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quillian
Profile Joined April 2010
United States318 Posts
April 02 2012 20:42 GMT
#5701
Existing BW elites will likely never fully make the transition to sc2. The risk is too great, both financially and in terms of brand strength, and so much of their existing skillset would be worthless.

However, we WILL see the rise of new Korean teams and players in the near future, players with the same "work ethic", coaching, and dedication the Legends possessed. When Korean teams enter the sport in earnest, we will likely see most of the familiar names right now be wiped away. There is quite simply more money and effort, and a stronger pro gaming culture behind Korean teams.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 11 2012 03:38 GMT
#5702
Pre-bumping this thread in anticipation of tonight's GSL!!!

Will forGG make it out of his group?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 11 2012 12:36 GMT
#5703
On April 11 2012 20:17 meetle wrote:
Mouse in the room
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
April 21 2012 01:45 GMT
#5704
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331015 Bisu as terran in SC2 ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 BW Head Coaches on SC2

it's happening for real!
hello
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 21 2012 07:58 GMT
#5705
On April 21 2012 10:45 Fanek wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=331015 Bisu as terran in SC2 ?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330806 BW Head Coaches on SC2

it's happening for real!

Very enjoyable read!

Thanks for the links
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 21 2012 13:55 GMT
#5706
Who's this sweedish player Forsen?

How did he just take that game1 win against a former BW-pro A-teamer who was destined to dominate the SC2 scene?
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
April 24 2012 13:12 GMT
#5707
Adding to this thread now because this edit is probably going to be very relevant in 1< year's time.

I always thought that top-tiered Starcraft players, when/if they would transfer into SC2, would do insanely well (insert unimpressed Flash here). But after going back and watching SC1 replays and gameplay itself, it just seems like completely different games.

I don't really want to get into the whole SC1/SC2 argument, so I'm not going there. But it seems to me personally that SC1 players, when/if they transfer into SC2, will put up a fight. They will take down current SC2 players. But I won't be surprised when current SC2 players will take down top-tiered SC1 players.

It's going to be exciting times, for sure
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 24 2012 13:14 GMT
#5708
Lmao Azzur is really draining the thread hard...
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 13:34:47
April 24 2012 13:33 GMT
#5709
On April 24 2012 22:14 ShadeR wrote:
Lmao Azzur is really draining the thread hard...

LOL true! It's one of my most hated threads on TL
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
April 26 2012 07:52 GMT
#5710
On April 03 2012 05:42 quillian wrote:
Existing BW elites will likely never fully make the transition to sc2. The risk is too great, both financially and in terms of brand strength, and so much of their existing skillset would be worthless.

However, we WILL see the rise of new Korean teams and players in the near future, players with the same "work ethic", coaching, and dedication the Legends possessed. When Korean teams enter the sport in earnest, we will likely see most of the familiar names right now be wiped away. There is quite simply more money and effort, and a stronger pro gaming culture behind Korean teams.


wrongggg, flash would like to have a word with you about that
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
April 26 2012 13:48 GMT
#5711
Looks like everybody is switching soon :D

I'm sure people have said it before, but I like how Alicia was supposed to be big.

Its interesting to see how successful people will be in sc2, with examples like forgg out.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
CygNus X-1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada169 Posts
April 27 2012 05:58 GMT
#5712
Cant wait to look back to the early years of SC2 10 years from now and say, "remember the day SC1 pros switched to SC2?" Almost 2 years in and we've only seen barely the tip of the iceberg that is e-sports. Shit is going to get real in the next year.
Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation: We have assumed control.
minilance
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
April 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#5713
are we hyping too much s class player from bw ??
Bisu, Jangbang <3
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 27 2012 23:34 GMT
#5714
sc2 is too noob friendly that is why korean bw pros will never dominate. too strong macro mechanics, coin flips, and strong all in cheese lets lesser players take games off godlike players all the time.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
April 28 2012 11:47 GMT
#5715
This thread will explode if the BW pros (hopefully) competes in MLG!
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
April 29 2012 10:59 GMT
#5716
Haha can not wait for this elephant to be crushed.
.............
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#5717
On April 28 2012 20:47 Azzur wrote:
This thread will explode if the BW pros (hopefully) competes in MLG!


I really doubt they will play against anybody but other ex BW players.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 30 2012 13:34 GMT
#5718
The stage isn't big enough for flash and the elephant. Time for elly to relocate I guess. The (sc2) world will never be the same again.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
May 02 2012 07:33 GMT
#5719
In light of the recent earth shattering news I think it's time to bump this thread again.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
tripledoubles
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia213 Posts
May 03 2012 10:45 GMT
#5720
On May 02 2012 16:33 Amlitzer wrote:
In light of the recent earth shattering news I think it's time to bump this thread again.

Was waiting for that one guy to do it
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