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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
March 05 2013 14:07 GMT
#54641
Eh, to me it just sounds like Idra played bad again. He doesn't seem to be doing too well, even imbalances aside. I didn't see the games though
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
March 05 2013 14:11 GMT
#54642
toss now is little imba. need back fungal damage +10 vs armored.
Leberwurstbrot
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany144 Posts
March 05 2013 14:17 GMT
#54643
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

damn, so protoss is too stupid to just split his void rays a little bit? you cant chain fungle that easy like it was in wol. also hydras just suck against voids + hts, you can abduct as many voids as you want, storm will still just destroy your army
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 14:23:04
March 05 2013 14:22 GMT
#54644
On March 05 2013 23:07 Aocowns wrote:
Eh, to me it just sounds like Idra played bad again. He doesn't seem to be doing too well, even imbalances aside. I didn't see the games though

¨
He didnt play that badly. In game 1 he crushed morrow tank/thor army and i thought the game was over but morrow build like 10 planetary fortresses and turtled into raven viking combo and killed idras army easily. Game2 idra played really well and did overlorddrop into main while attacking the 3rd and killed morrow. G3 he just failed roach bane all in cos morrow had banshee. He doesnt play that badly, his midgame is pretty good but he got some real issues when entering the late game.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 15:54:40
March 05 2013 15:52 GMT
#54645
As an Idra fan it hurts watching Idra lose so embarrassing while even slumping Ret and slivko finds ways, minigun is good but he is no first and mc

Come on idra, there are ways
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
March 05 2013 16:09 GMT
#54646
On March 06 2013 00:52 Facultyadjutant wrote:
As an Idra fan it hurts watching Idra lose so embarrassing while even slumping Ret and slivko finds ways, minigun is good but he is no first and mc

Come on idra, there are ways


Hopefully he can watch the VOD's and get some idea's for new builds/strategy.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 05 2013 17:13 GMT
#54647
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 17:21:20
March 05 2013 17:21 GMT
#54648
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 05 2013 17:24 GMT
#54649
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
March 05 2013 17:28 GMT
#54650
On March 06 2013 00:52 Facultyadjutant wrote:
As an Idra fan it hurts watching Idra lose so embarrassing while even slumping Ret and slivko finds ways, minigun is good but he is no first and mc

Come on idra, there are ways


stupid to compare, mc vs ret was stupid game, mc looked like he had never seen hots. He had no idea how to deal with swarmhosts properly etc. And silviko lost right away when his opponent realized that he should build voidrays.
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
March 05 2013 17:32 GMT
#54651
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 17:36:41
March 05 2013 17:34 GMT
#54652
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 05 2013 17:35 GMT
#54653
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

when does HoTS come out again? oh ya the 12th noone is good at HoTS right now especially players like parting who havent been playing it much

MLG will probably be crap since still noone will no how to play it if IPL 6 was one we might have seen some decent games there

by the end of the month people will know hoTS well enough that well actually see a decent game
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 18:05:59
March 05 2013 18:04 GMT
#54654
On March 06 2013 02:34 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.



It's two of the best korean control in the business... - Like said on stream, you got to engage when voidraycharge is off, fungal is perfect for that. And even so its a malformed assertion ''lol if he just controls perfectely'' yeah just as zerg can control perfectly.

Get over it...

The important thing here is: There are ways

Why is there even a need to defend this stupidity? God this fanclub with its coming and going fans saying the same thing over and over. Not to even talk about how many times terran got figured out; you got the whole damn protoss period ''it's impossible, ''david kim nerf pls'' and stephano came along and actually did something.

Of course Ret's and Slivko games are comparable, saying otherwise is silly. Should idra sit here for a whole year til hots is ''figured out'' for him?

No, of course not, and he probably isn't even. He probably is testing the things that happened in iem, he is probably testing new things - in contrast to this rubbish that defends the foolish side of a player rather then propagate the progressive one.
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 05 2013 18:13 GMT
#54655
On March 06 2013 03:04 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:34 Lefaa wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.



It's two of the best korean control in the business... - Like said on stream, you got to engage when voidraycharge is off, fungal is perfect for that. And even so its a malformed assertion ''lol if he just controls perfectely'' yeah just as zerg can control perfectly.

Get over it...

The important thing here is: There are ways

Why is there even a need to defend this stupidity? God this fanclub with its coming and going fans saying the same thing over and over. Not to even talk about how many times terran got figured out; you got the whole damn protoss period ''it's impossible, ''david kim nerf pls'' and stephano came along and actually did something.

Of course Ret's and Slivko games are comparable, saying otherwise is silly. Should idra sit here for a whole year til hots is ''figured out'' for him?

No, of course not, and he probably isn't even. He probably is testing the things that happened in iem, he is probably testing new things - in contrast to this rubbish that defends the foolish side of a player rather then propagate the progressive one.


noone ever said protoss was impossible before Stephano came in dont be dumb

just watch, a couple weeks after release well see Protoss with 80% win rate in PvZ
Viperpro
Profile Joined October 2012
Thailand9 Posts
March 05 2013 18:20 GMT
#54656
hey guys now what mouse idra uses?

razer Deathadder 2013 or Razer Abyssus

thk u
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
March 05 2013 18:37 GMT
#54657
On March 06 2013 03:13 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 03:04 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:34 Lefaa wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
[quote]
don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.



It's two of the best korean control in the business... - Like said on stream, you got to engage when voidraycharge is off, fungal is perfect for that. And even so its a malformed assertion ''lol if he just controls perfectely'' yeah just as zerg can control perfectly.

Get over it...

The important thing here is: There are ways

Why is there even a need to defend this stupidity? God this fanclub with its coming and going fans saying the same thing over and over. Not to even talk about how many times terran got figured out; you got the whole damn protoss period ''it's impossible, ''david kim nerf pls'' and stephano came along and actually did something.

Of course Ret's and Slivko games are comparable, saying otherwise is silly. Should idra sit here for a whole year til hots is ''figured out'' for him?

No, of course not, and he probably isn't even. He probably is testing the things that happened in iem, he is probably testing new things - in contrast to this rubbish that defends the foolish side of a player rather then propagate the progressive one.


noone ever said protoss was impossible before Stephano came in dont be dumb

just watch, a couple weeks after release well see Protoss with 80% win rate in PvZ


You are joking right? Pulling my chain? Pulling a fast one? Twiddling the tiddletop? Fiddledoddling the poddlenoodle?

Of course you are, otherwise I would be worried for the world because you can actually vote
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chinboii
Profile Joined August 2012
41 Posts
March 05 2013 18:48 GMT
#54658
Guys, IdrA plays well against people who are good and know that they're doing, so IdrA is able to read them ingame. People like minigun just blindly play the game and just mass up a deathball to roll over the zerg (this is how protoss works in sc2 unfortunately). When the game has matured and metagames are well established, IdrA will bounce back to the top. Mark my words
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
March 05 2013 19:08 GMT
#54659
On March 06 2013 03:04 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 02:34 Lefaa wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:
On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote:
well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now

don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)

"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.




Of course Ret's and Slivko games are comparable, saying otherwise is silly. Should idra sit here for a whole year til hots is ''figured out'' for him?



You really didnt get what i meant. I meant that when silviko won he didnt face anything that idra is struggling with nor things we call "imbalanced". And when the voidrays showed up he lost every game and wrote "imba imba imba" to the chat. I only watched ret vs. mc and mc played pretty badly compared his normal skill level. He derped against mutas and in 2nd game it seemed like he had never seen swarmhosts before. Im not saying rets mix is bad nor he is bad player. In fact i have seen idra using same style as ret on last days of beta.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
March 05 2013 22:52 GMT
#54660
On March 06 2013 03:37 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 03:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 03:04 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:34 Lefaa wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:32 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:24 Forikorder wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:21 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On March 06 2013 02:13 Forikorder wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 xsnac wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:
[quote]
"a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now


lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?

abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?

i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .

fungal lost its +armoured and does only 30 damage now, you ahve any idea how long it would actually take to fungal VRs to death? especially with tempests and HTs killing your infesters?


About 1 more fungal than slivko had

It is possible - we even got more range now

its only possible if the Protoss is very very bad, any decent pro will split the VRs enough that fungal just doesnt work and will kill the Infesters before they can get many off

collosus VR was actually a common build a while ago (like during scrap station) its actually the build that got fungal buffed in the first place because Zerg had no AA that could beat it effectively, the only way to kill it was max out on corrupters and clean up all the VRs and Collosus and then remax to deal with whats left (which was near impossible to pull off) but in HoTS VRs dont lose to corrupters so you cant even do that


He played yongwah, prating and hasuobs....

yeah and parting didnt split his voidrays at all, vice versa. Only way fungal works vs voidrays is toss just clump up all VRs like parting did, othervise u wont have enough energy to kill VRs/your infestors are dead before killing VRs.



It's two of the best korean control in the business... - Like said on stream, you got to engage when voidraycharge is off, fungal is perfect for that. And even so its a malformed assertion ''lol if he just controls perfectely'' yeah just as zerg can control perfectly.

Get over it...

The important thing here is: There are ways

Why is there even a need to defend this stupidity? God this fanclub with its coming and going fans saying the same thing over and over. Not to even talk about how many times terran got figured out; you got the whole damn protoss period ''it's impossible, ''david kim nerf pls'' and stephano came along and actually did something.

Of course Ret's and Slivko games are comparable, saying otherwise is silly. Should idra sit here for a whole year til hots is ''figured out'' for him?

No, of course not, and he probably isn't even. He probably is testing the things that happened in iem, he is probably testing new things - in contrast to this rubbish that defends the foolish side of a player rather then propagate the progressive one.


noone ever said protoss was impossible before Stephano came in dont be dumb

just watch, a couple weeks after release well see Protoss with 80% win rate in PvZ


You are joking right? Pulling my chain? Pulling a fast one? Twiddling the tiddletop? Fiddledoddling the poddlenoodle?

Of course you are, otherwise I would be worried for the world because you can actually vote

stephano apeared after BL infester was invented and before the immo sentry all-in so he apeared when ZvP was the most balanced (which means at the point where people were saying protoss was jsut hard to beat not impossible)
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