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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 20:35:09
February 06 2013 20:32 GMT
#91121
On February 07 2013 05:11 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:04 DystopiaX wrote:
Eh Exo apparently failed in Korea and they're from sm.
I just want more comebacks from old groups...2pm/shinee in particular. Fck debuting rookies.

Really? One of the best male debuts of 2012 imo.
Both Exos failing, or just exo-k?

Both really. My friends echo what has been said in this thread before, that the rush of idol groups really hasn't done much. What I hear is that basically the last group to hit any sort of real popularity/mainstream recognition is A Pink, and even then they're barely known and only Eunji is known on an individual member basis (for Reply 1997). At this point it's just that the number of groups have saturated the market, and even if you're talented or pushed well (and as a group that had something like 3 dozen teasers leading up to their debut EXO sure was promoted) there's just too many groups vying for attention. Even groups that have sort of caught on in the international community like BAP aren't really well known- like I said, AKP prints a lot of shit and Korean entertainment news sites are known to accept money in return for positive articles (MYNAME lately has been the biggest culprit of this) and generally shitty journalism in general (the same reason ESPN broadcasts really dumb stories, because on a 24/7 cycle you just need shit to report), which leads to the false perception in the international community that Koreans really know who these dudes are. The only idol acts that have really caught on from 2nd half of 2011 onward are like Juniel and Ailee (and Busker Busker if you count them, which I don't). Everyone else has largely gone unrecognized, or are popular only among whatever the Korean equivalent of wotas are.

I figured this was the case, but for EXO, really surprised. Mama and History were really good imo. Even the Mando-pop equivalent.
liftlift > tsm
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
February 06 2013 21:00 GMT
#91122
On February 07 2013 04:58 nanashin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 03:31 DwD wrote: + Show Spoiler +

I'm somewhat sure the new YG girl group will be successful but I'd say it's only because it's YG. Their fans seems to be more on the same page and everyone supports everyone pretty much. A big company behind you is great but it it only goes so far.

Look at GangKiz for example. Spent a fuck ton on MV's, mad hype etc and now where are they? Like 10:ish months since they released anything and I haven't heard anything about them either.

Seven months, with which CCM pushed T-ara, debuted The Seeya + secondary promo, and ...redebuted(?) Speed. Not like there was any room to have them make a comeback. Granted an OST or variety/drama/movie face time would have been a sign of health.
-
Evidently, one of the actress members did have a small part in a drama during the down time.




I'd buy this explanation if it was a small company.. but it's CCM... Argh I want a comeback so badly lol. Their album is actually sick good.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 06 2013 21:05 GMT
#91123
speaking of speed, their redebut ep wasn't bad
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
February 06 2013 22:18 GMT
#91124
On February 07 2013 05:11 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:04 DystopiaX wrote:
Eh Exo apparently failed in Korea and they're from sm.
I just want more comebacks from old groups...2pm/shinee in particular. Fck debuting rookies.

Really? One of the best male debuts of 2012 imo.
Both Exos failing, or just exo-k?

Both really. My friends echo what has been said in this thread before, that the rush of idol groups really hasn't done much. What I hear is that basically the last group to hit any sort of real popularity/mainstream recognition is A Pink, and even then they're barely known and only Eunji is known on an individual member basis (for Reply 1997). At this point it's just that the number of groups have saturated the market, and even if you're talented or pushed well (and as a group that had something like 3 dozen teasers leading up to their debut EXO sure was promoted) there's just too many groups vying for attention. Even groups that have sort of caught on in the international community like BAP aren't really well known- like I said, AKP prints a lot of shit and Korean entertainment news sites are known to accept money in return for positive articles (MYNAME lately has been the biggest culprit of this) and generally shitty journalism in general (the same reason ESPN broadcasts really dumb stories, because on a 24/7 cycle you just need shit to report), which leads to the false perception in the international community that Koreans really know who these dudes are. The only idol acts that have really caught on from 2nd half of 2011 onward are like Juniel and Ailee (and Busker Busker if you count them, which I don't). Everyone else has largely gone unrecognized, or are popular only among whatever the Korean equivalent of wotas are.

I guess this explains why 2012 rookies pushed Japan, SEA and Oceania pretty hard. What would it take to actually get noticed in Korea and have people give a shit? Rape the billboard chart?
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
February 06 2013 22:43 GMT
#91125
On February 07 2013 07:18 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 05:11 DystopiaX wrote:
On February 07 2013 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:04 DystopiaX wrote:
Eh Exo apparently failed in Korea and they're from sm.
I just want more comebacks from old groups...2pm/shinee in particular. Fck debuting rookies.

Really? One of the best male debuts of 2012 imo.
Both Exos failing, or just exo-k?

Both really. My friends echo what has been said in this thread before, that the rush of idol groups really hasn't done much. What I hear is that basically the last group to hit any sort of real popularity/mainstream recognition is A Pink, and even then they're barely known and only Eunji is known on an individual member basis (for Reply 1997). At this point it's just that the number of groups have saturated the market, and even if you're talented or pushed well (and as a group that had something like 3 dozen teasers leading up to their debut EXO sure was promoted) there's just too many groups vying for attention. Even groups that have sort of caught on in the international community like BAP aren't really well known- like I said, AKP prints a lot of shit and Korean entertainment news sites are known to accept money in return for positive articles (MYNAME lately has been the biggest culprit of this) and generally shitty journalism in general (the same reason ESPN broadcasts really dumb stories, because on a 24/7 cycle you just need shit to report), which leads to the false perception in the international community that Koreans really know who these dudes are. The only idol acts that have really caught on from 2nd half of 2011 onward are like Juniel and Ailee (and Busker Busker if you count them, which I don't). Everyone else has largely gone unrecognized, or are popular only among whatever the Korean equivalent of wotas are.

I guess this explains why 2012 rookies pushed Japan, SEA and Oceania pretty hard. What would it take to actually get noticed in Korea and have people give a shit? Rape the billboard chart?


Koreans don't care about idols to be quite frank. Koreans especially don't care about SME's music.
Doulmaigus
Profile Joined October 2012
France352 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 23:02:28
February 06 2013 23:00 GMT
#91126
Sojin can still look cute.

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+ Show Spoiler +
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Ye I really liked Gangkiz stuff too, especially the MVs. I read the group was composed of 4 models and 3 actresses, like they were not even trying to pretend they had at least one vocalist in there. I guess it's time to forget about them at this point.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 00:59:07
February 07 2013 00:53 GMT
#91127
On February 07 2013 07:18 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 05:11 DystopiaX wrote:
On February 07 2013 04:16 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 07 2013 02:04 DystopiaX wrote:
Eh Exo apparently failed in Korea and they're from sm.
I just want more comebacks from old groups...2pm/shinee in particular. Fck debuting rookies.

Really? One of the best male debuts of 2012 imo.
Both Exos failing, or just exo-k?

Both really. My friends echo what has been said in this thread before, that the rush of idol groups really hasn't done much. What I hear is that basically the last group to hit any sort of real popularity/mainstream recognition is A Pink, and even then they're barely known and only Eunji is known on an individual member basis (for Reply 1997). At this point it's just that the number of groups have saturated the market, and even if you're talented or pushed well (and as a group that had something like 3 dozen teasers leading up to their debut EXO sure was promoted) there's just too many groups vying for attention. Even groups that have sort of caught on in the international community like BAP aren't really well known- like I said, AKP prints a lot of shit and Korean entertainment news sites are known to accept money in return for positive articles (MYNAME lately has been the biggest culprit of this) and generally shitty journalism in general (the same reason ESPN broadcasts really dumb stories, because on a 24/7 cycle you just need shit to report), which leads to the false perception in the international community that Koreans really know who these dudes are. The only idol acts that have really caught on from 2nd half of 2011 onward are like Juniel and Ailee (and Busker Busker if you count them, which I don't). Everyone else has largely gone unrecognized, or are popular only among whatever the Korean equivalent of wotas are.

I guess this explains why 2012 rookies pushed Japan, SEA and Oceania pretty hard. What would it take to actually get noticed in Korea and have people give a shit? Rape the billboard chart?

All speculation on my part but I think it'd take a seriously good song. A kind of Tell Me/Gee kinda thing, or if not that good at least a BGGG which I don't know is even possible in today's market. It's entirely possible that a group could come out with a catchy song like that and just become completely overlooked because they're the 3rd group to debut that week or something.

on an unrelated note it's Naeun's birthday in 4 days. My laziness and amount of schoolwork is warring with the feeling that I need to prepare something...
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
February 07 2013 01:09 GMT
#91128
I like this one so much..



actually the whole album
AKMU / IU
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 07 2013 01:25 GMT
#91129
Found some stuff while sorting.

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+ Show Spoiler +
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twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 01:54:27
February 07 2013 01:52 GMT
#91130
WOORIES

I THINK ITS ALMOST TIME
[image loading]


Track list
+ Show Spoiler +
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YOUTUBE VIDEO NOT WORKING

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1a0GD3nTA0--
It's your boy Guzma!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 07 2013 02:11 GMT
#91131
lol Tell me Tell me

anyway yaaay that took a while.
WriterXiao8~~
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 02:22:09
February 07 2013 02:13 GMT
#91132
On February 07 2013 04:58 nanashin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 03:31 DwD wrote: + Show Spoiler +

I'm somewhat sure the new YG girl group will be successful but I'd say it's only because it's YG. Their fans seems to be more on the same page and everyone supports everyone pretty much. A big company behind you is great but it it only goes so far.

Look at GangKiz for example. Spent a fuck ton on MV's, mad hype etc and now where are they? Like 10:ish months since they released anything and I haven't heard anything about them either.

Seven months, with which CCM pushed T-ara, debuted The Seeya + secondary promo, and ...redebuted(?) Speed. Not like there was any room to have them make a comeback. Granted an OST or variety/drama/movie face time would have been a sign of health.
-
Evidently, one of the actress members did have a small part in a drama during the down time.

+ Show Spoiler [Always time for NaiMyu] +

For a time, it was nice being able to call her the un-+ Show Spoiler [tainted] +
[image loading]
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Hyuna, but as a wise group once said, "Nothing lasts forever".
At least there's still Minah's sister, but really, with a name like Bang Hyuna the purity won't last for too long.

[image loading]

I can't tell if its a joke but Bang Hyuna's not her name its Hyemi.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 03:26:48
February 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#91133
On February 07 2013 10:52 Requizen wrote:
WOORIES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1a0GD3nTA0


This video is hype as fuck. I can't wait.

On February 07 2013 11:13 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 04:58 nanashin wrote:
On February 07 2013 03:31 DwD wrote: + Show Spoiler +

I'm somewhat sure the new YG girl group will be successful but I'd say it's only because it's YG. Their fans seems to be more on the same page and everyone supports everyone pretty much. A big company behind you is great but it it only goes so far.

Look at GangKiz for example. Spent a fuck ton on MV's, mad hype etc and now where are they? Like 10:ish months since they released anything and I haven't heard anything about them either.

Seven months, with which CCM pushed T-ara, debuted The Seeya + secondary promo, and ...redebuted(?) Speed. Not like there was any room to have them make a comeback. Granted an OST or variety/drama/movie face time would have been a sign of health.
-
Evidently, one of the actress members did have a small part in a drama during the down time.

+ Show Spoiler [Always time for NaiMyu] +

For a time, it was nice being able to call her the un-+ Show Spoiler [tainted] +
[image loading]
[image loading]
Hyuna, but as a wise group once said, "Nothing lasts forever".
At least there's still Minah's sister, but really, with a name like Bang Hyuna the purity won't last for too long.

[image loading]

I can't tell if its a joke but Bang Hyuna's not her name its Hyemi.


Bang Hyuna is the Minah's (Girl's Day) sister. She's a CCM trainee.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 02:33:01
February 07 2013 02:29 GMT
#91134
Ah I realized what I got mixed up with.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 02:36:14
February 07 2013 02:36 GMT
#91135
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This Sojin pic is tooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute. *dies*
Writer
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 07 2013 02:42 GMT
#91136
Ernji Album

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http://cratonz.minus.com/mbhmy9WiOERpcQ
twitch.tv/cratonz
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 07 2013 02:44 GMT
#91137
Who's the girl all the way to the right in the rainbow picture, she scares the shit out of me
Bronze player stuck in platinum
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
February 07 2013 03:00 GMT
#91138
eunji carries apink so hard
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
LlOoKkIi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Korea (South)473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 03:04:07
February 07 2013 03:03 GMT
#91139
On February 07 2013 11:42 Craton wrote:
Ernji Album

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


http://cratonz.minus.com/mbhmy9WiOERpcQ


I thought this was wedding gift I guess you finally are conceding to me. Its k. You had no chance ^^
Korean Highschool Exchange Student. Apink's Eunji #1
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
February 07 2013 03:09 GMT
#91140
On February 07 2013 11:44 Nos- wrote:
Who's the girl all the way to the right in the rainbow picture, she scares the shit out of me

Thats Yoonhye and you actually don't seem to be the only one who thinks that. Heard that about her several times in this thread.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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