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Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
March 07 2012 09:18 GMT
#281
So anyone with an active account can resurrect my account?Would you guys resurrect me if you got an active account?
日本語が上手ですね
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
March 07 2012 09:34 GMT
#282
i'll ressurect you, send me a PM
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:01:21
March 07 2012 09:59 GMT
#283
Wow. That is going pretty far to retain subscribers..

They must have lost alot in the last year i suppose ? With RIFT + SW:TOR and the general populace just not liking cataclysm (Lost subs.)

Then you have GW2 thats coming out, which is a bigger threat as it seems to offer such unique and new gameplay + no monthly payments.

I guess all the recent f2p moves havent helped either.

Ive only just thought about it, but with this, it seems WoW really is on the downfall, by no means dead, but with all this and the recent firings within blizzard, one starts to think how badly their leaking subs ^^

Edit: to clarify, they are basically offering about $40 worth of expansions to new players. Then old subscribers get to skip the levelling process and get a shiny new character that takes 2~ days to get maxed. Along with the added benefits.

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money.
Useless wet fish.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
March 07 2012 10:07 GMT
#284
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
March 07 2012 10:13 GMT
#285
If anybody still wants to be ressurected, just pm me
Pokemon Master
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
March 07 2012 10:17 GMT
#286
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote:
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

Show nested quote +
The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it


Of course they arent losing money.

They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps.

Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak.

They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing.

Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that.

Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD
Useless wet fish.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 07 2012 10:26 GMT
#287
On March 07 2012 19:17 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote:
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it


Of course they arent losing money.

They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps.

Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak.

They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing.

Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that.

Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD


The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
March 07 2012 10:27 GMT
#288
On March 07 2012 19:26 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:17 Capped wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote:
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it


Of course they arent losing money.

They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps.

Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak.

They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing.

Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that.

Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD


The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria.

we'll see about that^^ all the panda haters....
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
March 07 2012 10:41 GMT
#289
the main reason I dont play wow is one im stuck on a dead alliance server and im not going to spend money paying for a transfer and also the monthly subscription is far too much, has it ever reduced since it has come out? I play now and again when i get 7 free days gametime on my account but that is it now!
Live and Let Die!
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
March 07 2012 10:56 GMT
#290
well, if you get resurrected you get a free server and faction change. the monthly sub is still the same though.. didnt change
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 11:11:28
March 07 2012 11:02 GMT
#291
On March 07 2012 19:56 Enox wrote:
well, if you get resurrected you get a free server and faction change. the monthly sub is still the same though.. didnt change


Good idea I supopose you need to be ressurected from someone on a busy server?

Anyone play on English language servers which are PVE and also very busy?

EDIT:

has anyone used the resurection yet?
Is it only one character that transfer to the new server or can you use it to transfer all your chracters on a specific sever to the new sever? Also if you transfer a charcafter over can you sitll get the free boosted Level 80 character? Cheers
Live and Let Die!
Gonn
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany19 Posts
March 07 2012 11:14 GMT
#292
Blizzard doesn't get it. People don't want Mounts/Pets and free char-transfers. WoW sucks hard! The only thing that was still a little bit of fun in WoW, was the leveling 1-70. now you can skip that? LOLZ!
wow is free2play in 3month.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
March 07 2012 11:32 GMT
#293
On March 07 2012 20:14 Gonn wrote:
Blizzard doesn't get it. People don't want Mounts/Pets and free char-transfers. WoW sucks hard! The only thing that was still a little bit of fun in WoW, was the leveling 1-70. now you can skip that? LOLZ!
wow is free2play in 3month.


Yes. Its by far, by very far the most played MMORPG. An 12 million subscriber count, everyone paying every month. Yes it will be free in 3months.. Really man. Don't come in a topic just to bash/troll.
월요 날 재미있
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
March 07 2012 11:34 GMT
#294
On March 07 2012 20:14 Gonn wrote:
Blizzard doesn't get it. People don't want Mounts/Pets and free char-transfers. WoW sucks hard! The only thing that was still a little bit of fun in WoW, was the leveling 1-70. now you can skip that? LOLZ!
wow is free2play in 3month.

Since when was the only fun thing in wow to level from 1-70? You're insane. That's like saying the only fun thing about the plague is that you could be infected by it.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
March 07 2012 11:35 GMT
#295
On March 07 2012 19:27 Enox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:26 plogamer wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:17 Capped wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote:
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it


Of course they arent losing money.

They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps.

Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak.

They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing.

Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that.

Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD


The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria.

we'll see about that^^ all the panda haters....


I mean, I'm not saying that mists of pandaria is going to be bad because of the pandas, but... Eh, well, when your audience bursts into laughter as you reveal your next expansion. I mean c'mon, it was an april fools joke in WC3, wasn't it?
memes are a dish best served dank
zilav
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 07 2012 11:44 GMT
#296
The only thing that could get me back into WoW is if they create a separate vanilla pre-TBC server with 40-man raids and endless Alterac Valley BG. That was the definition of fun for me in 2005-2006. I tried it later in 2008 with TBC (was gifted on a birthday) but played only for 2 months. Never looked back. It is not the WoW I loved and adored anymore.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
March 07 2012 13:18 GMT
#297
What makes me giggle is the fact that most people will get their numbers from ridiculous places like this.

http://buy.wow-gold-ok.com/?p=1030

Its what i got when i googled subscriber numbers.

Its why i dont believe there are 10, or 12, or any other number of million subscribers in WoW.
Useless wet fish.
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
March 07 2012 13:41 GMT
#298
maybe you should google a bit longer than 5 seconds...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2546-WoW-Down-to-10.3M-Subscribers-PTR-Build-14966-Class-Balance-Q-A-TCG-Art
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
March 07 2012 13:45 GMT
#299
On March 07 2012 22:18 Capped wrote:
What makes me giggle is the fact that most people will get their numbers from ridiculous places like this.

http://buy.wow-gold-ok.com/?p=1030

Its what i got when i googled subscriber numbers.

Its why i dont believe there are 10, or 12, or any other number of million subscribers in WoW.


I don't know how you do your google-ing, but it's not exactly hard to find the numbers...

Biggest WoW site:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1079263-WoW-stabilizes-over-10M-subscribers-down-100k-in-Q4-2011

And the source:
http://investor.activision.com/results.cfm

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1725130791x0x541608/d4938540-d45e-4b5b-87a9-f605bd542852/ATVI_C4Q11_Slides.pdf

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/1725130791x0x541649/db4285e9-f49e-47e1-a410-dc56ad167e42/ATVI_CQ411ATVI_Summary_Sheet.pdf


tl;dr 10.2M subscribers as of Q4 2011, and that's the best number you'll get until the next quarterly earnings call.
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
March 07 2012 14:07 GMT
#300
On March 07 2012 19:26 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:17 Capped wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:07 Enox wrote:
i dont think they are that desperate. even with the recent sub losses they are still around 10 million subs. but why not get more if you can? they are a buisness and want to make as much money as possible

The free expansions alone is giving away a sh*t load of money


think about it: an old player who comes back through this pays a least 1 monthly fee. an old player who doesnt come back pays nothing they dont lose money through this, else they wouldnt do it


Of course they arent losing money.

They are in no way struggling either, i know. I still think they are losing subs steadily and have lost a substantial number of them in the last year or so..10 million is a number i doubt nowadays. 8ish perhaps.

Its a good buisness move, after you've exhausted every other way of drawing in said people. I mean, you wouldnt give away the free expansions if you could convince people to buy em would ya ^_^. Thats where the "desperation" i spoke of comes from. Last ditch effort, so to speak.

They cant manage to get players back and buying the expansions so they give them away free to get them back (along with free pass to level 80, to experience said endgame / latest content quickly without losing interest.) and subscribing.

Its a good move i guess, with the pending expansion to get them to buy that.

Meh, it doesnt effect me either way, was just a passing thought on the mmo world xD


The biggest WoW killer = Mists of Pandaria.


The entire reason they're making Pandland is because WoW is a flop in non-China asian countries (which are dominated by Aion and TERA). There aren't really any more potential customers left in NA/EU/China so the next logical place to look would be places like South Korea where Aion is huge and nobody plays WoW.

It's not so much about the pandas but rather an excuse to use asian-style landscapes and themes. They could potentially gain as much as three million subs in asia if they can pull people away from Aion and TERA which is far greater than the amount they will lose from angry NA/EU players.
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