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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 27 2012 16:07 GMT
#3421
On January 28 2012 00:59 Latedi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 00:11 Caller wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:03 Latedi wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:14 tyr wrote:
I like how this thread is 95% about music when there is no new touhou game release around. :D


Okay. So what is Touhou? The gameplay is cool and if you're not into bullet hells it also gets boring after a while. The art is terrible but fans draw awesome pictures which is why the characters are likable. Let's not talk about the plot. Only the music is then left and I believe ZUN got that right. Of course people remix this too as people draw fanmade pictures and mangas but this is actually good in it's original form as well. My conclusion: Touhou = music.

personally I think what makes Touhou so great is how it provides a very, very basic general plot and setting for the story. At the same time, ZUN puts no restrictions on how far fans can take the characters, which is very unusual, especially for a copyright maze like Japan. So for the wide variety of interpretation that one can take on every single character and every detail, produces an almost infinite maze of variation. This is why things like the relatively simple Apparitions Stalk the Night can be morphed into virtually anything, and why its not just one man deciding how the series goes, but rather the entire fandom influences the man. Take Cirno for example. People thought she was stupid because of Icicle Fall, Easy. ZUN designates her as a 9. Shit hits the fan.


Haha yeah, he does indeed put a lot of thought into what he does. I think a problem with lacking quality in for example art is because he's a jack of all trades.

his art HAS gotten better, though

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vs.

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or this:

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vs. this:

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Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 16:42:02
January 27 2012 16:41 GMT
#3422
On January 28 2012 01:07 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 00:59 Latedi wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:11 Caller wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:03 Latedi wrote:
On January 27 2012 13:14 tyr wrote:
I like how this thread is 95% about music when there is no new touhou game release around. :D


Okay. So what is Touhou? The gameplay is cool and if you're not into bullet hells it also gets boring after a while. The art is terrible but fans draw awesome pictures which is why the characters are likable. Let's not talk about the plot. Only the music is then left and I believe ZUN got that right. Of course people remix this too as people draw fanmade pictures and mangas but this is actually good in it's original form as well. My conclusion: Touhou = music.

personally I think what makes Touhou so great is how it provides a very, very basic general plot and setting for the story. At the same time, ZUN puts no restrictions on how far fans can take the characters, which is very unusual, especially for a copyright maze like Japan. So for the wide variety of interpretation that one can take on every single character and every detail, produces an almost infinite maze of variation. This is why things like the relatively simple Apparitions Stalk the Night can be morphed into virtually anything, and why its not just one man deciding how the series goes, but rather the entire fandom influences the man. Take Cirno for example. People thought she was stupid because of Icicle Fall, Easy. ZUN designates her as a 9. Shit hits the fan.


Haha yeah, he does indeed put a lot of thought into what he does. I think a problem with lacking quality in for example art is because he's a jack of all trades.

his art HAS gotten better, though
+ Show Spoiler +

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vs.

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or this:

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vs. this:

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Reupload to imgur or something, it's annoying to copy paste all the links :p Anyways yeah he has gotten better, the zombification aside. However I believe this is also part of his minimalistic ideas. Like, why should he practice drawing when people will draw awesome fanart the instant the game is released anyway? If he wanted to, and practiced every day, I'm sure the artwork is his games would be incredible by now.
I am Latedi.
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
January 27 2012 17:22 GMT
#3423
Of course ZUN has also sperged out on his setting a few times. Like inPerfect Memento in Strict Sense. Also his upcoming book Symposium of Post-Mysticism. I enjoy the minimalist charm that the games present, but I also love that he also has a bunch of stuff fleshed out in the background that makes the setting feel big and gives some internal consistency. Like how in PCB Reimu makes a small comment about how she's worried about seeing so many fireflies in Gensokyo hinting that a reason they're showing up is because they might be dying out in the real world. It's subtle, but it shows Gensokyo's nature that things the real world forgets or transforms into myths and fantasy often end up in Gensokyo.

I'm a huge geek about world settings though. Which is probably why I read every damn book in an Elder Scrolls game or enjoy the convoluted "Nasuverse" setting. I think I read all of Perfect Memento in Strict Sense in 2 days.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 27 2012 17:41 GMT
#3424
On January 28 2012 02:22 Arolis wrote:
Of course ZUN has also sperged out on his setting a few times. Like inPerfect Memento in Strict Sense. Also his upcoming book Symposium of Post-Mysticism. I enjoy the minimalist charm that the games present, but I also love that he also has a bunch of stuff fleshed out in the background that makes the setting feel big and gives some internal consistency. Like how in PCB Reimu makes a small comment about how she's worried about seeing so many fireflies in Gensokyo hinting that a reason they're showing up is because they might be dying out in the real world. It's subtle, but it shows Gensokyo's nature that things the real world forgets or transforms into myths and fantasy often end up in Gensokyo.

I'm a huge geek about world settings though. Which is probably why I read every damn book in an Elder Scrolls game or enjoy the convoluted "Nasuverse" setting. I think I read all of Perfect Memento in Strict Sense in 2 days.


I feel like that his most recent book though is more just to flesh out the religious dispute going on here. Because Taoism wasn't really featured in Japanese history, the dispute between Taoists and Buddhists that went on in Chinese history tends to be unknown by Japanese people. Similarly, Shinto was never really fleshed out as a concept until the rise of the Meiji-era, as it was mostly integrated with Buddhism in Japanese history until the 19th century. So to differentiate the Shinto (Moriya) vs. Buddhist (Myouren) vs. Taoist (i dunno, Shoutoku?) is probably something he wants to do to flesh out the concepts a bit better. I mean all we know is that Moriya is up to no good as usual and the Buddhists and Taoists hate each other.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 18:15:00
January 27 2012 18:13 GMT
#3425
@Caller pictures don't work o.o

On January 27 2012 22:51 Aeres wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Something is wrong with this picture.] +
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Cus she's a vampire? :D

On January 27 2012 22:57 Aeres wrote:
Also, Yoshi, I heard you're a gay Paper Mario player. Hi5~



Haha. Btw did you recognize the OP BushidoSniper? He's the one who trolled here a couple times xD

On January 27 2012 23:03 Caller wrote:
yoshi es joke, but keep me in touch

also dkpl you could just learn moonspeak and go on pixiv :X


uhhh i was joking too... yea :D why would I pick rumia's music =O

@Aeres

How did Yoshi switch our usrenames!
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dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 07:14:18
January 27 2012 22:41 GMT
#3426
I think it's too difficult to say that touhou is only one thing or another

There are just too many facets to it that almost anyone can find something within the touhou fandom that they like. All it takes is one person creating fan-made content that you like for you to be hooked I liked the comics long before I really got into music remixes.


Also I think you guys are only just scratching the surface about Zun's plots and settings. The games obviously provide a fairly basic and generic plot, but that's due to the limitation of what a gaming experience can bring. I believe he puts in a lot more effort than what it seems. Even just starting with the games, if one takes a bit of time to read the documentation, you'll learn just how much is going on behind the mind of Zun. The biggest example, I think, is the music, but most people don't even know that music documentation exists. Then there's, as Arolis mentioned, the other works that continually flesh out his characters even more.



Caller, if one could just "learn moonspeak", there wouldn't be any need for scanlators
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 03:23:32
January 28 2012 03:21 GMT
#3427
touhou is what the fan community does with it

for example...



I also like this one

once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
January 28 2012 04:22 GMT
#3428
Whyyy....... That song was actually quite catchy even if there lyrics were strange. This "song" ruined just about everything possible while maintaining some kind of melody and if it wasn't for the picture and video title I'd have no clue. Can't unsee >_<
I am Latedi.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
January 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#3429
+ Show Spoiler [It was her fate to have bad hair] +
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+ Show Spoiler [The Watchful Eye] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Uh... I don't even... what?] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Minato Areisento] +
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+ Show Spoiler [...and straight on till morning] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Eye on the Tiger] +
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+ Show Spoiler [☢ CAUTION!!! ☢] +
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Yes, Utsuho's eye is trying to escape from her body. We're fucked.

+ Show Spoiler [Poor Chen...] +
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+ Show Spoiler [A Challenger Appears!] +
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+ Show Spoiler +
I spend way too much time thinking up appropriate captions for the images I share. This says a lot about the amount of real-life responsibility I have.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
January 28 2012 16:11 GMT
#3430
=O nah, i like your captions :D good pictures once again.

poor chen

satori looks epic
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 28 2012 16:12 GMT
#3431
HNNNNNGH

shou :3 and byakuren
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 00:13:19
January 28 2012 22:53 GMT
#3432
On January 26 2012 10:36 Aeres wrote:
Here's an absolutely stunning arrangement of Eternal Shrine Maiden, by RD-Sounds. So beautiful...

+ Show Spoiler +


Browse TLTHDT > copy/paste circle into touhou player > yay

(Withered Leaf?) t=NODE album, song arranged by RD-Sounds
+ Show Spoiler +


(Demystify Feast?) Now just t=NODE,
+ Show Spoiler [as my hw typing speed varies through t…] +
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
January 29 2012 04:26 GMT
#3433
omg ame, nice! both are awesome :D like, awesome... the first one is beautiful, the 2nd i'll have to listen more to though.
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 04:30:21
January 29 2012 04:30 GMT
#3434
The second t=node song is Yukari's theme from IaMP, Demystify Feast, and also Necrofantasia
From the album, Channel Node :>
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 29 2012 05:30 GMT
#3435

It's been so long, but this still makes me laugh so hard.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
January 29 2012 05:48 GMT
#3436
haha the voice acting is always good too bad i cant read chinese kekek
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 29 2012 05:55 GMT
#3437
i personally like this one better


blasty you are hella behind the times
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
January 29 2012 06:41 GMT
#3438

so good.
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
January 29 2012 06:51 GMT
#3439
On January 29 2012 15:41 Blasterion wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4tZmNN4pYY&feature=related
so good.

blasty #1 need subtitles to understand manzai
blasty #1 like the worst ranked of the manzais
blasty #1 post in touhou thread like tladt thread

this isn't tladt get out of here
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Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 09:15:14
January 29 2012 09:06 GMT
#3440
This is kinda cool. Zun can actually draw. I also spent like 3 minutes staring at Zun's monitor trying to figure out language he was programming in.

Oh yea, you'll have to use your foreign language parsing skills for the rest of the documentary.

And btw, has anyone here played Katawa Shoujo. I know it's not touhou, but it sort of has some sort of relation, being oddly doujin in its creation. Would shamelessly reccomend.
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