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FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
May 12 2011 18:54 GMT
#10181
Yeah hes more like laughing when somebody does something stupid cheese and he loses
starsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 19:05:37
May 12 2011 19:05 GMT
#10182
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=grackg7et.jpg

Just got sent by a friend. Kinda cool. Does anyone know the background? Did Maker cheese again?
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 12 2011 19:09 GMT
#10183
On May 13 2011 04:05 starsucks wrote:
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=grackg7et.jpg

Just got sent by a friend. Kinda cool. Does anyone know the background? Did Maker cheese again?


I think he was just saying "Glhf" or something at the start of a game.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 12 2011 19:20 GMT
#10184
Maker is a 17yr old player from Mexico or so, he's pretty BM. One of the guys who always tries to provoke IdrA and all-ins with dual port banshee or whatever.
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
May 12 2011 19:21 GMT
#10185
On May 13 2011 04:05 starsucks wrote:
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=grackg7et.jpg

Just got sent by a friend. Kinda cool. Does anyone know the background? Did Maker cheese again?


Maker says GLHF.
Idra says nothing.
Maker says GLHF.......
Idra says nothing.
Maker says manner up
Idra says no I remember you. (He had previously cheesed him in other matches)

Now Maker cheese him in like 95% of the games they verse each other. Its funny to watch,
sashamunguia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico423 Posts
May 12 2011 19:48 GMT
#10186
I love his commentary, still can't figure out who will be a great co-caster to pair up with him

that's y i like Husky and Day 9, husky can make boring or unimportant moments kinda cool, and whenever there's an important thing, analysis, moment, situation to comment of, there's Day 9. And again, husky can just shout whenever there's a massive killing of units
"only the need for meaning changes how you feel about what you see" "he who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life" "being a Rebel is as stupid as to be completely Obedient"
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 12 2011 19:50 GMT
#10187
Yeah, Maker is a douchebag. He always flames me on ladder and offensive gg's etc... he always cheeses vs idra too which is pretty frustrating to play against(especially in tandem with BM)
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
May 12 2011 19:54 GMT
#10188
On May 13 2011 00:10 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 20:20 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:19 blackone wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:15 xtfftc wrote:
It may sound stupid but Idra's analysis a bit too good in my opinion. In football, a commentator like him usually stays silent for most of the time to balance it out.. Otherwise it gets way too technical.

The difference is, almost everybody who watches Starcraft knows the game from playing it themselves, while the average football wathcer only knows it from watching it.


Yeah, it's sort of a different sport than football. You wouldn't complain about a chess commentator getting technical would you? =b

True - but last time I played chess there were no explosions. Analysis is important and Idra is one of the few who provide quality analysis but it's not about getting technical - it's about getting too technical. Idra's casting at the moment is more like giving us (free) lessons. Still, I am yet to observe an interesting game with Idra commentating; so far it's been mostly boring ones and this plays a role as well.


I think that's why so many people like it...
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
May 12 2011 23:16 GMT
#10189
On May 13 2011 04:54 ziggurat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 00:10 xtfftc wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:20 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:19 blackone wrote:
On May 12 2011 20:15 xtfftc wrote:
It may sound stupid but Idra's analysis a bit too good in my opinion. In football, a commentator like him usually stays silent for most of the time to balance it out.. Otherwise it gets way too technical.

The difference is, almost everybody who watches Starcraft knows the game from playing it themselves, while the average football wathcer only knows it from watching it.


Yeah, it's sort of a different sport than football. You wouldn't complain about a chess commentator getting technical would you? =b

True - but last time I played chess there were no explosions. Analysis is important and Idra is one of the few who provide quality analysis but it's not about getting technical - it's about getting too technical. Idra's casting at the moment is more like giving us (free) lessons. Still, I am yet to observe an interesting game with Idra commentating; so far it's been mostly boring ones and this plays a role as well.


I think that's why so many people like it...


True - and there is no denying that he is impressive. Still, I feel that it is more suitable for Inside the Game or when commentating on his stream.

I feel like I'm about to attract the wrath of some Idra fans now. What I'm trying to say is that Idra is too good for the general audience, so he has to dumb down a bit (to, say, Artosis level and not Husky level) in order to fit better. At the moment listening to his commentary often equals spoiling the result of the games. :D
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 00:00:11
May 12 2011 23:44 GMT
#10190
True - but last time I played chess there were no explosions. Analysis is important and Idra is one of the few who provide quality analysis but it's not about getting technical - it's about getting too technical. Idra's casting at the moment is more like giving us (free) lessons. Still, I am yet to observe an interesting game with Idra commentating; so far it's been mostly boring ones and this plays a role as well.


Actually, in a broadcasting booth for a sports event, the color commentator - the position Idra is filling, I presume - is supposed to be the one providing "technical" commentary. He's the one who is supposed to go deeper in what he says than "out of position" or something that the [b]play-by-play[b] commentator should be saying.

Any good color commentator reveals the game behind the game. That's why color commentators are usually ex-players from whatever sport they're broadcasting.

At the moment listening to his commentary often equals spoiling the result of the games. :D


When a superior team is playing an inferior team in the NFL and is repeatedly just busting through their offensive line to punish the hell outta their QB, and it's pointed out that the former team simply can't stop the latter, is this spoiling the game? Yes, but only in the most limited sense. If a commentator "spoils" the game, you aren't watching closely enough, you should already know who is going to win long before Idra "tells" you.

What I'm trying to say is that Idra is too good for the general audience, so he has to dumb down a bit (to, say, Artosis level and not Husky level) in order to fit better.


Sorry this doesn't make sense. Being too good the way you're saying it... you're saying that since Idra is "too good" as a player, he has to to "dumb down" his commentary so we will understand it. Sorry, I'm not that buying that...

There is absolutely no difference in understanding of the game between players like Idra and anyone from diamond league up. The only difference is in execution. Idra has superior talent at taking what is in his head and making it real on the screen. That doesn't mean that people simply cannot understand what he is doing or why; it means they can't do it themselves.

I just don't understand how not being able to play at Idra's level means that you can't understand the game at his level, all it means is you can't play at his level. Not everyone can run an offense at the level of Tom Brady or scheme a defense at the level of Dick LeBeau, that doesn't mean we don't understand how a crossing route or the zone blitz works.

I mean, what do you think Idra could possibly say while commentating a game, about the game, that would fly over your head?
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Starlos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada191 Posts
May 13 2011 00:01 GMT
#10191
There is absolutely no difference in understanding of the game between players like Idra and anyone from diamond league up.

I disagree.
"you're really good at making carriers [...] very useful talent toi have" - IdrA
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 00:05:31
May 13 2011 00:03 GMT
#10192
I disagree.


I disagree entirely. Execution =!= understanding.

I've never seen Idra (or any pro) say or do something I didn't understand his reasoning, and if you actually tried to quantify how many times better he is than I am you'd probably have to go to like 25x plus.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 00:05 GMT
#10193
IdrA casting NASL today?!?! We we we so excited; we so excited
Starlos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 00:09:49
May 13 2011 00:08 GMT
#10194
On May 13 2011 09:03 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
I disagree.


I disagree entirely. Execution =!= understanding.

I've never seen Idra (or any pro) say or do something I didn't understand his reasoning, and if you actually tried to quantify how many times better he is than I am you'd probably have to go to like 25x plus.


The fact that you (and lots of people) can understand what IdrA's saying doesn't mean that his level of comprehension of the game is the same as yours. Don't forget that IdrA spend a lot of his time figuring out possible new styles of play, new build, etc. Things that your average diamond/master player wouldn't be able to do so easily.

PS: I understand whatever IdrA says, but it doesn't mean I have the same level of understanding than him.
"you're really good at making carriers [...] very useful talent toi have" - IdrA
Starlos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 00:09:15
May 13 2011 00:08 GMT
#10195
.
"you're really good at making carriers [...] very useful talent toi have" - IdrA
Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
May 13 2011 00:16 GMT
#10196
On May 13 2011 09:05 Whole wrote:
IdrA casting NASL today?!?! We we we so excited; we so excited

We gonna have a ball today.
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
May 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#10197
On May 13 2011 09:05 Whole wrote:
IdrA casting NASL today?!?! We we we so excited; we so excited



but it's not friday? O.o
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 00:19 GMT
#10198
On May 13 2011 09:17 integrity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2011 09:05 Whole wrote:
IdrA casting NASL today?!?! We we we so excited; we so excited



but it's not friday? O.o


everyday is friday when idra casts
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
May 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#10199
On May 12 2011 12:04 Geniuszerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 11:49 gosublade wrote:
Does Idra still play bw casually?

highly doubt it, swapping from bw to sc2 really ruins one's mechanics, espeically since the macro is a lot different, timing etc..

I guess that's why IdrA didn't do the best he ever did at the OSL qualifiers 3 months after the SC2 beta came out.

Oh wait, he did.
StarCraft64
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States354 Posts
May 13 2011 00:40 GMT
#10200
Good work on the nasl casting. Doesn't seem to be a great fit with gretorp though. Looking forward to an incontrol pairing.
Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy."
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