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On March 04 2013 08:24 Starshaped wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:19 Lonyo wrote:On March 04 2013 08:14 integrity wrote:
Can you guys please stop coming here to bash idra please?
there is always next time greg! GOOD LUCK!! 1) lol 2) That's what people have said over and over. Idra doesn't have the right mentality to win. If he did, he might try and win games which were possible to win, rather than quitting early every single time. He shouldn't be playing SC2 until he decides he wants to try and win, rather than assuming he should win and then raging when he doesn't get the win he thinks he should have. He doesn't have a winning attitude towards the game, and it's getting stale. People are probably coming here to bash him because they don't think he deserves invites, and it's his legion of fanboys who always say "next time" that manages to somehow get him invites he doesn't really deserve, through his popularity. He doesn't act like a professional, and he doesn't try to win. He doesn't need luck, he needs to actually try. The problem imo is that for idra there is absolutely no link between his fame/salary and his skill. Let's face it, he isn't a progamer, he is a personality. Raging and calling people bad is what gets him fans/haters/viewers/money. He hasn't been relevant for years but he doesn't HAVE to be relevant to be successful. He has a very privileged position all things considered, but sadly it's a position that does no good in motivating him to actually try to be good when being good is the most irrelevant part of his job.
lol to be completely honest I would lose motivation to continue being the best if I was being paid as much as he does just for being himself. Don't lie you would too
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Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra...
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On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra...
Part of being his fan. About as frustrating as his MMA RQ.
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On March 04 2013 08:24 Starshaped wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:19 Lonyo wrote:On March 04 2013 08:14 integrity wrote:
Can you guys please stop coming here to bash idra please?
there is always next time greg! GOOD LUCK!! 1) lol 2) That's what people have said over and over. Idra doesn't have the right mentality to win. If he did, he might try and win games which were possible to win, rather than quitting early every single time. He shouldn't be playing SC2 until he decides he wants to try and win, rather than assuming he should win and then raging when he doesn't get the win he thinks he should have. He doesn't have a winning attitude towards the game, and it's getting stale. People are probably coming here to bash him because they don't think he deserves invites, and it's his legion of fanboys who always say "next time" that manages to somehow get him invites he doesn't really deserve, through his popularity. He doesn't act like a professional, and he doesn't try to win. He doesn't need luck, he needs to actually try. The problem imo is that for idra there is absolutely no link between his fame/salary and his skill. Let's face it, he isn't a progamer, he is a personality. Raging and calling people bad is what gets him fans/haters/viewers/money. He hasn't been relevant for years but he doesn't HAVE to be relevant to be successful. He has a very privileged position all things considered, but sadly it's a position that does no good in motivating him to actually try to be good when being good is the most irrelevant part of his job.
WCS was a fluke then right?
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Now that I'm less emotional and have slept, I feel IdrA should've played out that last game out  Oh well.
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On March 04 2013 15:02 ConGee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Part of being his fan. About as frustrating as his MMA RQ.
Idra had about a 20% chance to win game 3 (quoting TT1 from the LR thread) and the MMA game was a near-certain win for Idra. Not even comparable.
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God not this again, why do we always have a discussion about his?
We have seen the results of him leaving early trough these years. We actually know what it has given.
His rage quits have done nothing for him, they have lost him so many tournaments
Just
Stick
In
The
Game
For
The
Love
Of
God
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On March 04 2013 09:34 chinboii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 08:24 Starshaped wrote:On March 04 2013 08:19 Lonyo wrote:On March 04 2013 08:14 integrity wrote:
Can you guys please stop coming here to bash idra please?
there is always next time greg! GOOD LUCK!! 1) lol 2) That's what people have said over and over. Idra doesn't have the right mentality to win. If he did, he might try and win games which were possible to win, rather than quitting early every single time. He shouldn't be playing SC2 until he decides he wants to try and win, rather than assuming he should win and then raging when he doesn't get the win he thinks he should have. He doesn't have a winning attitude towards the game, and it's getting stale. People are probably coming here to bash him because they don't think he deserves invites, and it's his legion of fanboys who always say "next time" that manages to somehow get him invites he doesn't really deserve, through his popularity. He doesn't act like a professional, and he doesn't try to win. He doesn't need luck, he needs to actually try. The problem imo is that for idra there is absolutely no link between his fame/salary and his skill. Let's face it, he isn't a progamer, he is a personality. Raging and calling people bad is what gets him fans/haters/viewers/money. He hasn't been relevant for years but he doesn't HAVE to be relevant to be successful. He has a very privileged position all things considered, but sadly it's a position that does no good in motivating him to actually try to be good when being good is the most irrelevant part of his job. lol to be completely honest I would lose motivation to continue being the best if I was being paid as much as he does just for being himself. Don't lie you would too
That's interesting I would personally feel more pressured to do well if I was getting paid to play sc2. It's how it works most people would feel pressure to play better not lose motivation because you start making money what kind of dumb logic is that?
Idra is also a competitive person do you honestly think he enjoys not doing well? Do you think he doesn't care? No way if he didn't care he wouldn't get as mad as he does. He also plays quiet a bit of sc2 as well I don't know for sure how much but I know when he streams his stream sessions are like 6 hours long every time. He plays more then most foreigners do by just streaming 6 hours, I don't know how much practice he does out of it but man that means he's losing motivation!
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On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra...
Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all.
Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely.
Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened.
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On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened.
Just watch the last 10 seconds. Idra stays under the voidrays after killing most of Miniguns army and loses about 20 pop without doing anything. Minigun is at 140 pop with some voidrays being his backbone but he has no money to remax and trade with idra. And idra did not even had to confront that army from that point on, just attack on different spots on the map like any zerg would and spread the toss thin while crippling him. But as idra stated he likes to force the toss out of the game in head to head battles, like rain dears do. Well..he got knocked out flat.
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Guys stop discussing this already, game was far from being over, whether his chances of winning were 20% or 40% is irrelevant. Tbh I think that 2 game was the biggest dissapointment, he held the immo all in well just needed to scout which all in is minigun going for and get a decent engagement. I really dont get why he can sometimes play so good on ladder and then fail so bad when it matters . Hopefully he will do better in the next tournament!
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On March 05 2013 02:32 IronyDK wrote:Minigun had voidrays, IdrA didnt have a proper AA option. It was deff loss.
? Hydra.
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On March 05 2013 04:26 Yora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 02:32 IronyDK wrote:Minigun had voidrays, IdrA didnt have a proper AA option. It was deff loss. ? Hydra.
oh you poor poor soul
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On March 05 2013 04:26 Yora wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 02:32 IronyDK wrote:Minigun had voidrays, IdrA didnt have a proper AA option. It was deff loss. ? Hydra.
its nice to see them when there young and still full of hope before HoTS crushs it
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I lol'd. Still had the vipers, a good bank, many hatcheries, and many tech options. Hydras are a good asset.
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On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened.
I can show you a replay of me beating a pure voidray/templar army as well as beating voidray/colossi/templar all maxed btw the protoss was 200/200 and I was able to kill it.
It is possible, although very hard I have found the unit composition of hydra/ultra/swarmhost very strong verse it. Is it the counter? No idea I didn't get to test it out enough as the beta ended, but whenever I got that composition I rarely lost to a toss even when they got that mass voidray army.
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On March 05 2013 04:47 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened. I can show you a replay of me beating a pure voidray/templar army as well as beating voidray/colossi/templar all maxed btw the protoss was 200/200 and I was able to kill it. It is possible, although very hard I have found the unit composition of hydra/ultra/swarmhost very strong verse it. Is it the counter? No idea I didn't get to test it out enough as the beta ended, but whenever I got that composition I rarely lost to a toss even when they got that mass voidray army.
What kind of ratio did you have?
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On March 05 2013 04:50 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 04:47 blade55555 wrote:On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened. I can show you a replay of me beating a pure voidray/templar army as well as beating voidray/colossi/templar all maxed btw the protoss was 200/200 and I was able to kill it. It is possible, although very hard I have found the unit composition of hydra/ultra/swarmhost very strong verse it. Is it the counter? No idea I didn't get to test it out enough as the beta ended, but whenever I got that composition I rarely lost to a toss even when they got that mass voidray army. What kind of ratio did you have?
Hm would have to look at the replays to know for sure but I would say 10-14 swarmhosts, 3-5 ultras rest hydralisks. Adding in vipers isn't a bad idea, but once toss gets a ton of templar it's useless (the viper) xD.
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On March 05 2013 04:47 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 19:09 Ghanburighan wrote:On March 04 2013 14:51 ceaRshaf wrote:
Omg at all these ignorant people arguing with Blade. Accept plz that Stephano for instance could have won the game from that point. Idra player really well in game 3 but after the big battle he just rage quitted.Why? Becuase the toss did not lose in one battle? That's the sc2 he wants, a one decisive battle? From that point the toss was going only down as he had no money to trade with idra.
Goddam idra... Why are you so militant? I don't think that was much of an IdrA gg at all. Blade is right, to an extent. There's a chance to win that game. But as TT1 said right after the game, the chance is about 20%. The P had all the tech he wanted, his air army was literally untouched. And he had enought bases with cannons to just remax safely. Idra didn't have an air transition available due to upgrades. And, to be honest, I haven't seen any army beat the P lategame air army, let alone one that's weakened. I can show you a replay of me beating a pure voidray/templar army as well as beating voidray/colossi/templar all maxed btw the protoss was 200/200 and I was able to kill it. It is possible, although very hard I have found the unit composition of hydra/ultra/swarmhost very strong verse it. Is it the counter? No idea I didn't get to test it out enough as the beta ended, but whenever I got that composition I rarely lost to a toss even when they got that mass voidray army.
Yes, of course I want your replays ^^ Can't wait to see a good player show me how to play against that.
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