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On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote: Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.
The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song. .
When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.
I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.
@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.
and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.
also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".
American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...
Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).
To be fair, he did co-write almost half the songs in Michael Jackson's Dangerous Album. But that's really all that he did notable...
true, my point was with all the producers they could have got, i mean SMENT is rich ... they pick him?
On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote: Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.
The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song. .
When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.
I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.
@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.
and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.
also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".
American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...
Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).
On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote: Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.
The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song. .
When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.
I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.
@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.
and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.
also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".
American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...
Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).
and WTF he is black?? Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wouldn't think of black people working in the k pop industry considering how racist some Asians are towards blacks. And yeah I too thought he was some old white man.
On December 14 2011 11:49 LlOoKkIi wrote: You just motivated me to Google him as well
and WTF he is black?? Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wouldn't think of black people working in the k pop industry considering how racist some Asians are towards blacks. And yeah I too thought he was some old white man.
On December 14 2011 12:34 Suffo wrote: Starcall is that new kpop app to get video calls from your fav stars. Sort of like UFOs but just video style. Its on AKP front page.
A NA Tour would be nice though. Kpop never comes to Toronto. We're arguably the most Asian city too. Every Asian from our generation knows kpop and most listen to it to some degree.