1. Boxer (7-1 with 9 points) 2. Sen (6-2 with 9 points) 3. Zenio (6-2 with 8 points) 4. Idra (6-2 with 7 points)
Here are the important matches: Idra vs. Boxer Socke vs. Sen Zenio vs. Painuser
So what could happen?
Boxer advances if he wins.
Idra advances if he beats Boxer with any score and one of Zenio or Sen lose, or if both Sen and Zenio lose. If both Sen and Zenio win, there is no scenario in which Idra advances.
Sen advances if he wins his match. Even if it is 2-1 and Zenio 2-0's, Sen takes the tie break because he beat Zenio earlier. Sen can also advance if he loses, provided both other Zergs lose as well. Again, Sen owns the tie break over both Zenio and Idra.
Zenio advances if he wins and Sen loses. If Zenio wins 2-1 and Idra wins 2-0, Zenio advances due to the tie break.
Basically, it feels like IdrA should help Socke train for his match so he can take out Sen
Painuser has quit NASL, so Zenio gets a walkover. The only way for Idra to advance is to beat Boxer and help Socke take out Sen. Then the results are as follows:
Zenio 7-2 (10 points) <- already set in stone Idra 7-2 (9 or 8 points) Boxer 7-2 (8 or 7 points) <- in case of a 2-1 victory, Idra still wins head to head Sen 6-3
Closest race ever, makes you feel it's unfair that only 2 advance automatically.
Edit: Added that Zenio plays Painuser (or does not...) due to misunderstanding below this post. P.S. Spoiler!
On June 06 2011 13:29 Thrax wrote: Dexington did a great summary of the NASL Division 5 situation:
On June 06 2011 11:28 Dexington wrote:
Division 5 Here are the current standings.
1. Boxer (7-1 with 9 points) 2. Sen (6-2 with 9 points) 3. Zenio (6-2 with 8 points) 4. Idra (6-2 with 7 points)
Here are the important matches: Idra vs. Boxer Socke vs. Sen Zenio vs. Painuser
So what could happen?
Boxer advances if he wins.
Idra advances if he beats Boxer with any score and one of Zenio or Sen lose, or if both Sen and Zenio lose. If both Sen and Zenio win, there is no scenario in which Idra advances.
Sen advances if he wins his match. Even if it is 2-1 and Zenio 2-0's, Sen takes the tie break because he beat Zenio earlier. Sen can also advance if he loses, provided both other Zergs lose as well. Again, Sen owns the tie break over both Zenio and Idra.
Zenio advances if he wins and Sen loses. If Zenio wins 2-1 and Idra wins 2-0, Zenio advances due to the tie break.
Basically, it feels like IdrA should help Socke train for his match so he can take out Sen
Painuser has quit NASL, so the only way for Idra to advance is to beat Boxer and help Socke take out Sen. Then the results are as follows:
Zenio 7-2 (10 points) <- already set in stone Idra 7-2 (9 or 8 points) Boxer 7-2 (8 or 7 points) <- in case of a 2-1 victory, Idra still wins head to head Sen 6-3
Closest race ever, makes you feel it's unfair that only 2 advance automatically.
And that ladies and gentleman, is why we don't build Hydralisks in SC2 anymore. Hydra/Infestor (2-2 upgrades) vs Pure Blink Stalker (3-0 upgrades) and the stalkers win. Aren't Hydras supposed to be the counter to Stalkers?
On June 06 2011 13:29 Thrax wrote: Dexington did a great summary of the NASL Division 5 situation:
On June 06 2011 11:28 Dexington wrote:
Division 5 Here are the current standings.
1. Boxer (7-1 with 9 points) 2. Sen (6-2 with 9 points) 3. Zenio (6-2 with 8 points) 4. Idra (6-2 with 7 points)
Here are the important matches: Idra vs. Boxer Socke vs. Sen Zenio vs. Painuser
So what could happen?
Boxer advances if he wins.
Idra advances if he beats Boxer with any score and one of Zenio or Sen lose, or if both Sen and Zenio lose. If both Sen and Zenio win, there is no scenario in which Idra advances.
Sen advances if he wins his match. Even if it is 2-1 and Zenio 2-0's, Sen takes the tie break because he beat Zenio earlier. Sen can also advance if he loses, provided both other Zergs lose as well. Again, Sen owns the tie break over both Zenio and Idra.
Zenio advances if he wins and Sen loses. If Zenio wins 2-1 and Idra wins 2-0, Zenio advances due to the tie break.
Basically, it feels like IdrA should help Socke train for his match so he can take out Sen
Painuser has quit NASL, so the only way for Idra to advance is to beat Boxer and help Socke take out Sen. Then the results are as follows:
Zenio 7-2 (10 points) <- already set in stone Idra 7-2 (9 or 8 points) Boxer 7-2 (8 or 7 points) <- in case of a 2-1 victory, Idra still wins head to head Sen 6-3
Closest race ever, makes you feel it's unfair that only 2 advance automatically.
lol does idra get an autowin from painuser?
IdrA played PainUser about a month ago... won 2-0.
On June 06 2011 17:59 Joementum wrote: And that ladies and gentleman, is why we don't build Hydralisks in SC2 anymore. Hydra/Infestor (2-2 upgrades) vs Pure Blink Stalker (3-0 upgrades) and the stalkers win. Aren't Hydras supposed to be the counter to Stalkers?
I put it in a unit tester, to see what would happen if the Hydras had upgrades. On equal footing, they win against stalkers. If the stalkers have 3 shield, they either tie, or the stalkers win. All of this is before micro, of course, which can only benefit the Stalkers.
Working out is definitely showing too, I'm so Jelly of his shoulder-waist ratio x_x
i see what you did there. but yeah Mrs Grack is hot! Hilarious interview too. "whos MC? oh I've never heard of him" and the TL ban lolol 15 seconds of awkward silence
Working out is definitely showing too, I'm so Jelly of his shoulder-waist ratio x_x
i see what you did there. but yeah Mrs Grack is hot! Hilarious interview too. "whos MC? oh I've never heard of him" and the TL ban lolol 15 seconds of awkward silence
lol i like how you say "mrs grack" like they're married
On June 06 2011 15:11 Spicy Pepper wrote: I don't know if Idra reads this, but here's my layman's suggestion. Spend a day playing every ladder game, until your opponent kills every last structure. Basically train to have a "Never give up, never surrender, never gg" attitude.
Also, think about it this way Greg. The chance you may come back from a game is low, but these opportunities for you to seize the moment in your gaming history aren't going to be around forever. By passing on all these low probability comebacks, you're also losing out on the potential to have some of your most memorable games, wins, and moments of your gaming life. These aren't random soon-to-be-forgotten ladder games, at least not to everyone else watching, please don't treat them as such.
Quoting this because i like the post. Don't think he reads this, but someone else who knows him might.
On June 06 2011 15:11 Spicy Pepper wrote: I don't know if Idra reads this, but here's my layman's suggestion. Spend a day playing every ladder game, until your opponent kills every last structure. Basically train to have a "Never give up, never surrender, never gg" attitude.
Also, think about it this way Greg. The chance you may come back from a game is low, but these opportunities for you to seize the moment in your gaming history aren't going to be around forever. By passing on all these low probability comebacks, you're also losing out on the potential to have some of your most memorable games, wins, and moments of your gaming life. These aren't random soon-to-be-forgotten ladder games, at least not to everyone else watching, please don't treat them as such.
Quoting this because i like the post. Don't think he reads this, but someone else who knows him might.
Agree with this, I also think Greg is one of the best players.. He's a champion with a losers mindset, and that will never make you a true winner..
On June 06 2011 15:36 MooLen wrote: I used to be an MC Fan but in every match between him and idra i was just like, "go Idra you can do it". Even as the Blink Stalkers destroyed every Hydra i hoped that he can do it. Really i cant explain why i root for Idra :DD
I had exactly the opposite reaction. I was really hyped for the game after Idra's showing vs MC in the first round. But he sort of trew the games away. Pretty disgracefull imho. Even if he is that sure he is not going to be able to beat MC, there is no hurt in at least trying your best (imho him beating MC 2 out of 6 matches would not have been that wild a prediction). But if not for yourself at least do it for the fans. He has to understand that some people came to columbus or were watching the stream all weekend especially to see him play. It was just really unprofessional and he even made his sponsors and team look bad.
you do realize this is the fanclub for idra right..the only thing disgraceful here is your choice of place for this post.
On June 06 2011 15:52 bahl sofs tiil wrote: Idra is the Anti-Boxer:
Korean vs. Foreigner BW Bonjwa vs BW B-team Very nice and respectful vs. talks trash about everyone Micro emphasis vs. macro emphasis Never gives up and pulls crazy wins vs. leaves the game when he is ahead and gives up wins Loved by everyone vs. makes it hard for even his own fans to root for him
On June 06 2011 15:36 MooLen wrote: I used to be an MC Fan but in every match between him and idra i was just like, "go Idra you can do it". Even as the Blink Stalkers destroyed every Hydra i hoped that he can do it. Really i cant explain why i root for Idra :DD
I had exactly the opposite reaction. I was really hyped for the game after Idra's showing vs MC in the first round. But he sort of trew the games away. Pretty disgracefull imho. Even if he is that sure he is not going to be able to beat MC, there is no hurt in at least trying your best (imho him beating MC 2 out of 6 matches would not have been that wild a prediction). But if not for yourself at least do it for the fans. He has to understand that some people came to columbus or were watching the stream all weekend especially to see him play. It was just really unprofessional and he even made his sponsors and team look bad.
you do realize this is the fanclub for idra right..the only thing disgraceful here is your choice of place for this post.
Well he does have a point, I'm a great IdrA fan and the only reason I kept on watching MLG or even GSL was because of IdrA.. the other player's really don't interest me that much, altho I do root for foreigners in korea ofc!
On June 06 2011 15:52 bahl sofs tiil wrote: Idra is the Anti-Boxer:
Korean vs. Foreigner BW Bonjwa vs BW B-team Very nice and respectful vs. talks trash about everyone Micro emphasis vs. macro emphasis Never gives up and pulls crazy wins vs. leaves the game when he is ahead and gives up wins Loved by everyone vs. makes it hard for even his own fans to root for him
On June 06 2011 17:59 Joementum wrote: And that ladies and gentleman, is why we don't build Hydralisks in SC2 anymore. Hydra/Infestor (2-2 upgrades) vs Pure Blink Stalker (3-0 upgrades) and the stalkers win. Aren't Hydras supposed to be the counter to Stalkers?
He still had alot corrupters so he had far from as much supply of hydras as there were stalkers.
EPT
