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On March 05 2013 13:13 Lefaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:11 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:10 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote: It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked you have a rpetty low opinion of Morrow if you think a non maxed Zerg army would ahve been able to do anything to such an entrecnhed position its easy to say as an observer "there was an opening here" its almost impossible for IdrA to know what Morrow has ¨ he was maxed like 8 minutes and not attacking at all, why build a bank if u are not gonna use it anyway
the bank wouldnt help, it doesnt matter how many armies he throws at morrow morrow already won when he secured the 5th
hell morrow won when he secured the 4th
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He attacked right when he had maxed on Brood Lord/Corruptor/Infestor. That was clearly a bad choice from a spectators perspective, but at least pay attention to the game before you comment on it.
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On March 05 2013 13:19 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:13 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:11 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:10 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote: It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked you have a rpetty low opinion of Morrow if you think a non maxed Zerg army would ahve been able to do anything to such an entrecnhed position its easy to say as an observer "there was an opening here" its almost impossible for IdrA to know what Morrow has ¨ he was maxed like 8 minutes and not attacking at all, why build a bank if u are not gonna use it anyway the bank wouldnt help, it doesnt matter how many armies he throws at morrow morrow already won when he secured the 5th hell morrow won when he secured the 4th
actually i think if he had thrown ultacavern earlier he would have curshed morrow because he had only couple of siege tanks and no thors, planetarys are not that good
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That last game was fantastic. Great play from IdrA! Lets see if he can finish it out!
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On March 05 2013 13:21 Lefaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:19 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:13 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:11 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:10 Lefaa wrote:On March 05 2013 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 13:06 HotGlueGun wrote: It's getting really hard to be an IdrA fan... Hope he just goes for some midgame timing because he seems lost lategame no he couldnt beat the amry Morrow had especially with the econ morrow had only mistake of IdrAs was allowing Morrow to get the economy he had but Morrow was doing it insanely carefully only mistake he did was not applying any pressure, didnt attack when he had infestor bl and morrow had 2 vikings. i think even master zerg would have won that game if he just attacked you have a rpetty low opinion of Morrow if you think a non maxed Zerg army would ahve been able to do anything to such an entrecnhed position its easy to say as an observer "there was an opening here" its almost impossible for IdrA to know what Morrow has ¨ he was maxed like 8 minutes and not attacking at all, why build a bank if u are not gonna use it anyway the bank wouldnt help, it doesnt matter how many armies he throws at morrow morrow already won when he secured the 5th hell morrow won when he secured the 4th actually i think if he had thrown ultacavern earlier he would have curshed morrow because he had only couple of siege tanks and no thors, planetarys are not that good multiple planetarys are, hed have 2 planetarys at the 5th causing a nice choke and enough SCVs to repare it long enough for the siege tanks to clear out the ultras
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On March 05 2013 13:20 WolfintheSheep wrote: He attacked right when he had maxed on Brood Lord/Corruptor/Infestor. That was clearly a bad choice from a spectators perspective, but at least pay attention to the game before you comment on it.
he was maxed longer than that he just added spines and drones here and there, and then threw away roaches. He could have attacked before that
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On March 05 2013 13:22 Lefaa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 13:20 WolfintheSheep wrote: He attacked right when he had maxed on Brood Lord/Corruptor/Infestor. That was clearly a bad choice from a spectators perspective, but at least pay attention to the game before you comment on it. he was maxed longer than that he just added spines and drones here and there, and then threw away roaches. He could have attacked before that As I said, he was clearly waiting to max on Brood Lord/Corruptor/Infestor. Hence throwing away Roaches and replacing them with corruptors.
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Wtf... At least try... Minigun G3 was somewhat excusable, this was not at all
Edit: Catz offered a good explanation on Reddit, and he said IdrA was basically dead.
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at least he gg!
he really shouldnt be that bad with that amount of training, He has played much better on ladder than in these games. I know he has always been not-so-good in online tournaments, buts still. What is going on?
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I honestly thought it was morrow who gg'd. Wtf
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Idra, you dissapointed me, I expected better play from you... Your macro, micro and decision making were not on par we expected from you
... Sad day
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Always been a big fan of Idra and will probably never stop watching his games, but that was just ugly in game 1 and 3.
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Next time Idra ! W'e'll keep cheering!
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Whilst there are a lot of flaws in Idras play (Make no mistake I'm a big fan and will always support him) I feel if Zerg is the weakest late game army in HotS before any patches he's going to have a lot of trouble, as in tournament play he will go for lategame 70-80% of the time.
Watching him lose makes me sad because I'm not sure whether Zerg is weak right now in HotS or he is just getting outplayed, feel like it is a bit of both. He's always had a mental thing vs Morrow and Minigun, I wouldn't be sounding the alarm bells right now but the next few months for him will tell us a lot.
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On March 05 2013 17:11 schmutttt wrote: Whilst there are a lot of flaws in Idras play (Make no mistake I'm a big fan and will always support him) I feel if Zerg is the weakest late game army in HotS before any patches he's going to have a lot of trouble, as in tournament play he will go for lategame 70-80% of the time.
Watching him lose makes me sad because I'm not sure whether Zerg is weak right now in HotS or he is just getting outplayed, feel like it is a bit of both. He's always had a mental thing vs Morrow and Minigun, I wouldn't be sounding the alarm bells right now but the next few months for him will tell us a lot.
I do think zerg has the weakest late game right now, but the games he played were kind of him getting out played sadly. I didn't see game 1 of him vs morrow, saw game 2/3 he played extremely well game 2 and game 3 he did an all in and failed (don't think he should have left but I know he probably didn't care enough to stay as morrow is a really good player).
His games vs minigun were just well he got out played for the most part, he had game 2 won but didn't transition fast enough and yeah not going to go into those games again.
I just hope he stops going roach/hydra vs protoss soon as it's a bad composition imo.
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On March 05 2013 17:16 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 17:11 schmutttt wrote: Whilst there are a lot of flaws in Idras play (Make no mistake I'm a big fan and will always support him) I feel if Zerg is the weakest late game army in HotS before any patches he's going to have a lot of trouble, as in tournament play he will go for lategame 70-80% of the time.
Watching him lose makes me sad because I'm not sure whether Zerg is weak right now in HotS or he is just getting outplayed, feel like it is a bit of both. He's always had a mental thing vs Morrow and Minigun, I wouldn't be sounding the alarm bells right now but the next few months for him will tell us a lot. I do think zerg has the weakest late game right now, but the games he played were kind of him getting out played sadly. I didn't see game 1 of him vs morrow, saw game 2/3 he played extremely well game 2 and game 3 he did an all in and failed (don't think he should have left but I know he probably didn't care enough to stay as morrow is a really good player). His games vs minigun were just well he got out played for the most part, he had game 2 won but didn't transition fast enough and yeah not going to go into those games again. I just hope he stops going roach/hydra vs protoss soon as it's a bad composition imo.
It works, you just got to hit timings which Idra missed because his bases got destroyed
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well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now
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On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote: well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say)
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On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote: well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say) "a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now
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On March 05 2013 23:05 Leberwurstbrot wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 22:16 ETisME wrote:On March 05 2013 20:44 kingtut wrote: well fuck, i feel like hots is just going to be sc2 year 2012 part 2 for idra now don't be surprised, hots is basically an update to wol. if idra isn't doing well when Zerg is arguably OP in WoL, what would you expected in hots where zerg is a little bit underpowered (or so some say) "a little bit underpowered" ... pls, the game is totally broken right now
lol whats broken ? voidray vs chain fungals guess who wins ?
abduct into a ball of hydralisk guess what unit win ?
i hope idra understands those things and he starts kicking ass the game is perfecly fine you just have to abuse it .
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