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On March 05 2013 05:03 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 04:50 Aocowns wrote:On March 05 2013 04:47 blade55555 wrote:On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened. I can show you a replay of me beating a pure voidray/templar army as well as beating voidray/colossi/templar all maxed btw the protoss was 200/200 and I was able to kill it. It is possible, although very hard I have found the unit composition of hydra/ultra/swarmhost very strong verse it. Is it the counter? No idea I didn't get to test it out enough as the beta ended, but whenever I got that composition I rarely lost to a toss even when they got that mass voidray army. What kind of ratio did you have? Hm would have to look at the replays to know for sure but I would say 10-14 swarmhosts, 3-5 ultras rest hydralisks. Adding in vipers isn't a bad idea, but once toss gets a ton of templar it's useless (the viper) xD.
uhh, that sounds really supply heavy with ultras + vipers? Those 2 together sounds like it would leave way too few hydras to deal with VRs. or did you remax to kill it after taking away most of the storms?
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On March 04 2013 19:05 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 09:34 chinboii wrote:On March 04 2013 08:24 Starshaped wrote:On March 04 2013 08:19 Lonyo wrote:On March 04 2013 08:14 integrity wrote:
Can you guys please stop coming here to bash idra please?
there is always next time greg! GOOD LUCK!! 1) lol 2) That's what people have said over and over. Idra doesn't have the right mentality to win. If he did, he might try and win games which were possible to win, rather than quitting early every single time. He shouldn't be playing SC2 until he decides he wants to try and win, rather than assuming he should win and then raging when he doesn't get the win he thinks he should have. He doesn't have a winning attitude towards the game, and it's getting stale. People are probably coming here to bash him because they don't think he deserves invites, and it's his legion of fanboys who always say "next time" that manages to somehow get him invites he doesn't really deserve, through his popularity. He doesn't act like a professional, and he doesn't try to win. He doesn't need luck, he needs to actually try. The problem imo is that for idra there is absolutely no link between his fame/salary and his skill. Let's face it, he isn't a progamer, he is a personality. Raging and calling people bad is what gets him fans/haters/viewers/money. He hasn't been relevant for years but he doesn't HAVE to be relevant to be successful. He has a very privileged position all things considered, but sadly it's a position that does no good in motivating him to actually try to be good when being good is the most irrelevant part of his job. lol to be completely honest I would lose motivation to continue being the best if I was being paid as much as he does just for being himself. Don't lie you would too That's interesting I would personally feel more pressured to do well if I was getting paid to play sc2. It's how it works most people would feel pressure to play better not lose motivation because you start making money what kind of dumb logic is that? Idra is also a competitive person do you honestly think he enjoys not doing well? Do you think he doesn't care? No way if he didn't care he wouldn't get as mad as he does. He also plays quiet a bit of sc2 as well I don't know for sure how much but I know when he streams his stream sessions are like 6 hours long every time. He plays more then most foreigners do by just streaming 6 hours, I don't know how much practice he does out of it but man that means he's losing motivation!
okay you snapped but he definitely does not have the same winning mentality as the ro8 gsl idra.... and i was talking from a personal standpoint, not on behalf of idra. Personally I would love for him to leave EG and return to CJ entus but its his career and respect whatever he does.
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Idra had a great chance to win game 3, he left early. Minigun was out of money, and Idra had enough to rebuild his army and crush Minigun. Minigun didn't have enough Voids out yet to stop Idra. It was a good game, but Idra definitely had better than a 20% chance to win.
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While one can argue about the extent of the disadvantegous is their no way to claim that the game was "over".
If Idra had retreated after his last Ultra had fallen he had been about even in supply. On top of this did he have good creep spread, one additional base and a larger bank.
Sure late game protoss is strong, but is it that strong that you should gg just because the protoss player is starting to assembling an army in that direction while you still have an economic advantaged? I seriously doubt so.
Well this is what Idra does and a big reason to why he is so famous ^
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On March 05 2013 05:14 4ZakeN87 wrote:
While one can argue about the extent of the disadvantegous is their no way to claim that the game was "over".
If Idra had retreated after his last Ultra had fallen he had been about even in supply. On top of this did he have good creep spread, one additional base and a larger bank.
Sure late game protoss is strong, but is it that strong that you should gg just because the protoss player is starting to assembling an army in that direction while you still have an economic advantaged? I seriously doubt so.
Well this is what Idra does and a big reason to why he is so famous ^
yes it really is
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On March 05 2013 07:08 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 05:14 4ZakeN87 wrote:
While one can argue about the extent of the disadvantegous is their no way to claim that the game was "over".
If Idra had retreated after his last Ultra had fallen he had been about even in supply. On top of this did he have good creep spread, one additional base and a larger bank.
Sure late game protoss is strong, but is it that strong that you should gg just because the protoss player is starting to assembling an army in that direction while you still have an economic advantaged? I seriously doubt so.
Well this is what Idra does and a big reason to why he is so famous ^ yes it really is
It is why we have over 2700pages, however there comes a time where one has to ask if the content of those pages is worth keeping the attitude up.
Idra won and defied odds when zerg was the weakest, he will have to pick it up again, one more year just like 2012? Will Greg even tolerate that himself?
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On March 05 2013 08:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 07:08 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 05:14 4ZakeN87 wrote:
While one can argue about the extent of the disadvantegous is their no way to claim that the game was "over".
If Idra had retreated after his last Ultra had fallen he had been about even in supply. On top of this did he have good creep spread, one additional base and a larger bank.
Sure late game protoss is strong, but is it that strong that you should gg just because the protoss player is starting to assembling an army in that direction while you still have an economic advantaged? I seriously doubt so.
Well this is what Idra does and a big reason to why he is so famous ^ yes it really is It is why we have over 2700pages, however there comes a time where one has to ask if the content of those pages is worth keeping the attitude up. Idra won and defied odds when zerg was the weakest, he will have to pick it up again, one more year just like 2012? Will Greg even tolerate that himself?
I'm sure he will ^^ And while I cannot speak for him, I remember when he received the package from his fans last time. He likes to act like being a tough competitor is ALL that he is, but he looks to have a soft spot for us, his fans. And there's a lot of us that like to see him play, and win, and lose, and lash out, and make fun of people on ITG and do so much more.
Look at the games versus Minigun - he was incredibly unlikely to win those considering it's ZvP, it's Minigun and P has been buffed so very much against Z. Yet almost 20k people tuned in. And when he plays against Morrow in a few hours, a ton of people will watch too (and then there's Europeans like me that will watch the vods  ).
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Painful bunch of pages to read especially all these people arguing with Blade
If only they had 1/5 of the posting quality he has, maybe many of these 2700 pages wouldn't be filled with irrelevant argumentative shit from people coming in a regurgitating their armchair analyst and uninformed opinions about an individual they haven't liked from the beginning and have no intention on making an objective post about him
Oh man that felt good
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IdrA vs MorroW bo3 in ~2 hours for Day9 King of the Beta tournament! Hopefully a better series than the Minigun series.
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Damn it was painful to wake up, hope i didnt do that for 2x proxy reapers.
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It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame
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So manner of Idra to leave a game with 8k/3k bank.
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welp
I'm glad I don't play Zerg anymore.
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On March 05 2013 12:49 Forikorder wrote:http://www.twitch.tv/day9tvidra VS morrow on now based on cats VS whitera wont be the best series ever
"well"
"that was a moral victory at least"
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EG.IdrA[RC] has left the game, with 9k/3k banked.
Never change, Greg.
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On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote:
It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame
no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had
only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully
dont get why people keep pointing out IdrAs bank, Morow slaughtered IdrAs army and stayed maxxed the entire time Morrow was about to push out and just finish off IdrA
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On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote:
It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully
only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked
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On March 05 2013 13:10 Lefaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote:
It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked
you have a rpetty low opinion of Morrow if you think a non maxed Zerg army would ahve been able to do anything to such an entrecnhed position
its easy to say as an observer "there was an opening here" its almost impossible for IdrA to know what Morrow has
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On March 05 2013 13:11 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:10 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote:
It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked you have a rpetty low opinion of Morrow if you think a non maxed Zerg army would ahve been able to do anything to such an entrecnhed position its easy to say as an observer "there was an opening here" its almost impossible for IdrA to know what Morrow has
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he was maxed like 8 minutes and not attacking at all, why build a bank if u are not gonna use it anyway
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