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Himbeer
Switzerland176 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:52 senty wrote: Well, it sure does seem like hes negative mindset is back again:/ I've noticed this too...it brings back a lot of sadness and disappointment to my life  Idra is pretty much the only American that I can root for in big events (and "reasonably" expect good results). le sigh | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:49 Facultyadjutant wrote: If he didn't get idra's spire (Great pointing that out) I still don't think by anyway it wasn't a legitimate gg, his base was just going down to terrans and in a roach hydra vs roach hydra battle symbol was clearly going to win. However It depends if idra had infestors with much energy, if he did then I think it was weird he left. That is true ONLY if you assume the other player won't make any mistakes to let you get back into the game tho, And that's Idra's biggest problem, he always assumes the other player will play perfect and therefore there is no point playing a game from behind; but in reality, players make mistakes all the time (especially a lot of the lesser players he plays), and players win games from behind all the time. He's turning all his "10-30%" chance to win games into 0%. | ||
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senty
62 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:52 Suichoy wrote: His mindset has always been like this, but he's always entertaining to watch and listen to I guess. Not really, when he won IEM he was in good shape, cant remember what serier that brought back his mindset, I remember watching those series tho, might've been vs a P | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Which is ironic, because he made it a bad game by giving up. No doubt there will be plenty of apologists though. TBH, it's quite a lot the fault of his team. If you have a player with such a terrible attitude and mindset, surely the team has some level of responsibility to try and improve upon it. | ||
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Fyrn
Germany62 Posts
So a "gg" when you have an army advantage on equal supply isn't premature, because ..the enemy got 3 shots and a fungal off? I'm totally looking forward to that becoming the norm then. Mvp vs. DRG GSL final, DRG rolls into a sieging tank line with 120 supply worth of lings and banelings, the tanks fire 3 shots, 15 zerglings die, DRG leaves. Awesome game! | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
 and if hes out, ill just go do something else | ||
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Hypemeup
Sweden2783 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:54 Perseverance wrote: I've noticed this too...it brings back a lot of sadness and disappointment to my life Idra is pretty much the only American that I can root for in big events (and "reasonably" expect good results). le sigh Nah man Sheth is easy to root for too! | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:55 Fyrn wrote: So a "gg" when you have an army advantage on equal supply isn't premature, because ..the enemy got 3 shots and a fungal off? I'm totally looking forward to that becoming the norm then. Mvp vs. DRG GSL final, DRG rolls into a sieging tank line with 120 supply worth of lings and banelings, the tanks fire 3 shots, 15 zerglings die, DRG leaves. Awesome game! stfu plz. | ||
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Morrisson
289 Posts
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Lefaa
Finland313 Posts
He should shut up because you disagree with him? | ||
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Fortii
Germany760 Posts
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:53 NeonFox wrote: That's nice being condescendant and tell people they are bad but either you made stuff up or you made mistakes. His greater spire was at his third, Idra's bank was bigger than Symbols while he was 80 supply ahead. Let me break this down for you, this means that once symbol remaxes he'll have much less money then now whereas Idra only has to build 20 supply to max. Also, symbol was making corrupters and would not have broodlords in time. And the best part for Idra, Symbol wasted all his infestor energy on killing a base. Idra could hit symbol without infestor energy, as symbol was remaxing (remember 180 supply Idra vs 100 supply symbol), as he has corrupters that are useless vs roach/hydra/infestor. IdrA spent his bank to be 80 supply ahead. At that point, Symbol had a lot more money, he just hadn't spent it yet. You can't have it both ways. IdrA was ahead in supply but down on bank. A screenshot of the end of the replay would show this. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:59 Thrax wrote: IdrA spent his bank to be 80 supply ahead. At that point, Symbol had a lot more money, he just hadn't spent it yet. You can't have it both ways. IdrA was ahead in supply but down on bank. A screenshot of the end of the reply would show this. So is there anything to lose by just going all out on one final attack when you're 80 supplies ahead and they used all their infestor energy? | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:58 Lefaa wrote: He should shut up because you disagree with him? No, he should shut up because he's wrong. Idra was in terrible position that game. No way to attack up that ramp, and his 3rd was lost for sure, What does he do then? Play 2 base vs 3 base with worse upgrades and worse unit composition, soon to be worse supply, andjust generally wast time playing a lost game? The second game was lost. It wasn't early leave. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:00 Fubi wrote: So is there anything to lose by just going all out on one final attack when you're 80 supplies ahead and they used all their infestor energy? Absolutely not! IdrA was behind, but he wasn't dead. Worst that could have happened is that he lost, but he did just that by GGing. | ||
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Dawg_Snow
France425 Posts
On March 15 2012 05:57 Fortii wrote: stfu plz. lol you are so good at arguing, u mad even if you are behind, you fight till last breath, i am always amazed how kor players just won't leave. User was warned for this post | ||
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Lefaa
Finland313 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:02 Aocowns wrote: No, he should shut up because he's wrong. Idra was in terrible position that game. No way to attack up that ramp, and his 3rd was lost for sure, What does he do then? Play 2 base vs 3 base with worse upgrades and worse unit composition, soon to be worse supply, andjust generally wast time playing a lost game? The second game was lost. It wasn't early leave. At least he could have answered like you. I agree that it wasn't early leave in game 2 but in game 1 he could have given a try, at least viewers would have seen another big fight. He is in the wrong business if he doesn't care about audience. | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:02 Aocowns wrote: No, he should shut up because he's wrong. Idra was in terrible position that game. No way to attack up that ramp, and his 3rd was lost for sure, What does he do then? Play 2 base vs 3 base with worse upgrades and worse unit composition, soon to be worse supply, andjust generally wast time playing a lost game? The second game was lost. It wasn't early leave. The logic is, if you're going to lose anyways (by gg'ing), why would you not just go all out for one final attack, or play it out in hope that your opponent makes a big blunder to let you back in? The goal of the game is to win, there is no rational reason to turn your 10%-30% chance to win into 0%. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:09 Lefaa wrote: At least he could have answered like you. I agree that it wasn't early leave in game 2 but in game 1 he could have given a try, at least viewers would have seen another big fight. He is in the wrong business if he doesn't care about audience. hes taking away from his rpactice time to stream for us, id say he cares | ||
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