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Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
March 26 2012 20:50 GMT
#6541
On March 19 2012 06:40 Aunvilgod wrote:
To be honest, I think blink stalker will get nerfed in the next few months.


I can't imagine how, their dps is sooooo bad. Not only do they start with shitty dps, but they scale some of the worst with upgrades of any unit in the game. they gain about .7 dps per +1 attack. Roaches gain exactly 1 dps per upgrade. Marines gain 1.2 dps per upgrade (1.7 when stimming). Also, Armor upgrades only affect half of a Stalker's total HP. Everytime I compare a stalker to a roach I just get so sad at how cost ineffective they are. They're literally a hair under being twice as expensive as a roach and are just soooo inefficient.

The thing that is problematic, however, is that since they have utility in the form of blink and an A-A attack (once again, a shitty one, however), it's hard to buff them without making certain timings like blink all-ins too strong. However, they're already so blatantly expensive that any nerf to a stalker and Protoss will fall apart hard in almost any area of the game that doesn't revolve around some silly timing attack, making the race 1-dimensional.


Sorry for the rant, but FUCK do I hate stalkers. I'd love to see blizzard make them cheaper, and squishier, into more of a harass unit, then introduce something like the Dragoon, a unit between stalkers and Immortals, that would be slower and have less utility. It'd require more intelligent decision making for army composition I hope.

But nope, we get Oracle and Tempest. Awesome.

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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 21:30:42
March 26 2012 21:29 GMT
#6542
Nice play in the Iron Squid. Not sure if MVP was playing decently in those games or MC was kind of floundering, I feel like MC got pretty big advantages in the openings in both games but it still ended up looking a lot closer than it should be. You almost never see MC go colossi first, I feel like he would've closed those games out more dominantly with his usual somewhat-upgrade-centric mass gateway style. Maybe MC was metagaming MVP? I dont know.

Maybe it just looked closer than it was because MC was delaying his upgrades in favor of powering economy and preventing MVP from making medivacs so it ended up being a win in the end when it came down to mass mass upgraded chargelots versus marauders with like three medivacs.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 26 2012 21:31 GMT
#6543
On March 27 2012 05:45 Luepert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:37 Sphen5117 wrote:
On March 27 2012 04:46 Olinim wrote:
MC 2-0 symbol now he secured advancement in Ironsquid. Still has to play MVP though.


EZPZ. Did you forget which one of his victories prompted the murloc dance? Shame, Olinim. Shame.


Later than tournament MVP 4-0'd him.
MVP also beat him in a previous gsl group.
But all in all, MVP is slumping hard and TvP is his worst match up I think MC should be able to take it.



You are saying tvp is hard for terran and easier for toss which is not true. If you look at the tvp record in gsl, you will find terran still have a over 50% winrate against toss ezpz. The matchup just looks more balanced than before and Mc showed he can beat mvp once the mu look balanced.

A lot of games he lost to mvp was at the time Korean terran dominated tvp.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 26 2012 21:35 GMT
#6544
MC is in a great spot in ironsquid. It's incredibly unlikely any more protoss will advance which is good for him, I think it will be MKP vs MC finals if they don't meet earlier.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#6545
The reason he lost to MVP in MLG had nothing to do with the race balance, it was:

a) maps - seriously, Dual Sight? Metalopolis close by air?

b) mindfucking MC - eg going for what looked like a 1-1-1 on Dual Sight, making MC go blind Phoenix, but instead going for pure Marine/Tank (BO win), etc.

c) game hadn't developed enough yet - people hadn't discovered how to deal with Marine/Tank/bunker contains with early expands after you break the initial push, because even breaking the initial push was so rare. MC beat the first contain on Metal but then lost to the follow up.

Btw, I remember those games so well. They made me sooooo sad, convincing me that TvP was really imbalanced in Terran's favour. But in 20/20 hindsight, I see that it really was the maps that were so hideous.
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
March 27 2012 03:14 GMT
#6546
No one told me he went 2-0 against MVP in IronSquid! Go MC! Win this whole tournament!
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
CaffeinatedBandit
Profile Joined March 2012
United States11 Posts
March 29 2012 02:52 GMT
#6547
MC: The best player yet playing. Please sign me up.
Never say die.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
March 29 2012 03:08 GMT
#6548
Vods for MC / MVP?
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
March 29 2012 12:34 GMT
#6549
On March 29 2012 12:08 QTIP. wrote:
Vods for MC / MVP?


Just watched the rerun...don't know when they will upload the VODs, they haven't updated the results as well...maybe next week? Dunno for sure...
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
TheWildShooter
Profile Joined September 2011
79 Posts
March 29 2012 13:31 GMT
#6550
oGsTheSTC defeat DRG today. How do you think, who was his practise partner for TvZ?
The answer here:+ Show Spoiler +
MC

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324678
oGsMC <3
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
March 29 2012 14:14 GMT
#6551
On March 29 2012 22:31 TheWildShooter wrote:
oGsTheSTC defeat DRG today. How do you think, who was his practise partner for TvZ?
The answer here:+ Show Spoiler +
MC

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324678

Well posting in MC thread kinda gives it away.

I like this quote.


It's true. MC's Zerg is very strong. Other Terran players lose to MC's Zerg frequently. We practised a lot and my win rate was about half.
MC for president
Xtreme94
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia282 Posts
March 29 2012 14:22 GMT
#6552
MC zerg like a BOSS
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
March 29 2012 15:54 GMT
#6553
loool, MC's zerg helped beat DRG?
Even by proxy, MC smashes other nerds!
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
March 29 2012 16:12 GMT
#6554
All IronSquid Vods are up!...
MC v MVP

Stormbringer!!!
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 21:10:40
March 31 2012 19:04 GMT
#6555
MC said on twitter that you practised against his Zerg

It's true. MC's Zerg is very strong. Other Terran players lose to MC's Zerg frequently. We practised a lot and my win rate was about half. He told me to beat DRG no matter what.

Now we know why MC is so godly at PvZ.

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=324678
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
April 01 2012 09:33 GMT
#6556
So, just to consolidate his matches in IronSquid...
For those who hadn't watched his games there yet (but this is highly unlikely)...
MC vs IdrA:
http://www.ironsquid.tv/show/10/part/2/game/14
MC vs ThorZain:
http://www.ironsquid.tv/show/11/part/2/game/18
MC vs Symbol:
http://www.ironsquid.tv/show/12/part/1/game/11
MC vs MVP:
http://www.ironsquid.tv/show/12/part/3
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
reDDevil7
Profile Joined February 2011
South Africa72 Posts
April 01 2012 10:16 GMT
#6557
Sign me up please.
"To dream the impossible dream, to fight the unbeatable foe, to bear with unbearable sorrow, to run where the brave dare not go."
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 01 2012 19:22 GMT
#6558
MC will finally be in IPL fight club :D. Against violet this time, should be a pretty easy match for MC honestly, but we'll see.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 02 2012 03:28 GMT
#6559
Anyone know what mouse MC uses at the moment? Is it the Steelseries Kinzu?
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
April 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#6560
On March 27 2012 06:31 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 05:45 Luepert wrote:
On March 27 2012 05:37 Sphen5117 wrote:
On March 27 2012 04:46 Olinim wrote:
MC 2-0 symbol now he secured advancement in Ironsquid. Still has to play MVP though.


EZPZ. Did you forget which one of his victories prompted the murloc dance? Shame, Olinim. Shame.


Later than tournament MVP 4-0'd him.
MVP also beat him in a previous gsl group.
But all in all, MVP is slumping hard and TvP is his worst match up I think MC should be able to take it.



You are saying tvp is hard for terran and easier for toss which is not true. If you look at the tvp record in gsl, you will find terran still have a over 50% winrate against toss ezpz. The matchup just looks more balanced than before and Mc showed he can beat mvp once the mu look balanced.

A lot of games he lost to mvp was at the time Korean terran dominated tvp.


Where exactly did I say Tvp is hard for terran and easier for toss?
I just said 4 facts and an opinion.
1. MVP 4-0d MC at Providence
2. MVP beat MC in a gsl group stage
3. TvP is MVP's worst MU
4. MVP is slumping
Opinion: I think MC will win
I don't quite see where you got your conclusion from.
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