EPTThe Elephant in the Room - Page 287
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readytorock
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TTerran
United States4 Posts
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thalim90
United States68 Posts
I'd like to see more indepth analysis on this part. I'm not sure I can fully agree or disagree with it yet. I may be able to say I agree when we're talking about BW or SC2 - but other games including chess? I'm not so sure. Are you trying to say there's a natural in born talent for gaming in general? Life? What exactly is this mysterious quality? | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On May 10 2012 09:13 thalim90 wrote: "The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top. " I'd like to see more indepth analysis on this part. I'm not sure I can fully agree or disagree with it yet. I may be able to say I agree when we're talking about BW or SC2 - but other games including chess? I'm not so sure. Are you trying to say there's a natural in born talent for gaming in general? Life? What exactly is this mysterious quality? they are geniuses who can perform well in anything they choose, be it academics or olympics | ||
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emis
Estonia409 Posts
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ThePhan2m
Norway2739 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On May 10 2012 09:13 thalim90 wrote: "The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top. " I'd like to see more indepth analysis on this part. I'm not sure I can fully agree or disagree with it yet. I may be able to say I agree when we're talking about BW or SC2 - but other games including chess? I'm not so sure. Are you trying to say there's a natural in born talent for gaming in general? Life? What exactly is this mysterious quality? the drive to succeed. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
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XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
 Hopefully someone from BW will prove us wrong and win a GSL soon. | ||
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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PhoenixDark
United States286 Posts
On February 21 2012 04:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Who the hell keeps on beating the dead horse? I thought after Forgg got stomped in Code S that asshole would stop bumping this. Unless you're Flash/Jaedong/some other godlike player, which means you have absurd natural talent and would've won at SC2 anyways, playing BW just means your fingers are already pretty nimble. Whoops I'm sure these players will get good at SC2 eventually, but they literally looked a year behind the metagame last night. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6253 Posts
On May 21 2012 09:35 Chunhyang wrote: The Elephant will never die. That's one thing that's so annoying about the way this article is written. The Elephant will never die because BW-elitists will claim one/some of the following: - Not enough practice. - They were already past their prime. - SC2 is too volatile. Despite the elephant article claiming that there are 300 players will can dominate SC2. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On May 21 2012 14:21 Azzur wrote: The Elephant will never die because BW-elitists will claim one/some of the following: - Not enough practice. - They were already past their prime. - SC2 is too volatile. Despite the elephant article claiming that there are 300 players will can dominate SC2. Yep. Lol @ the 300 players who can dominate sc2 part as well, not a chance. . | ||
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Lord_Maximus
Denmark46 Posts
On May 21 2012 16:50 AxionSteel wrote: Yep. Lol @ the 300 players who can dominate sc2 part as well, not a chance. . No way man, 300 players will toooootally be able to beat players who have trained for 10 hours every day for 2 years after a few months of practise /s | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
MMA, SlayerS ace - 2-3 (40.00%) Sept 2008 - May 2009 Mvp, IM ace, GSLWC winner - 30-46 (39.47%) Apr 2008 - Aug 2010 MarineKing (Code S, two-time GSL finalist) Sept 2009 - June 2010 With the exception of MVP, these players never made it to their respective teams’ A-teams. They are listed separately because their careers in Brood War were all pretty short for one reason or another, and it would be unfair to list them with the others. For some of these guys, the reason for quitting was StarCraft II. Yeah, these guys simply recognised that bw would be phased out in a few years time, so they took the more sustainable route and and skipped right along to the game that would be played at the end of their own careers, not the beginning. I am starting to think that the players that are at the top of the SC2 game right now, will be able to stand firmly on their own legs against the influx of bw pros. It is a fun point that the influx is happening at the same time as HOTS is released, the metagame is going to be a mess for months. | ||
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Gerbilkit
United States32 Posts
 ) I honestly thought the only reason that Kespa and the whole korean pro scene didn't switch from the start was because they wanted to make sure that SC2 would be a stable and successful environment before abandoing everything they had built up in BW.I mean I still enjoy watching both, but I kind of thought it was obvious that eventually SC2 would be the only game played at the pro level. The pros who are switching don't seem to have any overwhelming bad feelings towards SC2. I really don't get the strong urge of people to defend one or the other. I can see how people who didn't watch starcraft before SC2 came out would not understand the OP. I don't think unless you have followed the BW pro scene you can really understand how utterly Korea has dominated. I mean for a top foreigner to take a game off of a low level korean pro was considered a big deal. I think that Korea's obsession, history, culture, and years of training will lead to continued domination. But I don't think it will ever be as extreme as it was in the past. But I can definitely see how someone who never watched professional starcraft before SC2 would have a hard time understanding how people see things. The good news is games will be entertaining whatever happens. So we can all keep watching. | ||
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BatesC
United States175 Posts
The illusion of skill in BW came from the buggy ass pathing and spells. That's it. No skill. SC2 is the far superior game in unit control, tactics and strategy. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 27 2012 15:10 BatesC wrote: BW never required any more skill than SC2 did. Proleague is proof. In fact SC2 is harder than Brood War. Look at how poorly all the heroes of Brood War do in a supposedly easier game. The illusion of skill in BW came from the buggy ass pathing and spells. That's it. No skill. SC2 is the far superior game in unit control, tactics and strategy. In proleague the players split their time between BW and SC2. You are spewing bullshit =] | ||
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