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xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 01:20:08
May 13 2011 00:51 GMT
#10201
On May 13 2011 08:44 DeepElemBlues wrote:
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True - but last time I played chess there were no explosions. Analysis is important and Idra is one of the few who provide quality analysis but it's not about getting technical - it's about getting too technical. Idra's casting at the moment is more like giving us (free) lessons. Still, I am yet to observe an interesting game with Idra commentating; so far it's been mostly boring ones and this plays a role as well.


Actually, in a broadcasting booth for a sports event, the color commentator - the position Idra is filling, I presume - is supposed to be the one providing "technical" commentary. He's the one who is supposed to go deeper in what he says than "out of position" or something that the [b]play-by-play[b] commentator should be saying.

Any good color commentator reveals the game behind the game. That's why color commentators are usually ex-players from whatever sport they're broadcasting.

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At the moment listening to his commentary often equals spoiling the result of the games. :D


When a superior team is playing an inferior team in the NFL and is repeatedly just busting through their offensive line to punish the hell outta their QB, and it's pointed out that the former team simply can't stop the latter, is this spoiling the game? Yes, but only in the most limited sense. If a commentator "spoils" the game, you aren't watching closely enough, you should already know who is going to win long before Idra "tells" you.

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What I'm trying to say is that Idra is too good for the general audience, so he has to dumb down a bit (to, say, Artosis level and not Husky level) in order to fit better.


Sorry this doesn't make sense. Being too good the way you're saying it... you're saying that since Idra is "too good" as a player, he has to to "dumb down" his commentary so we will understand it. Sorry, I'm not that buying that...

There is absolutely no difference in understanding of the game between players like Idra and anyone from diamond league up. The only difference is in execution. Idra has superior talent at taking what is in his head and making it real on the screen. That doesn't mean that people simply cannot understand what he is doing or why; it means they can't do it themselves.

I just don't understand how not being able to play at Idra's level means that you can't understand the game at his level, all it means is you can't play at his level. Not everyone can run an offense at the level of Tom Brady or scheme a defense at the level of Dick LeBeau, that doesn't mean we don't understand how a crossing route or the zone blitz works.

I mean, what do you think Idra could possibly say while commentating a game, about the game, that would fly over your head?


Uh... Okay. It feels like you've written way too much to say not as much, so I will be brief.

So, I said that analysis is important and that the problem is that with Idra the commentary gets too technical. You reply that analysis is important. I'm glad you agree.

The comparisson with football (and American football in your case)... StarCraft is a strategy game much more than a mechanics game. In football it is mostly the mechanics that are attractive to the viewers, while the differences between strategies are not as subtle. The commentators can not possibly spoil the game in the way a StarCraft game can be.

And finally, I don't think that viewers have a problem understanding Idra and never said anything like that, so I don't see the point of everything you've written after this claim.

However, I would like to point out that Idra does see much more than most of us. He doesn't just see who is going to win and has the advantage - he sees the precise way the player is going to utilise it and he sees it earlier. In SC:BW the observer would often intentionally keep some player's tech hidden in order to create more excitement. With Idra analysing it is the exact opposite.

P.S. Listening to tonight's NASL I can only assume that Idra and the NASL staff followed the same line of thought I did. :D
bloodmeat
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 00:56:44
May 13 2011 00:56 GMT
#10202
Sometimes people make fun of IdrA so I berate them with innappropriate language until they call me a noob IdrA fanboi. And then I'm all like, UH YEAH BRAH, WHAT CLUED YOU IN!!! FACE!!

I do that at least 14 times a day.

Also IdrA is awesome and I can't wait to watch him commentate NASL in t minus... right now!
Your mom is ruining esports.
GoBackToGo
Profile Joined July 2010
187 Posts
May 13 2011 00:57 GMT
#10203
idras commentating is A+
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 01:03:30
May 13 2011 00:59 GMT
#10204
IdrA gave a sneak peak on Cruncher and BM'ing him in a very calm way. soooo good


He had his run in TSL. He cheesed his way through koreans in a high latency environment, and that’s the sum of his accomplishments.


update: IdrA wishes he has a baguette!

edit2: this will be a live report thread on everything notable idra says XD
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
May 13 2011 01:03 GMT
#10205
New quotes:

On cruncher, "He had his run in TSL. He cheesed his way through koreans on high latency, and thats about the sum of his accomplishments.

On Baguettes, "I wish i had a baguette. Baguette's are quite tasty"
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 01:16 GMT
#10206
From IdrA's twitter:

Special treat tonight, me and @88iNcontroL cast cruncher vs ensnare


Just because he specifically mentioned it...I expect GREAT things.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
May 13 2011 01:18 GMT
#10207
What was the context of the baguettes quote?
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
May 13 2011 01:18 GMT
#10208
can we get a pic of idrA with a baguette? and a barre?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 01:20 GMT
#10209
On May 13 2011 10:18 xtfftc wrote:
What was the context of the baguettes quote?


Moman's NASL picture is him with a baguette because...

Grackula
Profile Joined May 2011
133 Posts
May 13 2011 01:20 GMT
#10210
On May 13 2011 10:18 xtfftc wrote:
What was the context of the baguettes quote?


They're tasty. There is no context.
Butterz
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
688 Posts
May 13 2011 01:32 GMT
#10211
LOL idras commentatory is so good
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 02:04:43
May 13 2011 02:01 GMT
#10212
Uh... Okay. It feels like you've written way too much to say not as much, so I will be brief.


Actually you just don't know what you're talking about, so you must preface your ignorance with an insult first.

I disagree, maybe he sees more than you, maybe he sees it more precisely and earlier than you, but that's your problem, not mine. I'd love to see Idra turn it up to 100%, whatever you think that may be, that would be great for me.

Maybe not for you, but I'm not concerned about you.

It's bad thinking created by bad attitude (bad in the sense of not optimal) to think that because you (or I, or whoever) can't play at Idra's level that we can't understand his pure unadulterated thoughts. It's also a back-handed kind of insult too Idra, "you couldn't make us understand you if you wanted to..." On the other hand it's also a compliment at the same time, "...because your brain runs so much harder and faster than ours (at SC2)."

I don't want Idra at 50% telling me what's up, I want him at 100% it's 100% awesomer =)

By the way, saying SC2 has more strategic depth and subtlety than a sport at the pro level like football or basketball or hockey or baseball (or any team sport) is just ridiculous, the 2-3 zone in basketball alone has more strategic depth and transitions and wrinkles and subtleties alone than the whole of SC2...
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 02:10 GMT
#10213
Both casting styles (100% analytical and super hype) have pros/cons. I'm fine with both actually. This week we have IdrA casting, so I think we should just enjoy this analysis for this one week. We have the rest of the NASL to get all super hyped and excited.

They're different...neither one is better.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 02:15 GMT
#10214
On May 13 2011 10:16 Whole wrote:
From IdrA's twitter:

Show nested quote +
Special treat tonight, me and @88iNcontroL cast cruncher vs ensnare


Just because he specifically mentioned it...I expect GREAT things.


Here we go! Get ready!!!
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
May 13 2011 02:19 GMT
#10215
Ahhhhh the Cruncher quote. Oh god. I ♥ Idra.
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mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 02:20:10
May 13 2011 02:19 GMT
#10216
Oh god IdrA commentating Cruncher
MKP||TSL
ExquisiteRed
Profile Joined February 2011
396 Posts
May 13 2011 02:19 GMT
#10217
omg idra
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 13 2011 02:21 GMT
#10218
he called him fat lol
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 13 2011 02:21 GMT
#10219
"do you have anything negative to say about him IdrA?"
"nah, I'm a pretty big fan of his"

loooooooooooooooool
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Tsenister
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom112 Posts
May 13 2011 02:22 GMT
#10220
On May 13 2011 11:19 mikyaJ wrote:
Oh god IdrA commentating Cruncher


Yeh he literally just called Cruncher some random flash in the pan fat guy that said hello to him at the elevator :/
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