after installing it....
Dude, calm down. Someone posts an opinion that's perfectly OK, no need for you to rage like that and start comparisons noone asked for.
I agree with people dieing quickly in Vietnam - but I accept that as a different style of playing. There's no need for more cover when it'll be a massive infantry slaughterfest anyway. And it's a nice alternative to BF:BC2 matches, which can quickly become static and punish those that actually do something.
On December 20 2010 01:05 floor exercise wrote: Vietnam really really suffers from not having prone, much more than vanilla BC2. There's not that much cover in these maps and you die really quickly in this.
Get over it already, it's been like a fucking year by now....
Bad Company is the best online FPS on the market, especially compared with shite like Medal of Honor and so on... That Tier 1 bullshit was ridiculous... I was in the beta and I deleted it in DISGUST like 2 hours after installing it....
No it's been like a day, Vietnam plays almost nothing like BC2. I could take or leave prone in BC2 but Vietnam you can pretty much snipe people with smg's from across the maps (which have no cover because there aren't really any buildings)
Yeah, this game has been my go to Xbox game for a while now, but seeing as how i'll be moving to college in a few days and won't be bringing my xbox I just bought it for like 6 dollars off steam. Hopefully my laptop can play it at a reasonable framerate, I'm actually looking forward to starting the game over from scratch.
On December 22 2010 07:15 raheelp wrote: So I just got the game off steam and I have to say that this has to be the best multiplayer fps since tf2.
Yeah, I share that impression. I've been playing for a little over a week now (don't have it from Steam, though) and I'm totally hooked. I really enjoyed shooters some time ago (CS 0.x-1.5, UT) but could never really enjoy modern shooters for whatever reasons; they just weren't fun. BF:BC2 though is everything I want: Quick action, but with team play and some strategy/tactics involved.
Another bump to this thread from a recent buyer of BC2. If you missed the $7 deal, pick it up on the Encore Steam Sale day because the campaign alone pretty much blew my mind. Multiplayer is also great - I've been waiting for a modern shooter like this to come out. Like people have said - fast action, but you need tactics as well because you can't just run and gun. Destructible environments are amazingly good and the overall game is really immersive.
Really enjoyed Vietnam in the one hour or so of playing it before I had to catch a flight.
The M16 has the best firing sound of any video game gun I've ever heard. Just so good... (maybe it's the new headphones).
I can see myself playing it far more than BC2, if not just for the far more reasonable weapon damage numbers in normal mode.
It also seems more focused on infantry combat, which is a plus for me atleast (I hate vehicle oriented maps, such as Heavy Metal. I didn't have this issue in BF2 at all).
The M16 is taken straight from MOH and the only thing keeping the PPSh out of the most ridiculous OP weapon is the fact that they didnt give it the 71 round drum. :D
Oh well, I should really play Starcraft more than Battlefield. Maybe I win some cash soon..
BFBC2 Vietnam: I expected better maps. M16 with accuracy bonus is so overpowered, it's retarded.. (really, PPSh doesn't even come close + unlimited ammo) Good thing they made the shotgun a tad stronger / more accurate though.
On December 19 2010 03:49 Disregard wrote: I like the fact they got put the radio in again, awesome! The registry is better than vanilla and the flame thrower is a total griefer weapon... Pretty fun though when you have a squad go commando with it, hilarity ensues.
This is fucking awesome. I loved rolling into battles on PC years ago with Fortunate Sun blasting, or mowing down people with Ride of the Valkryies
Prone in Vietnam was one of the things I was worried about. You get over it quick in BC2, but Vietnam is different. I hope to DL this over the weekend and play
On December 25 2010 00:27 heishe wrote: Wow, I bought Vietnam but I got fucking BAD since I last played this game. I'm getting steamrolled all the time.
Don't feel bad. Vietnam is a much more hardcore version of vanilla BC2, literally. The weapon damage is akin to that of Hardcore Mode in BC2 aside from Snipers. It's far easier to die in Vietnam.
I love bc2 and Vietnam is awesome also. Running medic with the xm22 ( think that's wht it's called) is great. You have your spray for cqb multiple targets and cN easily pick off targets cross Map. I just wish they made the heli a little less like glass. Its so fun to fly blasting music and raining down missiles. You can literally take down a half health heli with a pistol ( which is great when you're defending at least ^^
Nah man, I disagree about the chopper. It takes a beating when you have + armour and seeing as you can only shoot at it whilst it's got the rockets and two gunners it really is too good. When I gun on it half the time I don't even realise I'm getting the kills I am, they just keep popping up. I guess it may not be entirely the choppers fault because Phu Bai is a big, wide, flat map which when you're in the chopper you pretty much have something to shoot at constantly
Bought this game + vietnam recently. I just love sneaking around in the bushes with my m40 Feels so rewarding, sneaking behind enemy lines to a good hidden spot then helping your team by spotting all the incoming reinforcements or just sniping people from a flanking angle. The squad dynamic is nice too.
Bought the DLC for my PS3 and I'm loving it so far. I like it a little more than regular BC2 since Vietnam has more infantry combat. There is rush and squad deathmatch mode in BC2, but Vietnam really captures the chaotic battlefield that happened in real life. The maps in Vietnam are awesome and is accurate, even the Vietnamese language sounds legit unlike some games. The color saturation and visuals look stunning as always from DICE and has this old school feel to it. The weapons are alright, but the amount is kinda small. If snipers thought they were safe in BC2, then think again now that you're in the jungles of Vietnam.
On December 24 2010 10:32 slith wrote: M16 with accuracy bonus is so overpowered, it's retarded.. (really, PPSh doesn't even come close + unlimited ammo) Good thing they made the shotgun a tad stronger / more accurate though.
There really isn't a reason to use accuracy over the 25% damage boost ever.
Assuming you hit 25% more shots with the accuracy vs. 25% more damage, they will come out to be the same DPS... but that isn't the case since your first few shots will always be almost completely accurate with or without the accuracy bonus (spread x0.75), if that makes sense.
Damage is never important if you can place your hits well while dodging enemy bullets, take that advise from someone who gets banned for "cheating" often..
So far this game has been nothing but trouble. I either get kicked because of a high ping, or get kicked because punkbuster is an outdated piece of crap.
I'm considering buying this since it's like $6 on Steam right now. I heard it's like MW2, but you can destroy every single thing you can imagine in-game.
My question is if it's still played a lot on PC? I hate buying games to realize the multiplayer-base is next to dead
Just bought the game the other day. Played 1942 a few years ago and absolutely loved it and am loving this as well, besides the fact that I'm really bad at it
On December 26 2010 04:53 slith wrote: Shooting (and hitting) while strafing..
Damage is never important if you can place your hits well while dodging enemy bullets, take that advise from someone who gets banned for "cheating" often..
As in every shooter: Never stop moving.
Like I said, assuming you hit 25% more your overall DPS will remain the same as with magnum ammo, so 25% damage comes out ahead.
Also, getting banned for 'cheating' is nothing, considering how most players that play this game are really bad and think any KDR above 2 is not legit. It's a pub game due to its low skill ceiling.
On December 26 2010 13:04 GoShox wrote: Just bought the game the other day. Played 1942 a few years ago and absolutely loved it and am loving this as well, besides the fact that I'm really bad at it
What's played more, Vietnam or vanilla?
Hard to tell at the moment. Whenever I joined a game in Bad Company 2, it's a full house and vice versa.
On December 26 2010 06:30 gulati wrote: I'm considering buying this since it's like $6 on Steam right now. I heard it's like MW2, but you can destroy every single thing you can imagine in-game.
My question is if it's still played a lot on PC? I hate buying games to realize the multiplayer-base is next to dead
What you heard is WRONG. Bad Company 2 is nothing like MW2 and it's way better. The only similarities is that it's a FPS game, there are weapon selection and some perks.
On December 25 2010 22:16 slith wrote: Vietnam has auto aim for snipers, far easier to hit than in vanilla Bad Company 2. I smell console portage error.
(Head hitbox is like 3 times the size of the actual head)
On December 26 2010 06:30 gulati wrote: I'm considering buying this since it's like $6 on Steam right now. I heard it's like MW2, but you can destroy every single thing you can imagine in-game.
My question is if it's still played a lot on PC? I hate buying games to realize the multiplayer-base is next to dead
It's a very active game, don't worry. It's not even a year old and there are plenty of servers for both the vanilla game and the Vietnam expansion.
On December 26 2010 06:25 RoosterSamurai wrote: So far this game has been nothing but trouble. I either get kicked because of a high ping, or get kicked because punkbuster is an outdated piece of crap.
Sad to hear that, but apart from some issues with the EA servers after Vietnam's release, it's been running stable for most players. You should email the EA tech support or try the live chat to resolve your issues.
On December 26 2010 06:25 RoosterSamurai wrote: So far this game has been nothing but trouble. I either get kicked because of a high ping, or get kicked because punkbuster is an outdated piece of crap.
Just got this game from the Steam sale. The crappy laptop I travel with can't run it but I'm looking forward to playing it when I get back from winter break! Is there a server that TL members tend to frequent?
I just realized that although I'm rank 23 now and have unlocked everything there is for the engineer, I have no clue how tracers really work. I fire them all day long and happily receive points for doing so, but it seems as if my RPG/CG rockets don't seem to be guided toward the target when firing. Am I missing something?
Lord have mercy, BC2 is the one game I've always really enjoyed when I want to play FPS. I got bored of fps, now with Vietnam out, its actually ALOT better than I expected. I thought it was gonna be a boring reskin, but its actually really fun.
On December 27 2010 16:53 Disregard wrote: You need to wait for the launchers to lock-on to the target for the homing feature. When you lock-on you will see it as a highlighted target.
You need to use a cg/rpg, you need to look through the scope, you need to have it near the red square for several seconds and when it is locked on a distance will appear below the square. You can leave the scope for a short time and still have a homing missle but you will need to relockon (although I believe it is faster) in order to have homing missles.
About the huey in BC2V: Imo it ain't that strong. Most people just get killed because they fire on it. Only fire on it when you are in a blindspot, otherwise just hide under trees/in buildings. If you are playing conquest the mg of the tank is a very powerful weapon.
I'm not sure what to think about Vietnam so far, the maps seem unbalanced to me. Vantage point in Rush mode is the best example (attackers will have grenades in the spawn at the first objective). But really, there are insanely good spots on every map. I also feel that the terrain is way less destructible compared to BC2 (but in turn the framerate for me is a lot better).
i've never been so addicted to a game since diablo 2 lol.. this is just a ridiculously good game... i'm talking about vanilla btw haven't tried vietnam yet... the an 94 is opppppppppppp
Downloaded Vietnam. It takes forever on xbox. Good game though. The flamethrower is stupid fun. Spent a nice snowed in day playing the shit out of the game.
Hueys are definitely not overpowered. I sniped out several with rockets on the first day of playing. Supposedly theyre really weak vs rifle or machine gun fire as well. Like the guy two posts above said, as long as you're not a moron and don't engage it head on, you can make it work.
On December 27 2010 23:21 Hydrolisko wrote: i've never been so addicted to a game since diablo 2 lol.. this is just a ridiculously good game... i'm talking about vanilla btw haven't tried vietnam yet... the an 94 is opppppppppppp
You should have played before they nerfed the AN94's damage by 20%.
I still love it though... best looking + sounding rifle, though the iron sights are awful.
On December 25 2010 22:16 slith wrote: Vietnam has auto aim for snipers, far easier to hit than in vanilla Bad Company 2. I smell console portage error.
(Head hitbox is like 3 times the size of the actual head)
The head hitbox is huge. I agree. But I don't think there is any form of auto aim. Maybe they just count any 1 shot kill as a head shot for some reason. Using the m40 you still have to aim far above targets that are far away to hit them and you still have to aim ahead of running targets to hit them. I don't think it's easier to hit in any way. People dying from m40 shots above the waist is not necessarily something bad and doesn't make the game take less skill.
On December 28 2010 01:20 Hawk wrote: I didn't notice auto aim. And I only got a few sniper rounds in, but the hitboxes for the head didn't seem particularly huge.
People dying faster to bullets is better anyway. Hardcore mode with a bolt action is the best
I have almost only been playing recon so far with my m40. I have 800 kills so far and 40% of those are from head shots. As far as I can remember I have been trying to aim for the upper body most of the time. I guess I could have subconsciously aimed for the head, from playing too much Counter Strike in my youth, or maybe I just happen to hit the head a lot, since that's usually the only part of an opponent you see if he is hiding behind a rock or wall. It still feels a bit strange though.
Not that I have a problem with it. I don't think snipers are too strong or anything.
the hitboxes are slightly larger and since the game uses a strange netcode the hitboxes is displaced if your ping is too low/high (the standard setting is 65 ms if I am not mistaken, which is ofc too high for a lot of servers).
Thanks for all the feedback regarding tracer darts.
I'm actually amazed how the PC community is winning that race for The Battle of Hastings. Judging from what I'm seeing on the battlefield, I'm wondering where all those team actions are coming from - certainly not my games (except for my ammo/medic/spot/repairs).
The worst are medics; not only unable to drop a medkit when neccessary, but also braindead. The majority of medics will either revive me in the middle of enemy fire / mortar strike / helicopter attack / tank shelling, or will charge into the enemy lines with LMG blazing while ignoring the own team. Or they'll do both.
On December 27 2010 23:21 Hydrolisko wrote: i've never been so addicted to a game since diablo 2 lol.. this is just a ridiculously good game... i'm talking about vanilla btw haven't tried vietnam yet... the an 94 is opppppppppppp
You should have played before they nerfed the AN94's damage by 20%.
I still love it though... best looking + sounding rifle, though the iron sights are awful.
Dang it was 20% more dmg?... wtffff. I use it with the red dot on smaller maps and the 4x scope on bigger maps. I prefer it over the M16 or the M416. Awesome gun!
search for "ruebenhacker regiment" (have both conquest and rush), both servers have a class limit on sniper.
suchtlbude is another rush server, but sniping isn't possible at all (if you do a kill with a sniper rifle or a shotgun with sabot ammo you will get instabanned (automated)).
both are german, but english language is also spoken. oh and both are for vietnam. I do believe they also have bc2 servers, but I haven't checked/can't confirm this, but I would assume they also have the no/limit sniper script enabled
I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like
- max X snipers - no C4 vehicle - no RPG infantry
etc.
Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).
A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote: I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like
- max X snipers - no C4 vehicle - no RPG infantry
etc.
Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).
A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."
The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote: I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like
- max X snipers - no C4 vehicle - no RPG infantry
etc.
Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).
A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."
The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.
Ok, that certainly sucks even more. But at least your back's covered and some spotting will happen (unless they're braindead). And if they insist on being useless and just playing sitting duck, you can always change the server.
A "no-sniper-rule" won't stop bad players from being bad, they might screw up your team even more if they'd run around as assault/medic/engi.
On December 26 2010 04:53 slith wrote: Shooting (and hitting) while strafing..
Damage is never important if you can place your hits well while dodging enemy bullets, take that advise from someone who gets banned for "cheating" often..
As in every shooter: Never stop moving.
Like I said, assuming you hit 25% more your overall DPS will remain the same as with magnum ammo, so 25% damage comes out ahead.
But it is far easier to hit while running when using accuracy bonus. That's what I tried to say, and you try not to understand I guess. For people standing and shooting at each other, your statement is correct. But if you never stand still, this will never be an issue. Combined with the low skill level you mentioned, accuracy bonus + running is, in my opinion, far better than the damage bonus, as people for some reason can't hit moving targets anymore and always hold still for taking aim (opposed to Quake or Unreal Tournament players). This is your timing window you can abuse, the time they need to switch into aiming mode and get a "lock" on you is enough to spray 2 or 3 volleys at them, eventually killing them right with the first. Your cross-hair getting smaller when taking the accuracy bonus helps out a lot too. So does the fact that their screen is getting shaken when hit. This is also possible with the damage upgrade, but I find that I perform far better with the accuracy bonus when doing this. When using the AK-47 however, the damage upgrade is more important, as the damage output gets so insanely high it doesn't matter if half of your bullets miss. 2 Hits on the upper half of the body is usually enough, and you can get out about 5 shots before the spray really kicks in.
If fighting at extreme ranges (e.g. sniper vs assault rifle) you might be at an disadvantage, but then again you can just walk out of the line of fire and get closer.
On December 29 2010 04:26 Fruscainte wrote: I always roll Recon and go CQC. Usually with a Shotgun or G3.
I only use G3 with Assault class, as I find myself always low on ammo when fighting with it, same goes for Shotguns. Especially the automatic ones Saiga or USAS. The combination of single shot Shotguns with the Grach as sidegun and switching after every shotgun load fired is very fun.
I played some squad deathmatch (?) last night. 4v4v4v4 and it's pretty awesome. If you have a friend or two, give it a go because it's actually pretty sick, I could definitely see myself playing it a hell of a lot more
I can only speak for HQ, were magnum ammo beats decreased spray everytime. I don't know where you play, but I don't have a lot of problems hitting running targets. For SQ this might be valid, idk about that, don't play SQ.
Ah, okay, you play SQ, nevermind then
/e So I see I am not the only one who spams smoke grenades when he is annoyed by teamsnipers :D in Vietnam I just run infront of them till they get spotted/shoot me (most servers have a pretty low tk limit)
Recon is a good class, the problem is and always has been sniper rifles. They encourage people to sit as far away from objectives as possible. Most people can't hit shit when they snipe in BC2, so they get maybe 8-10 kills an entire game. They are effectively dead weight. Doubly so in Rush. Unfortunately in vietnam I can't spam them with smoke grenades
I think the problem is there's a certain allure to being a sniper. Be honest, the idea of being the impossibly patient "lone wolf" is pretty awesome.
Then again, I like to go red dot or ACOG on sniper rifles. I don't hard scope, I always quick scope or try to no scope.
I usually play assault, though. My general play style works better when I'm effective at short/medium range and gave some actual firepower. That or I just CG spam. >:O
On December 29 2010 04:11 Shockk wrote: I don't see the point in limiting a server to a certain number of snipers or completely banning sniping. I laugh every time I join a server with "rules" like
- max X snipers - no C4 vehicle - no RPG infantry
etc.
Sure it sucks if the other team is sniping a lot, but it's not as if you can't adapt. Either go recon yourself, take a moment to analyze movement paths before sprinting across open terrain, or just kill them with non-sniper weapons. Most people chosing recon aren't long range sniping gods, will easily become nervous under fire and can usually be taken out with an assault weapon + scope. At least that's true for me - I suck at sniping and only choose it when neccessary (spotting, mortar, too much action going on and I need a break after multiple deaths in close quarter combat).
A server limiting the number of snipers or enforcing other rules will just kill tactical play. "Hey, we need a recon for a mortar on that tank blocking the choke point" - "Sry, recon spots are full, one is afk, the rest has C4 equipped."
The problem isn't the enemy team having a bunch of snipers, it's your team being full of them and doing effectively nothing. Having a team of 8 snipers a 4 total medic/assault/engineer isn't going to be taking any objectives any time soon.
Ok, that certainly sucks even more. But at least your back's covered and some spotting will happen (unless they're braindead). And if they insist on being useless and just playing sitting duck, you can always change the server.
A "no-sniper-rule" won't stop bad players from being bad, they might screw up your team even more if they'd run around as assault/medic/engi.
Yeah, that's the thing. Most wookies are in fact braindead, and care only about the K/D ratio. They could be on defense, standing right next to an MCOM that is armed, and continue sniping.
No offense, but it sounds like a lot of TLers are the kind of recon teammates that I rage at. Anyone here like to play primarily assault/medic, drop lots of ammo/med kits, and focus on arming/disarming MCOMs?
On December 29 2010 06:54 Bona Fide wrote: No offense, but it sounds like a lot of TLers are the kind of recon teammates that I rage at. Anyone here like to play primarily assault/medic, drop lots of ammo/med kits, and focus on arming/disarming MCOMs?
I agree... Some of the comments are from those worthless recon class teammates. I personally use assault and engineer classes since I want to be in the action instead of watching the action. Besides recon class players, I hate medics who never revive or heal their teammates.
On December 29 2010 10:38 raheelp wrote: why is the skill level of this game so terrible.
I am in no way a great player but finding myself acing quite often :/
i wouldn't say terrible...just...it's kinda strange with the skill level, yeah... actually most of the guys who really play it a lot and are also good, play it on private servers, hardly ever public. so if you know how to play that game on a certain level, know the mechanics, you should be doing pretty good amongst the majority of the casual players. i played it for almost half a year from time to time (but good ), stopped for 2 months completely and after that started again and i just ripped through enemies...
On December 29 2010 06:54 Bona Fide wrote: No offense, but it sounds like a lot of TLers are the kind of recon teammates that I rage at. Anyone here like to play primarily assault/medic, drop lots of ammo/med kits, and focus on arming/disarming MCOMs?
I agree... Some of the comments are from those worthless recon class teammates. I personally use assault and engineer classes since I want to be in the action instead of watching the action. Besides recon class players, I hate medics who never revive or heal their teammates.
if you look for medics you should try some squadrushes...it's usually a pure medic madness, especially in the esl ladders and cups! pretty much the best guys are medics... i think, depending on the game mode, your team needs some of those "worthless" recons, especially the ones who know how to play it (who are also good offensive players, not just sitting back) but i agree...if you got a bad (gamedeciding) offensive core or a team mostly outta selfish recons you're pretty much screwed. as i said...the good people are usually playing on private servers in aranged teams. so if you're really looking for a chance to win, you should get those people, or into one of those teams. playing public on your own is pretty much, again depending in the game mode, just a matter of luck if you get into the team with the good or the not so good people...
bought the game for Christmas since i loved battlefield 2, and let me say that i love this one too. I think its a great game. Playing public is alright, but I'd much rather get into private matches. I played counter-strike competitively and loved it. How would i go about getting into a decent clan and getting some scrimming in? btw if anyone wants to play DMBJonesy- same as TL name
Would be awesome if some TL members got together and played in a squad. The teamwork goes such a long way.
Also, if you are looking for a group of players to just jump in and communicate/play with you should try the mumble server on the reddit BC2 community. www.reddit.com/r/badcompany2
You'll need the Mumble voice chat client, but when I knew no one else who played the game I just logged into the server and everyone was immediately friendly and awesome and a lot of great teamwork oriented games came out of it.
EDIT: My BC2 name is SharkLobster if you'd like an add.
I'd love to get some TL people in a group and playing
My name is OnlyInDreams, I'm new to the game and not very good at all haha. I pretty much only play medic just cause I like feeling like I'm helping out by healing people and reviving them
On December 29 2010 06:54 Bona Fide wrote: No offense, but it sounds like a lot of TLers are the kind of recon teammates that I rage at. Anyone here like to play primarily assault/medic, drop lots of ammo/med kits, and focus on arming/disarming MCOMs?
I switch between them all. All the more offensive stuff has its perks, but certain maps are begging for you to sit back and pop people in the domewop. I spot and defend and all that jazz too... recons aren't necessarily worthless
I'm still feeling out Vietnam, but in BC2 I was typically a medic when it was time to get serious and try to win a game. Engi too.
My group of ventrilo buddies and I went in on a 16 player ranked server, and have been playing in it usually in the afternoons/evenings (west coast US) and have been having a blast. We're still new to server configuration, and I'm still trying to get a good rotation of maps (currently I've got only the new maps in rotation). It's Hardcore, mostly rush maps.
I used to play this a lot on PC. Hella fun. I'm almost exclusively a recon though. I play it right though, I usually end up with 10+ pistol kills off the fun -1 shot sniper, if not killed, switch to revolver and tag once- type of play at medium to short range. I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE ith tough when the other teams is sniper heavy, because as an ex-competitive CS awper, I've yet to meet my sniping equal in BFBC2, I've put up some ridiculous 20 kill streaks as a recon on offense protecting bombs and such on Rush, plus mortars......ahhh, makes me want to play again . :-p
Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the EA store and do that. I considered using Steam, but I've had some really bad experiences with Steam (mostly my own fault so I'm not trying to discredit Steam) so I tend to avoid using it.
On December 30 2010 06:14 LazyMacro wrote: Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the EA store and do that. I considered using Steam, but I've had some really bad experiences with Steam (mostly my own fault so I'm not trying to discredit Steam) so I tend to avoid using it.
Unless your BF:BC2 is on Steam as well, you won't be able to purchase Vietnam via Steam anyway.
On December 30 2010 06:14 LazyMacro wrote: Thanks. I think I'm just going to use the EA store and do that. I considered using Steam, but I've had some really bad experiences with Steam (mostly my own fault so I'm not trying to discredit Steam) so I tend to avoid using it.
Unless your BF:BC2 is on Steam as well, you won't be able to purchase Vietnam via Steam anyway.
Oh, that's true. I always buy games in a store if I can.
On December 30 2010 05:09 heishe wrote: Vantage Point Rush is so imbalanced.. lol.
I never get past the first two points as attacker. The other team just activates a grenade rain and we have no chance of taking anything lol.
Yeah, that map is really bad/imbalanced, but if the attacker can get 2-3 good mortarstrikes at almost the same time it is doable (but ofc it still requires 200% more teamwork than the defending team).
I joined a server with only 2 players online because I wanted to get some flying training with the helicopters. Both players had a pretty high rank (47 and 49); however, neither of them ever joined the battle but (I guess) stayed in the kit selection screen all game long. This went on for a couple of rounds (other real players joined, some games were won, some were lost) until I left.
Did these guys just "park" their soldiers there to grab the points for a victory and possibly the best squad pid? Do people in the kit selection screen get points at all?
Yeah they do, but the rate to get points would be incredibly low (200 points for 5-10 minutes?) plus many servers have automated kicks for idle players.
I would guess they might have some investment in the server's popularity. By idling in the server, it never gets filtered as empty, increasing the chance players will join.
I just got to play Vietnam last night. It's SO MUCH FUN. I only played for maybe a half hour, but oh man it was a blast. The M16 sounds amazing, and the maps are a bit more fun, I think.
So yeah, having only played one map using one kit loadout I had a blast.
got this from the steam sale, been playing for the past couple days and it's pretty sick but btw, where are all the bf1942 style maps with planes and shiz? I miss those
On December 31 2010 06:10 Superiorwolf wrote: got this from the steam sale, been playing for the past couple days and it's pretty sick but btw, where are all the bf1942 style maps with planes and shiz? I miss those
heh, that's the one thing that's really been missing in every incarnation since then. i miss those big plane maps, i loved them... I forget the one on '42, but you started out across a bay at a nazi airport and had to bomb out four radio towers and a factory. Coolest. Map. Ever.
Most we get now is a ground-heavy armor group with a chopper or two per side.
Just a note about the lack of vehicles: At some point DICE said they wanted the "Bad Company" franchise to be more of a "light" version of the Battlefield franchise. That's why BC2 has no jets, bombers, or anything really above a helicopter.
BF3, I'm sure, will be a lot more hardcore. I can't wait for my beta invite. I pre-ordered MoH (which kind of sucks, tbh).
Holy crap, I was hearing stories of how butthurt they were about this whole Hastings thing but I thought it was exaggeration. So I went there, holy freaking crap. The console kids there are beyond butthurt. They are fucking raging, setting up entire polls of "DID PC CHEAT? SHOULD DICE REVERT THE COMPETITION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FAIR CHANCE?!" and crap like that.
They genuinely believe that the PC only had entire 32 man 24/7 boosting servers full of people shooting each other and medics constant healing to boost up that fast. They genuinely believe that it is impossible for someone to get it that fast. I've played BC2 on console, it's like playing CoD with these idiots. No one drops ammo, no one repairs, no one drops med kits, no one spots. That's why the consoles aren't getting it faster, not because of freaking cheats.
To top it all off, all these rant threads are full of kids going "PC GAMERS HAVE NO LIVES, THEY SPEND 3,000$ ON PC'S JUST TO RUN MODERN GAMES. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY WHEN NEW CARDS COME OUT EVERY MONTH THAT YOU HAVE TO UPDATE"
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How are people so stupid.
I know it's predominately trolls, but there are regulars there that BELIEVE THIS STUFF
On January 03 2011 06:26 DMBJonesy wrote: any good servers you guys play on? or would recommend for some good team play?
tacticalgamers.com, best one out that i have seen, can be annoying cuz their reserve slot kicks people. But if u get on their vent, most of them are 30+ year old guys who are super chill.
On January 03 2011 15:48 Fruscainte wrote: Fucking EA forums
Holy crap, I was hearing stories of how butthurt they were about this whole Hastings thing but I thought it was exaggeration. So I went there, holy freaking crap. The console kids there are beyond butthurt. They are fucking raging, setting up entire polls of "DID PC CHEAT? SHOULD DICE REVERT THE COMPETITION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FAIR CHANCE?!" and crap like that.
They genuinely believe that the PC only had entire 32 man 24/7 boosting servers full of people shooting each other and medics constant healing to boost up that fast. They genuinely believe that it is impossible for someone to get it that fast. I've played BC2 on console, it's like playing CoD with these idiots. No one drops ammo, no one repairs, no one drops med kits, no one spots. That's why the consoles aren't getting it faster, not because of freaking cheats.
To top it all off, all these rant threads are full of kids going "PC GAMERS HAVE NO LIVES, THEY SPEND 3,000$ ON PC'S JUST TO RUN MODERN GAMES. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY WHEN NEW CARDS COME OUT EVERY MONTH THAT YOU HAVE TO UPDATE"
fwejofijaepfaejwpfewjaoifaeowfjo
How are people so stupid.
I know it's predominately trolls, but there are regulars there that BELIEVE THIS STUFF
Well, all those assaults standing at the chokes darkening the sky with +1 and adrenal glands grenades and a row of medics behind them with their revive ready, does look like cheating that competition tbh :D
On Cao San Temple (or whatever) one carefully dropped upgraded medkit get's you 2k points, maybe more.
Vietnam is kinda different, more brutal and unforgiving. Better atmosphere. Don't know what you are looking for in a game. If you like the music, you'll like the game.
On January 03 2011 15:48 Fruscainte wrote: Fucking EA forums
Holy crap, I was hearing stories of how butthurt they were about this whole Hastings thing but I thought it was exaggeration. So I went there, holy freaking crap. The console kids there are beyond butthurt. They are fucking raging, setting up entire polls of "DID PC CHEAT? SHOULD DICE REVERT THE COMPETITION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FAIR CHANCE?!" and crap like that.
They genuinely believe that the PC only had entire 32 man 24/7 boosting servers full of people shooting each other and medics constant healing to boost up that fast. They genuinely believe that it is impossible for someone to get it that fast. I've played BC2 on console, it's like playing CoD with these idiots. No one drops ammo, no one repairs, no one drops med kits, no one spots. That's why the consoles aren't getting it faster, not because of freaking cheats.
To top it all off, all these rant threads are full of kids going "PC GAMERS HAVE NO LIVES, THEY SPEND 3,000$ ON PC'S JUST TO RUN MODERN GAMES. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY WHEN NEW CARDS COME OUT EVERY MONTH THAT YOU HAVE TO UPDATE"
fwejofijaepfaejwpfewjaoifaeowfjo
How are people so stupid.
I know it's predominately trolls, but there are regulars there that BELIEVE THIS STUFF
After reading about this i went to the EA forum and read the whole thread its funny how just PC gamers gets called hackers, nerds, wow some of you PC nerds have 500 hours of gameplay.. DO SOMETHING BETTER WITH YOUR TIME. holy *... All I gonna say is communication client + team = more points/wins and as for consoles there just butthurt cause they don't have teamwork . Still trolling it up
On January 03 2011 15:48 Fruscainte wrote: Fucking EA forums
Holy crap, I was hearing stories of how butthurt they were about this whole Hastings thing but I thought it was exaggeration. So I went there, holy freaking crap. The console kids there are beyond butthurt. They are fucking raging, setting up entire polls of "DID PC CHEAT? SHOULD DICE REVERT THE COMPETITION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FAIR CHANCE?!" and crap like that.
They genuinely believe that the PC only had entire 32 man 24/7 boosting servers full of people shooting each other and medics constant healing to boost up that fast. They genuinely believe that it is impossible for someone to get it that fast. I've played BC2 on console, it's like playing CoD with these idiots. No one drops ammo, no one repairs, no one drops med kits, no one spots. That's why the consoles aren't getting it faster, not because of freaking cheats.
To top it all off, all these rant threads are full of kids going "PC GAMERS HAVE NO LIVES, THEY SPEND 3,000$ ON PC'S JUST TO RUN MODERN GAMES. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU SAVE SO MUCH MONEY WHEN NEW CARDS COME OUT EVERY MONTH THAT YOU HAVE TO UPDATE"
fwejofijaepfaejwpfewjaoifaeowfjo
How are people so stupid.
I know it's predominately trolls, but there are regulars there that BELIEVE THIS STUFF
After reading about this i went to the EA forum and read the whole thread its funny how just PC gamers gets called hackers, nerds, wow some of you PC nerds have 500 hours of gameplay.. DO SOMETHING BETTER WITH YOUR TIME. holy *... All I gonna say is communication client + team = more points/wins and as for consoles there just butthurt cause they don't have teamwork . Still trolling it up
FPS players on console are so lol.
And imo there is no teamwork on pubs... just a lot of mindless fragging and fun Not like BC2 has a big competitive (scrimming/matches/etc) scene anyways. For the record I used to play BF2 competitively for a while. But pubbing in BC2 is loads of fun, and I always hated most of the overly competitive community for raging so much lolol
Still need to pick up Vietnam sometime soon, been hearing a lot of people say its good.
Hm, maybe because it's an expansion it doesn't count as a separate game.
If you add Battlefield Heroes to your EA account, it'll update your veteran status. EA's servers are notorious for being slow, unresponsive, and buggy WRT veteran status, so be patient.
One thing needs to be mentioned right now. EA's servers are once again fucking up majorly. For me and a couple others I've heard from, every time we enter the game and go on a server it fakes a stat reset and stops counting anything but kills, deaths and overall points, at least in the ingame stats.
What's funny is that all the external player stat sites that all draw the raw data from EA's servers all get it right. I'm fairly sure everything I do is recorded, but it's pretty damn annoying that I can't get to see if I'm close to a star on some weapon or whatever.
On the other hand I've been tearing shit up the past several days.
On January 04 2011 08:16 Divine-Sneaker wrote: One thing needs to be mentioned right now. EA's servers are once again fucking up majorly. For me and a couple others I've heard from, every time we enter the game and go on a server it fakes a stat reset and stops counting anything but kills, deaths and overall points, at least in the ingame stats.
What's funny is that all the external player stat sites that all draw the raw data from EA's servers all get it right. I'm fairly sure everything I do is recorded, but it's pretty damn annoying that I can't get to see if I'm close to a star on some weapon or whatever.
On the other hand I've been tearing shit up the past several days.
EA isn't exactly known for their ability to make a server work properly.
I did really well last night. One round I got just over 10k points using the M16. I got one gold star, but the rest of the points were from kills, headshots (I had a lot of those), pins, resupplies, etc. I was quite happy.
I've noticed that if I never look at my score at all and just play I do really well.
On January 04 2011 08:16 Divine-Sneaker wrote: One thing needs to be mentioned right now. EA's servers are once again fucking up majorly. For me and a couple others I've heard from, every time we enter the game and go on a server it fakes a stat reset and stops counting anything but kills, deaths and overall points, at least in the ingame stats.
What's funny is that all the external player stat sites that all draw the raw data from EA's servers all get it right. I'm fairly sure everything I do is recorded, but it's pretty damn annoying that I can't get to see if I'm close to a star on some weapon or whatever.
On the other hand I've been tearing shit up the past several days.
The problem are those external sites. (and EA's servers, obviously)
There were major issues with timeouts and server connections after the Vietnam launch; then the major stat sites were contacted by EA and temporarily shut down. Everything went fine then, until the sites were made available again (and are now working overtime) - and now we have server issues once again.
I'd rather have a 100% playable game right now than those external stats, as fun as they may be.
Hmmm ok I have a couple questions about vietnam. I see people using artillery but it doesnt show up in the sniper kit for me.. Im lvl 32 or something and had everything unlocked on normal bfbc2.
Also all my kits get reset every time I quit and rejoin...?
On January 04 2011 15:30 Blackhawk13 wrote: Hmmm ok I have a couple questions about vietnam. I see people using artillery but it doesnt show up in the sniper kit for me.. Im lvl 32 or something and had everything unlocked on normal bfbc2.
Also all my kits get reset every time I quit and rejoin...?
What gives?
If you're frequently switching between vanilla BC2 and Vietnam, the server will have additional issues updating your stats, possibly resulting in what you experience - you'll start with only level 1 weapons / gadgets available or with some equipment missing and randomly dis- an reappearing.
Might be a good idea to stick to one game mode for the time being to avoid this, at least that's what I did and it worked fine so far.
On January 04 2011 15:30 Blackhawk13 wrote: Hmmm ok I have a couple questions about vietnam. I see people using artillery but it doesnt show up in the sniper kit for me.. Im lvl 32 or something and had everything unlocked on normal bfbc2.
Also all my kits get reset every time I quit and rejoin...?
What gives?
If you're frequently switching between vanilla BC2 and Vietnam, the server will have additional issues updating your stats, possibly resulting in what you experience - you'll start with only level 1 weapons / gadgets available or with some equipment missing and randomly dis- an reappearing.
Might be a good idea to stick to one game mode for the time being to avoid this, at least that's what I did and it worked fine so far.
I have the same issue... but I'm never playing vanilla anymore (level 28 if I recall correctly).
Also, obviously I have to start vietnam after starting vanilla first. or is there some other way to do this?
On January 04 2011 15:30 Blackhawk13 wrote: Hmmm ok I have a couple questions about vietnam. I see people using artillery but it doesnt show up in the sniper kit for me.. Im lvl 32 or something and had everything unlocked on normal bfbc2.
Also all my kits get reset every time I quit and rejoin...?
What gives?
I couldn't figure it out, either. I Googled it to see if it's a glitch or something, and it sounds like recon classes have the mortar equipped by default, but it doesn't show up on the kit loadout screen. I guess you just have to scroll through your weapons to find it.
It is not in the loadout section because you can't change it. Just as you cant change the repair tool as an engineer. It is on slot number 5 if I am not mistaken.
I just got vietnam for my xbox and the game is very different from the ordinary bcbf2. Love it! If anyone else here is on the xbox for either standard bcbf2 or vietnam, do add me! Mic'n with TL guys is too good, cheers <3.
I don't play Vietnam that often, but my loadout looks similar. Except I choose vehicle armor most of the time since I'm too stupid to properly spot or react in time and it sometimes saves me if the tank can take an additional hit.
The PPSh, M40 and M16 sadly are must-haves in my opinion; PPSh is borderline OP, M40 damage is ridiculous and the M16 is better than the AK47 since the latter lack accuracy.
I only play hardcore so it really doesn't both me as the M40 is a OHK pretty much all the time regardless. But holy shit is that thing OP for normal play.
What do you guys think of the LMGs? I actually prefer the RPK recently because of its open sights. The M60's sights aren't that bad, but I've found a few times I get like, confused with them. I'm going to play with it more because it seems like the M60 is statistically superior.
On January 06 2011 10:45 raheelp wrote: I find that vsmoke is the most useful vechicle perk. Gets rid of those tracers and you can deploy it in tight situations and peace.
In addition you can rush to a flag and provide cover to infantry.
That's true. I've started using smoke recently and I never realized how awesome it can be. It's really pesky when you're on the ground trying to take out a heli and you can't make a tracer stick.
Is there any trick to hitting helis with rockets? I used the CG for so damn long I feel like I'm used to the speed of the rocket, and now that I've switched to the RPG-7 I can't hit much without a tracer. T_T
Edit: I wanted to share a couple of BC2 videos I came across. They're really, really good.
So I've played a lot more BC2 lately and I've reached a low regarding my motivation.
I've reached a halfway decent K/D with 1.3 and am close to rank 30 now, but I've yet to unlock pretty much everything for the medic. Playing medic is such a horrible experience, the guns are crap and you're either yelled at for reviving (and people dieing again, even though I try my best to not revive in the middle of fire just for an additional 50/80 points), or people fail to adapt to the fact that there's a medic that could cover a gradual assault on a position perfectly by healing. I'm close to 200.000 assault points but barely have 10.000 for the medic.
In general people just suck at strategy. There are maps where a single vehicle can decide the outcome (e.g. Oasis), if used properly (i.e. vehicle and infantry covering each other and slowly progressing across the map). But so many people just go "hurr durr tank!!!11" and suicide-drive at full speed in to the enemy camp, taking out maybe one and then having their ride blown apart.
I've had level 50 players joining in on my squads or vehicles only to realize that they sucked badly and apparently didn't pick up any skill during their 1000+ hours of play time. Just yesterday a loudmouthed bragging level 50 crashed several helicopters on Heavy Metal - not intentionally to grief, but just because he had zero skill at piloting.
I haven't seen any cheaters yet, but I'm sick and tired of the staggering amount of people not interested in fair play but only in griefing. Base raping happens on every second server, with admins happily engaging in it as well and kicking people that protest (this alone has happend half a dozen time over the last few days). So many servers have arbitrary, stupid rules - autokill on choosing CG, sniper spots limited to 2 / team, autokill if killing someone in a "safe zone" that almost covers half the map etc).
And of course there are the ridiculous connection issues. Sometimes my whole server list is greyed out, two minutes later it'll work again. Then I can't connect to my favorite server 4 times in a row although having played on it for two hours before that. I sometimes don't see servers my friends are playing on and vice versa.
Really, really frustrating right now. Maybe I should play some SC2 again.
This game can be super awesome and really fun but there are a TON of problems with it.
-Hacking -TKing -Imba/stacked teams (too many games are landslides -> baserape) -Lag -Hit Register fail -People who use explosives as main weapon such as Gustav, RPG, or 40mm. Basically they are huge bad fags who cant shoot so they do that.
-Shotgun slugs
Ok I'm gonna go on a rant here. Their are snipers in the game. They do a lot of damage, often 1 hit kill on hardcore, but they have bullet drop that varies with distance, relatively long reload times, each sniper is different aiming, and low ammo. They have different breath wavering on scope, the M95 can shoot through armored glass, etc.
A shotgun can be equipped by any class i think. The shotguns with slugs have NO bullet drop. One shot kill to the body. No wavering. Quick reload. Can have extended clips. Basically its a fully automatic sniper that any retard can use that is also good in close range, and if you are assault you can have infinite ammo, or medic heal. Its the biggest bullshit in the entire game, even worse than rocket/rpg/40mm grenade noobs. The worst part is these people think they are good.
I decided to try it out and even though I had only played sniper I could rack up kills in short range OR SNIPE with a SHOTGUN. In starcraft its like a mobile seige tank with no minimum range, in fact it does better in minimum range. The good thing is most of the people who use it are bad noobs who cant shoot so its only moderately annoying to get sniped by a shotgun from 200m+.
The other main problem is when u want to play with friends you cant. If you get lucky enough to be on the same team you probably getting baseraped. And teams get split apart a lot as well if they are uneven so you get tossed around constantly.
Oh wait I forgot to add SNIPERS. Every bad retard on the entire planet wants to be a sniper. Yes I do realize I almost only play this class. However these snipers are GARBAGE who ONLY snipe. They do NOT cap bases. They do NOT C4 vehicles. They do NOT cover allies. They do NOT strike fear into the enemy so they are pinned down and slowed. And they do NOT assist in any way shape or form. The worst part is they all stand together. So if I have snipers (or anyone) spawn on me they give away my position. However the other snipers are idiot snipers who SPAM shots and always missing giving away my location. Also people spawn on you, don't drop ammo/medkits and give away your position. I rarely join a squad unless my friend are on the same team. It doesn't have to be a squad either, lots of time other idiot bad snipers think its good for 2 people to cover the same exact spot. I often TK them as an "accident" so maybe they understand its bad to group up.
That brings me my next complaint. Idiots who jump in front of you. I have killed so many teammates because they RUN IN FRONT OF A SNIPER RIFLE. Sometimes they get mad and TK... when they are dumbasses who dont understand that a gun shoots bullets, especially a scoped one.
Overall its worth 7bucks on steam and a good game, but there are MANY problems and a lot I didnt list (interface sucks).
Playing the medic is all about knowing when to just let people die Shockk. If they run ahead let them get killed keep the slow pushers alive if you want to slow push. As a medic you need to dictate the flow of the game for your team as much as you can. It's not about simply shooting and healing people and more about controlling how they are forced to play. The reality is that medics are the worst class for K/D pure and simple. Any other class is better at killing and the other team should know to target you if they're any good at all. You make up for this because of how well you can enable the rest of your team. But you can't be everyone's personal spawn point. If you watch the back of your team's best player and only focus on supporting him you're going to let him play at his maximum potential and that's better for your team then you trying revive the bottom five players over and over.
Also focus on what your guns are good at, Engineer's weapons make them the best at supporting tanks and it's very straight forward: Heal tank, kill enemy tanks, and kill people trying to kill tank that's all. The medic isn't so simple, but there are still things that a machine-gun can do better than anything else. Covering fire is an underrated ability. Try luring enemy fire or making people have to hide behind objects while your team mates move forward. If they don't shoot at your team you don't need to even pull out the paddles. You can prevent enemy movement, If you want nobody to leave a building alive just point a machine gun at the door. Don't forget you have a pistol and in close range you should always pull it out. For clearing buildings pistols are the great equalizers of this game.
Don't expect other people to make good decisions. If you do your job your team will do better. Value other players lives as less important than your own when considering reviving after all if you die nobody will revive you but if you live you can revive others. You can't control other players directly, you can only hope people will recognize that you're doing a good job and will follow your lead.
While I was in europe over christmas I got a chance to play on some of those european servers, and I have to say you're absolutely right. The american servers are so much better and typically only have rules for no foul language and base raping. I'm probably biased on this and maybe I just didn't find any of the good servers, but I think the northamerica scene is superior by leaps and bounds to anything in europe. I don't know, you just have to roll with the crap sometimes.
Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
Hardcore has its root from games like delta force 1, which came out in 1996 I think. Hardcore is also very balanced (dont like snipers? Put on armor) and it simply discourge people running around like idiots.
Please note that I am merely defending my preferred game mode. Dont attack other people's preference, please.
So I decided to give myself a challenge when I read Sirlin's article on how to play to win, and decided to explore various build in BFBC2.
My playstyle: I hate to die. For some reason, I don't even mind dying in other games, but dying in BFBC2 gets to me. I also hate sniping. - as a result, I usually prefer to be a medic support squad in a corner and act as a respawn point. I do move around after each kill. - I also play in hardcore exclusively
New kit for 1/10/11: WWII hero medic
Medic, garand, M1911, light weight, body armor.
Garand allow you to two shot people up to 40-50 meters, clear ironsight with no 4X force yourself to stay within the >30 damage range of garand, Ironsight also ADS quicker than the 4X, allow fast CQB kill. - armor allow you to tank sniper round in hardcore unless it's a headshot.
Playstyle: constant movement and flanking around the periphery of a capture point.
First, I determine success of each build by my KD, as I am a conquest player
Verdict of the last build - Does not work, body armor and light weight limit your range of engagement to close range, which you are outgunned.
Build day 2
M16 + 4X, body armor + smoke nade
Verdict: may work well with medic support in a squad, does not work well solo - M16 is too loud and too weak to be used alone
Build day 3
This build need a change of play style, instead of being very campy, You need to run around and flank aggressively, then stay behind enemy line and harass relentlessly. - This style only works with silenced weapons
UMP45 + red dot (for faster ADS, I think) + mp443 + landmine + armor, the flanker.
Some finer points of game play I've discovered since I started doing this.
I now run two characters to test effect of different play style
Character 1: Mr.Tier one - Basically I run this character to maximumize K/D with emphasis on never dying. However I do not use sniper rifle because I do not quite want to get into the counter sniping game with this guy
Character 2: Mr. Grunt - he runs around and help the team to the max, complete objectives and generally very "rushy"
Key points I've learned
1. Function of body armor - in vanilla BC2, body armor allow you to tank a sniper round. This is especially important for rush based characters. The ability to take a sniper round is critical on HC, and I am willing to choose it over mag ammo.
2. Function of red dot - I used to exclusively run with 4X scope, however it seens like 4X scope has a longer zoom in time and has increased recoil felt, certain guns (F2000) perform much better with the red dot due to lack of screen obstruction
3. On optics vs. non-optics. - Some argue that they can adapt to a doo-dooty sight, I beg to differ. At the highest level of competition, time to aim is brief and you must maximumize your aim advantage. Additionally, in an competitive environment, persumably you have good ammo support, making extra loadout specs non essential.
4. You must adapt to battle situation! - Most important. For example, for my tier 1 EBR build, EBR suffers a lot from lack of mag ammo, but if you found yourself getting sniped a lot, get armor. So you come into the game with mag ammo, and switch to armor upon your first sniper death.
Build Day 4: For team players that like to rush
F2000, red dot, armor, any pistol (I prefer grach for its extra reserve) - Note, I am playing this on a new account, so I do not have mag ammo nor armor nor decreased spread perk. It seems like this gun would work very well with decreased spread for the extra hip firm oomph. it may even be more powerful than armor since you are so mobile
Play style: run around and pick off defenders as you are moving. F2000's incredibly fast ROF allow you to react to opponents and mess up their aim
Build Day 5: designated marksman
Works for pretty much all class, I use medic
M14 EBR + 4X + mag ammo/armor + M93R
This build is very strong at range, but very weak in CQB. M93R will hopefully make up that extreme short range weakness.
Day 5: infilitrator
This is on an account that I have where I prioritize not dying over anything else. Contrary to popular thinking, you die a lot as a sniper if you want to maintain a decent KD still.
The only way to not die with a lot of kills, is to infilitrate behind enemy lines and stay on the move, disrupt enemy spawn as much as possible.
I've came to the realization that the only viable infilitator weapon in HC is a silenced one, due to the lack of tracer and muzzle flash (tracer are often used to trace origin of gunfire, been doing this myself since delta force 1)
Additionally, since you are an infilitrator and operate alone (cant be in a squad because most people will give you away), you wont get healed nor resupplied. health is not an issue (you wont be seen) but ammo is a huge issue. Sure you can get ammo box off people you slain, but those opportunities are few and inbetween - even if you have an experienced squad, the assualt cant even help you, he has no silenced weapons and cant be doing the same duty as you.
So, here is a build that emphasis stealth, disruption and ammo
Scar-L (30 + 90 ammo, maximum of all power carbines, I choose the power carbine because you want more "kills" in your ammo count))
4X attachment
mag ammo (again, more kills with your ammo)
landmine (disruption)
Side arm: M9
Choice in pistol warrant some consideration, because it will take place over your primary after you run out of ammo, it needs to be a dependable weapon from short to mid ranges.
I am excluding M93R in this discussion because it simply is not a dependable midrange pistol (more like a OH doo-doo waterhose, and also, excluding the rex because it's very loud and reloads too slowly for a stressful situation such as out of ammo)
I am choosing M9 for the amount of kills packed in its magazine. M93R could also be viable if you elect to be very mobile and aggressive after you run out of ammo.
If you're going by Sirlin standards, then you're being a scrub using those setups, sorry to say. There are some fairly clear winners in each category of weapon types which are all just the most efficient(SMG's being the most unclear).
However, you always got to make up for the fact that some people just handle some types of weapons better than others which is another variable.
ADS is minimalistically faster with RDS/Irons than 4X, but unless you have a huge monitor or eagle eyes 4X can often times help a lot. I always use them with assault rifles/SMG's unless I'm spawning with a specific objective with my kit.
A lot of arguing goes about using irons for everything is the most efficient, since you can then either run 10% faster or have more ammo. Ammo to me makes no sense since you simply pick up a kit from a dead enemy if you're dry, but Lightweight can evidently make a difference in some situations.
The link contains all the data you need to create to most efficient setups for anything, and information about most game mechanics that might be unclear.
Havent been able to play for days now. Cant find a single server in the browser and when i press the play now button i end up in empty servers. Something ive missed? Like a sceduled maintenance or something?
On January 26 2011 11:27 MHT wrote: Havent been able to play for days now. Cant find a single server in the browser and when i press the play now button i end up in empty servers. Something ive missed? Like a sceduled maintenance or something?
The "Play Now" button is useless. Forget it's even there.
Make sure your search settings actually are able to find servers; some settings will actually prevent you from ever finding a server (like checking "EA servers").
On January 26 2011 11:27 MHT wrote: Havent been able to play for days now. Cant find a single server in the browser and when i press the play now button i end up in empty servers. Something ive missed? Like a sceduled maintenance or something?
The "Play Now" button is useless. Forget it's even there.
Make sure your search settings actually are able to find servers; some settings will actually prevent you from ever finding a server (like checking "EA servers").
It looks like this for me:
Thats it! Must have accidentally checked EA server somehow and thought its always been like that. Stupid of me not to try this, thx for the help!
I'm on the other side of the boat conerning hardcore vs normal bc2 mode, i simply cannot play with all the little spotted marks over my enemies and a minimap and kill cam, almost every single kit I play with I put on armor (except engi, put bullets on him) to live through sniper fire.
I find it alot of fun being pinned down by sniper fire, patiently watching where the bullets are coming from, throwing a few m20 nades to provide some sort of suppresing fire and running like mad with the hope to flank my opponents (sometimes i manage to do a sneaky flank and take out 3-4 players at once)
The destructable cover/buildings is also amazing, blows CoD games out of the water for sure (at least for me)
So does anyone wants to play with some TL guys? I'm getting sick of the publics where half the players don't know what to do or how to communicate. Would be nice to play as a squad once. Someone Europe based and with a mic is preferred pm me for my steam account.
On January 28 2011 02:47 eXiled wrote: So does anyone wants to play with some TL guys? I'm getting sick of the publics where half the players don't know what to do or how to communicate. Would be nice to play as a squad once. Someone Europe based and with a mic is preferred pm me for my steam account.
i would give it a try pm is out!
oh btw...i just read that the 2nd part of their great stats-and-other-issues-solving-project (or whatever it is called ) is gonna go down for pc today (i think ps3 and xbox360 and parts of their pc system was last tuesday...)
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
yeah no
HC is where the best people play. you get punished for running out into open spaces, shitty players cant just get killed to spot a sniper's location, team damage is on so you can't just spam rockets or grenades on rush attack if someone is trying to plant, etc etc.
this is like arguing that fastest map ever takes more skill than blizz maps in starcraft. just... no. i mean the biggest tipoff that you dont know what youre talking about is that you compared it COD of all things... BF is similar to that game only in that both use guns. it's totally different gameplay.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
yeah no
HC is where the best people play. you get punished for running out into open spaces, shitty players cant just get killed to spot a sniper's location, team damage is on so you can't just spam rockets or grenades on rush attack if someone is trying to plant, etc etc.
this is like arguing that fastest map ever takes more skill than blizz maps in starcraft. just... no. i mean the biggest tipoff that you dont know what youre talking about is that you compared it COD of all things... BF is similar to that game only in that both use guns. it's totally different gameplay.
I've played a bit of HC every now and then and my main concern with it is that it totally kills what the makes the game fun for me, i.e. the fast-paced combat. I have no problem with the increased difficulty due to less health and all the other limitations, but I loathe how slow most HC rounds are played.
If I'd enjoy re-enacting the battle for Verdun then HC would probably be awesome, but I don't see the point in dragging games out to a ridiculous length and overly rewarding campers. Because that's what happens. Pretty much all HC games I've played were either dominated by a cleverly hidden sniper or a team based around medics, literally forcing stalemates or excruciatingly slow advances on the map. This may be more "realistic" or "hardcore" and will probably appeal to some, but it's not how I like my BC2. It's a shooter after all and not a jungle-crouching simulation.
I stopped playing a while ago because public players are just too stupid. It annoys me so much to lose/get owned just because the community/normal players are retarded. Totally losing? Well I guess I have to be the 10th sniper in my team. Die while spawning on a teammate? Try again. 10 times. I am not winning? Leave server.
Horrible, just horrible. Even worse are the players that think they are good when the their team has 5-8 more players and they leave as soon as they don't win anymore. The community is what completely kills this game (clans are also most of the time really really bad) which is too bad because aside from some balance issues it was the best shooter in years.
On February 06 2011 01:49 Rflcrx wrote: I stopped playing a while ago because public players are just too stupid. It annoys me so much to lose/get owned just because the community/normal players are retarded. Totally losing? Well I guess I have to be the 10th sniper in my team. Die while spawning on a teammate? Try again. 10 times. I am not winning? Leave server.
Horrible, just horrible. Even worse are the players that think they are good when the their team has 5-8 more players and they leave as soon as they don't win anymore. The community is what completely kills this game (clans are also most of the time really really bad) which is too bad because aside from some balance issues it was the best shooter in years.
The absolute worst part is when the game starts, they don't even wait for people to hop onto the vehicles, they just take off, leaving like 5 people to run to the frontlines...Oh, I play battlefield 1943 lol, but probably same thing in the newer games.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
Hardcore is the only mode that is any good. Kill cams, red triangles giving away enemies, and 50 bullets to kill is terrible.
Id rather use my eyes to find enemies and not fire a full clip into someone to kill them.
Also snipers would be useless on normal since 3 of the bolts cant 1 hit kill people w/o body armor. As it is sniping isnt viable in hardcore since every other weapon is just as good or almost as good as a sniper while being MUCH easier to use and no bush giving you away...
Just played with a couple friends again today and when we joined, our team turned from terribly mediocre and unable to make progress to rolling the opposition. I managed to get kicked by a server automation for when you have too high a ratio of kills per minute, I mean seriously.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
Hardcore is the only mode that is any good. Kill cams, red triangles giving away enemies, and 50 bullets to kill is terrible.
Id rather use my eyes to find enemies and not fire a full clip into someone to kill them.
Also snipers would be useless on normal since 3 of the bolts cant 1 hit kill people w/o body armor. As it is sniping isnt viable in hardcore since every other weapon is just as good or almost as good as a sniper while being MUCH easier to use and no bush giving you away...
Its a matter of preference I guess, personally I like the faster paced non-HC games. Relying on red triangles is not a good idea and guns depend on which part of him are you aiming at.
Sniping is still very powerful though, as soon as you get used to the bullet trajectory of a certain rifle you can get head shots regularly.
If I play HC I'm sure I wouldn't get far since I'm a bad camper and I only have limited time to play. TKs + Camping + Serious people etc... It might feel more like work.
It's not a matter of preference, Hardcore is a game with less depth that rewards gimmicky play, what is a matter of preference is if you like that sort of stuff.
It's not worth going for head shots in Hardcore to the same extent that it is in normal mode. That alone should end discussion. More health rewards better play. When only one bullet kills a guy that means that every gun battle turns into a best of one match between players. A noob player can get a lucky shot and kill you in a best of one, not so in a best of 99. It's harder to kill players in normal mode. Thinking Hardcore is the better game because it takes less bullets is like thinking fastest is better than 1v1 because "it's so fast!"
There are so many elements of the game that just get turned off in Hardcore (I could make fastest comparisons all day) like healing player, resupplying, and motion mines. Hell, the number of bullets in your clip matters more in normal. These are elements that enrich play not make it simpler.
Battlefield is a team game, and when you have 16 people on each team it's really hard to communicate simple things like enemy position. That's why those red triangles and the mini-map are so important. Getting spotted is a huge thing. There are things you can do in Hardcore mode and get away with just because you won't get spotted. You can snipe people all day from the same spot with no kill cams in Hardcore mode because nobody knows where you shot them from, but in normal kill cams mean you have to move and you can't just abuse one spot all day.
Don't be fooled by the skull, you can put a skull sticker on a girl scout uniform, but it won't make you a bad ass for wearing it.
If you don't do headshots in HC and you still manage to kill alot chances are you are not playing vs good players. Headshots are highly important in allmost every situation, except for really close combat with powerful weapons (exactly like in SC mode).
Also, if you can't spot a sniper in HC mode, chances are you kinda belong in SC mode. It is not that hard, really. You should give HC a try, you don't seem to understand it at all. It might be frustrating at first when you approach the mode like you approached SC, running without cover, don't listening, just watching for red triangles etc. but onces you get the hang of it you notice that HC is way more rewarding as it takes way more skill.
On February 13 2011 21:43 Rflcrx wrote: If you don't do headshots in HC and you still manage to kill alot chances are you are not playing vs good players. Headshots are highly important in allmost every situation, except for really close combat with powerful weapons (exactly like in SC mode).
Also, if you can't spot a sniper in HC mode, chances are you kinda belong in SC mode. It is not that hard, really. You should give HC a try, you don't seem to understand it at all. It might be frustrating at first when you approach the mode like you approached SC, running without cover, don't listening, just watching for red triangles etc. but onces you get the hang of it you notice that HC is way more rewarding as it takes way more skill.
lol...i think Fraidnots post was pretty much about that it isn't that much a matter of skill. what you play is more a matter what you like better and what you're more comfortable with...both, hc and sc have their advantages and disadvantages...
Generally, I would argue that SC > HC in terms of skill, but that's because they take different skillsets. If the BC2 engine was optimized like the source engine, then it would reward fast reaction and flick shots, but it isn't. In HC any noob can get the first shot on you and win by default, whereas in SC you can always run to cover, abuse regen, get the advantage by having better recoil-control, etc. That's just how I see it- to me, hardcore is just the mode you play on until you get Magnum Ammo. I get much better results in SC. Before you flame me, I don't think that because you play hardcore that it reflects negatively on your personality and that we should have a blood feud.
As for the game itself, let's add eachother and play! My id is Twistacles. I don't play very much lately, since my motherboard died, but once I get it back... :D
On February 13 2011 21:43 Rflcrx wrote: If you don't do headshots in HC and you still manage to kill alot chances are you are not playing vs good players. Headshots are highly important in allmost every situation, except for really close combat with powerful weapons (exactly like in SC mode).
Also, if you can't spot a sniper in HC mode, chances are you kinda belong in SC mode. It is not that hard, really. You should give HC a try, you don't seem to understand it at all. It might be frustrating at first when you approach the mode like you approached SC, running without cover, don't listening, just watching for red triangles etc. but onces you get the hang of it you notice that HC is way more rewarding as it takes way more skill.
I didn't say that you don't need to get headshots, only that the importance of headshots is dramatically reduced. There are plenty of situations where you have to get a headshot in normal if you want to kill someone, like sniping with a bolt action. That's just not the case in HC where it's better to aim for center of mass since it increases your likelihood of hitting. You can aim for the knee caps and let recoil do all the work. That just doesn't produce the same results as in SC.
I belong in SC mode and so do you, because it's a better game. Yes it's not that difficult to follow a sniper's bullet contours back to where they shot it from if you're alive. When you're dead because they shot you once with the VSS, it's a bit harder to do that.
I know HC really isn't that hard that's what I've been trying to point out, it's easier to kill someone, conversely that makes it harder to stay alive. All those elements of listening and running with cover are still in Normal. If you run out in the open in normal you get spotted and suddenly sixteen guys shoot at you and you get killed.
You talk about HC taking more skill but I don't see it. Camping doesn't take skill. It doesn't. Any scrub can go to a corner squat down and point his gun at the door. HC favors camping, you move up to a position point your gun, wait for some one to round the corner, you shoot them before they see you and move up to the next camping spot, that's how you play HC, that doesn't take considerable skill. I don't know why anyone would consider a game play mode that favors camping to be one that requires more skill.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
yeah no
HC is where the best people play. you get punished for running out into open spaces, shitty players cant just get killed to spot a sniper's location, team damage is on so you can't just spam rockets or grenades on rush attack if someone is trying to plant, etc etc.
this is like arguing that fastest map ever takes more skill than blizz maps in starcraft. just... no. i mean the biggest tipoff that you dont know what youre talking about is that you compared it COD of all things... BF is similar to that game only in that both use guns. it's totally different gameplay.
I've played a bit of HC every now and then and my main concern with it is that it totally kills what the makes the game fun for me, i.e. the fast-paced combat.
I've played a bit of Normal every now and then, and my main concern with it is that it totally kills what makes the game fun for me (killing people) and that is stopped by it taking 18 body shots to kill somebody with an Assault RIfle at 30 feet.
That argument for me doesn't make any sense. Sure, it takes more shots than in HC if you assume a generalized damage of 16,7 per bullet which with magnum ammo is the basically the standard.
But really, if you're so good with constantly headshotting, it really only takes 5 shots to kill someone, which with most weapons makes you good for a good 3 kills for each magazine if you're not caught blindsided or anything like that.
The only time I get annoyed with the amount of bullets it takes to kill, is when I suffer from lag. If my target is rubberbanding forth and back while I'm trying to shoot him then the sheer amount of bullets it takes to kill will sometimes mean I won't get it. But then again, you can hardly blame that on the game mode.
On January 15 2011 01:42 Fraidnot wrote: Blitzkrieger, don't play on hardcore. I know it says "HARDCORE" but I could put that label on a Martha Stewart DVD and it wouldn't make it any better. Hardcore is less balanced and it rewards to many stupid things like those snipers you complain about. Kill cams and minimaps keep players honest and makes for a better game(note the fact that I use the word game and not COMBAT SIMULATOR!!!). In my humble opinion, hardcore is for people who like Call of Duty, abusers, and xbox gamers.
yeah no
HC is where the best people play. you get punished for running out into open spaces, shitty players cant just get killed to spot a sniper's location, team damage is on so you can't just spam rockets or grenades on rush attack if someone is trying to plant, etc etc.
this is like arguing that fastest map ever takes more skill than blizz maps in starcraft. just... no. i mean the biggest tipoff that you dont know what youre talking about is that you compared it COD of all things... BF is similar to that game only in that both use guns. it's totally different gameplay.
I've played a bit of HC every now and then and my main concern with it is that it totally kills what the makes the game fun for me, i.e. the fast-paced combat.
I've played a bit of Normal every now and then, and my main concern with it is that it totally kills what makes the game fun for me (killing people) and that is stopped by it taking 18 body shots to kill somebody with an Assault RIfle at 30 feet.
I think you have other worries than the pros and cons of Normal/HC if it takes you 18 (body) shots to kill someone 10 m away.
I realize it was an exaggeration, but you couldn't have picked a worse one.
On February 14 2011 06:29 Fraidnot wrote: You talk about HC taking more skill but I don't see it. Camping doesn't take skill. It doesn't. Any scrub can go to a corner squat down and point his gun at the door. HC favors camping, you move up to a position point your gun, wait for some one to round the corner, you shoot them before they see you and move up to the next camping spot, that's how you play HC, that doesn't take considerable skill.
Simply said: No.
This is not how you play HC. You _cannot_ win with camping, neither as attacker, nor as defender. You have to be way more careful than SC as bullets can actually kill you, not just poke at you, but if you simply "camp" you will not win. You have to take keypoints and hold them. Constantly changing cover while covering your sector (this means: not camping but pointing your gun into the enemy directions). If you stay/camp too long the enemy can advance too far too quickly. HC is all about position and skill, you simply can't run around into 15 enemies. At the same time you cannot hide. If you camp you might get a positiv k/d, but you won't win the match.
On February 14 2011 06:29 Fraidnot wrote: You talk about HC taking more skill but I don't see it. Camping doesn't take skill. It doesn't. Any scrub can go to a corner squat down and point his gun at the door. HC favors camping, you move up to a position point your gun, wait for some one to round the corner, you shoot them before they see you and move up to the next camping spot, that's how you play HC, that doesn't take considerable skill.
Simply said: No.
This is not how you play HC. You _cannot_ win with camping, neither as attacker, nor as defender. You have to be way more careful than SC as bullets can actually kill you, not just poke at you, but if you simply "camp" you will not win. You have to take keypoints and hold them. Constantly changing cover while covering your sector (this means: not camping but pointing your gun into the enemy directions). If you stay/camp too long the enemy can advance too far too quickly. HC is all about position and skill, you simply can't run around into 15 enemies. At the same time you cannot hide. If you camp you might get a positiv k/d, but you won't win the match.
Camping is not a bad strategy as much as I hate to admit it. (More so for defenders in rush maps, but still very viable in conquest) If you can use the map to gain tactical advantage and manage to not overstay your welcome you're always going to have position against players coming against you. Obviously your entire team can't do it, it's map dependent and I was over exaggerating the extent to which it is used while down playing the skill in picking camping locations. Still camping is hard to combat when a capable player sets up shop and when a player does so on a keypoint it becomes very hard to take that location. You can't deny that HC favors camping.
You make sound as if in SC you can just run around into 15 enemies. That position and skill simply don't matter, but if they don't matter what matters then? Luck? Do you think you win in SC because you have slow reaction times and you walk around in the open? When you go into a 1on 1 situation ,the longer fights favor the more skilled player, because you'll have more opportunities to use your superior skills to gain advantage.
I've played my fair share of hardcore in this game and I will not lie, it is a fucking joke.
The players that play that shit all day sit around and don't move, and wait for people to walk into their crosshairs. All it takes is for me to find a slightly different angle and cap them across the map with an M1911. The fact that I can 1hit anyone with just about any weapon in the game is hilarious because I can pull off some of the most gimmicky shit known to man and still get away with it. And when I can't, it becomes a sniper snore fest... scanning window to window, hill to hill to find a few black pixels that i don't recognize and then clicking on when my goliath to see what happens. If that's your cup of tea, then have fun with it
While I understand the community has a demand for a hardcore mode, BC2 is designed to be played in softcore. The weapons, maps and the game's features itself are all balanced and designed accordingly.
Hardcore is sort of entertaining for a while but it has zero depth compared to the actual game.
1. It removes the differences between most weapons (clip size/damage don't matter when its a OHK) 2. It removes the class abilities (resupply and healing don't matter when its a OHK, recon spotting is removed)
If you're complaining about it taking 30 bullets to kill someone then you are doing it drastically wrong, weapons are still very effective, they just actually have differences....you are going to be at a disadvantage engaging with an SMG at 650m, and sniping actually takes some skill hitting multiple shots on a moving target and getting headshots.
Hardcore is still fun sometimes but it gets old really fast due to it basically just removing game elements.
On February 14 2011 17:38 sob3k wrote: 1. It removes the differences between most weapons (clip size/damage don't matter when its a OHK) 2. It removes the class abilities (resupply and healing don't matter when its a OHK, recon spotting is removed)
This is just untrue. You should actually play HC for a time. There are still huge difference between weapons. If you have a F2000 and I have a XM8 and we fight on medium distance you will have a huge problem. Almost every weapon has advantages over other weapons depending on the situation. Resuppling is important as well, especially for engineers and snipers, and healing? Healing is one of the strongest advantages one can have in any situation. Because you don't autoheal having 5 hp is really dangerous as absolutelty everything can kill you. A group of 2-4 medics standing on healthpacks and have some cover is a huge strongpoint which is very hard to kill. Healing is highly important. Even spotting works, as you still have the map (oh snap that works?!) and can spot just as you can in SC. Only difference is you have no silly HUD like you are some sort of robot.
Regarding camping: If you camp and you play against a skilled squad you won't have a chance. You may get ~2 people but the third will just stomp you. But even a single assault can own you as grenades will give away your position, making it very hard to stay hidden in close combat maps like Oasis. Open maps make it even worse for campers because there are so many angles that you will catch a bullet in your back. It is like I said, if your entire team camps and doesn't hold its sector it will lose. If 1 or 2 players camp they may get a positiv k/d but they will contribute allmost nothing to the game. The only time camping is really strong is on maps which have really imbalanced points and no vehicles, but this only happens on Vietnam (Hill comes to mind), because in normal bc2 you can just blast away any cover (rocks are good cover but can simply be suppressed with grenades, this doesn't work on the spots on Hill though).
I can understand that most points are hard to see if you play SC were the HUD tells you everything and you don't need to use your head to get all the information but really, play HC for a while before you make statements like "healing doesn't matter".
If I play hardcore, it's sniper paradise and freaking pistols 2 shot you so any old retard can just spray and it's basically who has the best connection.
If I go onto normal, guns take 20 shots to kill someone unless you get every shot as a headshot.
I get really frustrated playing this game. I picked it up at christmas when steam had it's big sale, so I'm no pro by any means. If I play normal mode, it seems that it takes too many bullets to kill people, and the guy with the MG36 or the AUG always kills me. If I try to play hardcore mode, I just always get killed by the snipers immediately after spawning. So I'm kind of losing enthusiasm for this game =/
On February 24 2011 11:10 Fruscainte wrote: I dont know what to fucking play anymore
If I play hardcore, it's sniper paradise and freaking pistols 2 shot you so any old retard can just spray and it's basically who has the best connection.
If I go onto normal, guns take 20 shots to kill someone unless you get every shot as a headshot.
Try taking the body armor spec. It will let you *usually* tank a sniper shot. Obviously if they have a m95 you're screwed anyways. Combine body armor with medics for the most rage :D.
On February 25 2011 09:46 RoosterSamurai wrote: I get really frustrated playing this game. I picked it up at christmas when steam had it's big sale, so I'm no pro by any means. If I play normal mode, it seems that it takes too many bullets to kill people, and the guy with the MG36 or the AUG always kills me. If I try to play hardcore mode, I just always get killed by the snipers immediately after spawning. So I'm kind of losing enthusiasm for this game =/
Try normal mode but don't hold down the mouse when firing you have to do short bursts like in CS. The MG36 is what I what deem the slightly OP area same as the AN94, M60 and Mp443 so expect to lose out to people like that. The AUG however isn't very good and I find that the XM8 is better. Try to find things that appeal to you. If you like sniping go do that, if like to run around 1shotting people with the M24 and c4ing people then do that .
Other fun things you can try are using the AT4 (TOW missile) to kill people and helicopters (which is a serious skill). Use the 40mm without explosives, red dot m95 for halarious kills, only knifing (you will need armour and lightweight and constantly serve) and shooting Gustavs out of helicopters (they aim dead straight even though you're moving).
Personally I don't like HC because of the people that sit around in bushes with their snipers and the fact that you get killed so easily and spammed to death with nades/rockets. HC is really only there for those people that want to consider themselves better for playing a less forgiving game
On February 25 2011 09:46 RoosterSamurai wrote: I get really frustrated playing this game. I picked it up at christmas when steam had it's big sale, so I'm no pro by any means. If I play normal mode, it seems that it takes too many bullets to kill people, and the guy with the MG36 or the AUG always kills me. If I try to play hardcore mode, I just always get killed by the snipers immediately after spawning. So I'm kind of losing enthusiasm for this game =/
As the above posted said, the key is to learn to fire weapons in bursts. If you go for AR's, find the one that suits your style of play and learn how to burst with it over various distances. It really doesn't take 20 bullets to kill somebody. I think one of the distinguishing features of the BF series was always the fact that it takes more practice than other FPS' to learn to use weapons effectively.
Got decent at Assault class and preferred weapon is XM8 Prototype. Recently been getting into Engineer class and boy am I glad to have unlocked the 4x scope (didn't know the class had it :D).
Atacama desert is a great map once you get comfortable with the game but I remember hating it when I was a newb. I recommend Africa Harbor for newbs that way you won't have to deal with pesky vehicles right away.
Gotta practice my tracer dart shot on the helicopter though... even tougher is hitting the heli with a tank shot.
HC is such a trash gametype. They make explosives retardedly op, and actively make you aim worse, because firing faster > aiming. As long as you can connect a couple of rounds, you're good. In SC mode, you actually have to burst fire and keep your gun on the target.
And bear in mind I say this as a guy that plays in HC all the time, because I usually snipe really well and use the revolver and mortar quite effectively, so i enjoy racking up 40-2 kill counts because n00bs refuse to move out of "their spot". You know exactly who I'm talking about too, lol. Those guys that have a "spot" they go to on every single map, offense of defense. They don't move unless forced to, and when you shoot them in the head for the 18th time, they just call you a hacker and leave.
I love playing as an active front line sniper, because you can two shot people with the revolver, you still can spam nades, and you can no scope for OHKs at close range pretty easily.
This is my favorite game besides sc atm. I dont claim to be be awesome at the game or editing but Im well above average in using all classes and flying helis and i make gameplay videos as a hobby on sony vegas from time to time. Sadly alot of my friends stopped playing this game and I could use some new friends ;D I love this game best when I work with regular squadmates. PM me to exchange steam info!
I have to say is this has to be the best montage video that I've seen yet for BC2. The editing is superb and has some of the coolest moment in the game.
Sorry to bump this topic but does anyone still play this game? After the sale, I bought it and I'm quite low rank, but I love the game, just rarely anyone to play with D:
Ahh I tried to buy the game on the day of the sale, but steam just wouldn't let me register an account for some reason. I would love to play if I had an account, I used to play on xbox and it is so much fun. I think I'll try to re-register an account after final exams.
I quit playing it after the 1.51 patch came out for BF2142. I find its gameplay to be superior by far, and getting Northern Strike free+new maps is a deal I can't resist.
On May 19 2011 07:04 Torte de Lini wrote: Sorry to bump this topic but does anyone still play this game? After the sale, I bought it and I'm quite low rank, but I love the game, just rarely anyone to play with D:
just was about to say, lemme add you but then i saw you're in canada...and my inet connection sucks already but yeah, you're at least not alone here! i'm still playing from time to time, sometimes also with ppl from tl here
I was pretty excited over Hardcore when I first got this game having just finished my own army service and expecting for somewhat realistic combat but it didn't take long for me to switch mostly to playing the normal mode. Recon's are just silly on HC and one shot kills just don't really work in games like this imo. In normal mode team work seems to have higher emphasis as well and different classes play a bigger role.
In any case it's the only FPS game that I play online atm, even though thats very rarely. Been a BF player since 1942 and CoD's never did attract me.
And Torte de Lini keep at it, you might even find it more fun/easier once you unlock most weapons etc. At least thats how it was for me as most people had everything unlocked when I first bought the game.
On May 19 2011 07:04 Torte de Lini wrote: Sorry to bump this topic but does anyone still play this game? After the sale, I bought it and I'm quite low rank, but I love the game, just rarely anyone to play with D:
just was about to say, lemme add you but then i saw you're in canada...and my inet connection sucks already but yeah, you're at least not alone here! i'm still playing from time to time, sometimes also with ppl from tl here
XerrolAvengerII (PC) just got the bad company 2 package from steam for $10 (even though Bad Company 2 is only $7.5 on amazon) Just got rank 15 and unlocked magnum ammo for my 50 cal... makes sense right?>????? ADD ME!
Before I buy either of these can someone confirm that the game looks this damn good cause I have a hard time seeing how its so cheap looking this sexy in game ( ). Also should I be buying the vietnam one too or do most TL ppl play on the regular one. Also I just got into CS:S and 1.6 does this game feel similar/shoot/etc and is it a challenge? All I hear is bad stuff about most FPS games so I just got into CS knowing it was the most distinguished and yet almost no TL ppl play it...are you all hiding on this game or are you on that call of duty game that's out? (Aside from BW and SC2 of course I mean that's why where all here in the first place I'm talking FPS wise)
I've been playing this game quite a lot recently, since picking up the Vietnam expansion. I still can't really say that Vietnam is better than the vanilla game or not, but it's really fun. There seem to be a lot of people playing both versions though, so it's perfectly easy to jump back and forth between the two.
My new anti-noob kit is running the 870 with slugs on an assault class. That way I can countersnipe decently with that loadout, even taking out snipers from halfway across the map on Operation Hastings (the 870 is a beast with slugs), which deals with the inevitable flock of recon campers. The 870 also packs a massive punch up close, even when not using buckshot, so I can run and gun and take down objectives too. With that kit, the main weak area I have is at medium range; feeling strong at both close and very long distance. I don't know if that's just my aim being bad at those middle distances, or if it's just an inherent weakness in the kit. Probably my aim.
Speaking of shotguns, I face palm every time I get killed by a far range shotgun... it just looks and sounds ridiculous. Yes, I know it's just a game, but still.
On July 15 2011 10:51 RaLakedaimon wrote: Before I buy either of these can someone confirm that the game looks this damn good cause I have a hard time seeing how its so cheap looking this sexy in game ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lnzScc6ZE ). Also should I be buying the vietnam one too or do most TL ppl play on the regular one. Also I just got into CS:S and 1.6 does this game feel similar/shoot/etc and is it a challenge? All I hear is bad stuff about most FPS games so I just got into CS knowing it was the most distinguished and yet almost no TL ppl play it...are you all hiding on this game or are you on that call of duty game that's out? (Aside from BW and SC2 of course I mean that's why where all here in the first place I'm talking FPS wise)
Yes, it does and it feels really smooth on my computer. I play Vanilla and there are plenty of people there to satisfy me.
On July 15 2011 13:16 jtype wrote: My new anti-noob kit is running the 870 with slugs on an assault class. That way I can countersnipe decently with that loadout, even taking out snipers from halfway across the map on Operation Hastings (the 870 is a beast with slugs), which deals with the inevitable flock of recon campers. The 870 also packs a massive punch up close, even when not using buckshot, so I can run and gun and take down objectives too. With that kit, the main weak area I have is at medium range; feeling strong at both close and very long distance. I don't know if that's just my aim being bad at those middle distances, or if it's just an inherent weakness in the kit. Probably my aim.
I hate you... my T88 s ACOG wants to know why a shotgun is better at everything... and why that's fair...
hey guys I finally got both bought and downloaded last night add me in game my id is RaLakedaimon, I'm looking into getting them added to Steam if I can but atm I have them on Origin since they were on sale for 5 dollars each (each as in the Vietnam extra game stuff for 5 as well). Ive been having some fun so far but would like to know where you guys prefer to game at, like which servers and stuff. Hit me up oh and my Steam is also RaLakedaimon.
On August 09 2011 21:29 RaLakedaimon wrote: hey guys I finally got both bought and downloaded last night add me in game my id is RaLakedaimon, I'm looking into getting them added to Steam if I can but atm I have them on Origin since they were on sale for 5 dollars each (each as in the Vietnam extra game stuff for 5 as well). Ive been having some fun so far but would like to know where you guys prefer to game at, like which servers and stuff. Hit me up oh and my Steam is also RaLakedaimon.
OMG, I saw this somewhere on email, I thought it was fake / phishing cause I couldn't find it on Origin store QQQQ_QQQQ As I heard the Vietnam expansion is great, and also I heard there were Bf2 and 2142 t_t
On July 15 2011 10:51 RaLakedaimon wrote: Before I buy either of these can someone confirm that the game looks this damn good cause I have a hard time seeing how its so cheap looking this sexy in game ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lnzScc6ZE ). Also should I be buying the vietnam one too or do most TL ppl play on the regular one. Also I just got into CS:S and 1.6 does this game feel similar/shoot/etc and is it a challenge? All I hear is bad stuff about most FPS games so I just got into CS knowing it was the most distinguished and yet almost no TL ppl play it...are you all hiding on this game or are you on that call of duty game that's out? (Aside from BW and SC2 of course I mean that's why where all here in the first place I'm talking FPS wise)
Yes, the game looks absolutely amazing, and is probably the best optimized PC game I have ever seen. It runs 60fps on max with my i5-750 and gtx460. Note: You absolutely NEED quad core for the game to be playable.
On July 15 2011 10:51 RaLakedaimon wrote: Before I buy either of these can someone confirm that the game looks this damn good cause I have a hard time seeing how its so cheap looking this sexy in game ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5lnzScc6ZE ). Also should I be buying the vietnam one too or do most TL ppl play on the regular one. Also I just got into CS:S and 1.6 does this game feel similar/shoot/etc and is it a challenge? All I hear is bad stuff about most FPS games so I just got into CS knowing it was the most distinguished and yet almost no TL ppl play it...are you all hiding on this game or are you on that call of duty game that's out? (Aside from BW and SC2 of course I mean that's why where all here in the first place I'm talking FPS wise)
Yes, the game looks absolutely amazing, and is probably the best optimized PC game I have ever seen. It runs 60fps on max with my i5-750 and gtx460. Note: You absolutely NEED quad core for the game to be playable.
Uh, what the fuck are you talking about?
This is easily one of the WORST optimized games. DICE themselves said for BF3 they knew BC2 was poorly optimized and was heavily consolized and they were fixing that for BF3. And you don't absolutely need a Quad Core. I run this game at 45-50 FPS during huge firefights on an E5200 Dual Core.
Also, note for everyone: This game measures ping very strangely. It says it's much higher than it really is. The rule of thumb is essentially divide your ping shown on the scoreboard in half and that's your actual ping.
I played a bit of BC2 every now and then until I finally caved and got BF3 last week. My last friends had finally migrated, and I was sick and tired of what was left.
The overall skill discrepancy dropped noticeably after BF3's release - at least that's my subjective opinion. The majority of the average players left or migrated and a lot of either high or low-skilled players remained. This could turn your match into a blissful event of amazing teamwork or a nightmare of pulling your team through because they could barely hold the rifles the right way.
I've also seen a lot more "cheap" play over the last few months, with constant 40mm/RPG spamming, shotgun/VSS snipers going Rambo or suicide medics.
On February 22 2012 19:50 FlamingForce wrote: Meh, I'm usually pretty capable of holding my own against the enemy team, even if my teammates are a bunch of retards.
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