EPTWorld of Warcraft: Cataclysm Expansion Discussion - Page 15
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
They must have lost alot in the last year i suppose ? With RIFT + SW:TOR and the general populace just not liking cataclysm (Lost subs.) Then you have GW2 thats coming out, which is a bigger threat as it seems to offer such unique and new gameplay + no monthly payments. I guess all the recent f2p moves havent helped either. Ive only just thought about it, but with this, it seems WoW really is on the downfall, by no means dead, but with all this and the recent firings within blizzard, one starts to think how badly their leaking subs ^^ Edit: to clarify, they are basically offering about $40 worth of expansions to new players. Then old subscribers get to skip the levelling process and get a shiny new character that takes 2~ days to get maxed. Along with the added benefits. The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing  they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it | ||
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote: i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do itOf course they arent losing money. They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps. Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak. They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing. Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that. Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD | ||
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:17 Capped wrote: Of course they arent losing money. They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps. Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak. They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing. Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that. Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:26 plogamer wrote: The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria. we'll see about that^^ all the panda haters.... | ||
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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Tommylew
Wales2717 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:56 Enox wrote: well, if you get resurrected you get a free server and faction change. the monthly sub is still the same though.. didnt change Good idea I supopose you need to be ressurected from someone on a busy server? Anyone play on English language servers which are PVE and also very busy? EDIT: has anyone used the resurection yet? Is it only one character that transfer to the new server or can you use it to transfer all your chracters on a specific sever to the new sever? Also if you transfer a charcafter over can you sitll get the free boosted Level 80 character? Cheers | ||
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Gonn
Germany19 Posts
wow is free2play in 3month. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On March 07 2012 20:14 Gonn wrote: Blizzard doesn't get it. People don't want Mounts/Pets and free char-transfers. WoW sucks hard! The only thing that was still a little bit of fun in WoW, was the leveling 1-70. now you can skip that? LOLZ! wow is free2play in 3month. Yes. Its by far, by very far the most played MMORPG. An 12 million subscriber count, everyone paying every month. Yes it will be free in 3months..  Really man. Don't come in a topic just to bash/troll. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On March 07 2012 20:14 Gonn wrote: Blizzard doesn't get it. People don't want Mounts/Pets and free char-transfers. WoW sucks hard! The only thing that was still a little bit of fun in WoW, was the leveling 1-70. now you can skip that? LOLZ! wow is free2play in 3month. Since when was the only fun thing in wow to level from 1-70? You're insane. That's like saying the only fun thing about the plague is that you could be infected by it. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:27 Enox wrote: we'll see about that^^ all the panda haters.... I mean, I'm not saying that mists of pandaria is going to be bad because of the pandas, but... Eh, well, when your audience bursts into laughter as you reveal your next expansion. I mean c'mon, it was an april fools joke in WC3, wasn't it? | ||
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zilav
Russian Federation32 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
http://buy.wow-gold-ok.com/?p=1030 Its what i got when i googled subscriber numbers. Its why i dont believe there are 10, or 12, or any other number of million subscribers in WoW. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2546-WoW-Down-to-10.3M-Subscribers-PTR-Build-14966-Class-Balance-Q-A-TCG-Art | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
On March 07 2012 22:18 Capped wrote: What makes me giggle is the fact that most people will get their numbers from ridiculous places like this. http://buy.wow-gold-ok.com/?p=1030 Its what i got when i googled subscriber numbers. Its why i dont believe there are 10, or 12, or any other number of million subscribers in WoW. I don't know how you do your google-ing, but it's not exactly hard to find the numbers... Biggest WoW site: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1079263-WoW-stabilizes-over-10M-subscribers-down-100k-in-Q4-2011 And the source: http://investor.activision.com/results.cfm http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1725130791x0x541608/d4938540-d45e-4b5b-87a9-f605bd542852/ATVI_C4Q11_Slides.pdf http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1725130791x0x541649/db4285e9-f49e-47e1-a410-dc56ad167e42/ATVI_CQ411ATVI_Summary_Sheet.pdf tl;dr 10.2M subscribers as of Q4 2011, and that's the best number you'll get until the next quarterly earnings call. | ||
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Serejai
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On March 07 2012 19:26 plogamer wrote: The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria. The entire reason they're making Pandland is because WoW is a flop in non-China asian countries (which are dominated by Aion and TERA). There aren't really any more potential customers left in NA/EU/China so the next logical place to look would be places like South Korea where Aion is huge and nobody plays WoW. It's not so much about the pandas but rather an excuse to use asian-style landscapes and themes. They could potentially gain as much as three million subs in asia if they can pull people away from Aion and TERA which is far greater than the amount they will lose from angry NA/EU players. | ||
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