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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 00:35:36
December 14 2011 00:26 GMT
#41601
On December 14 2011 09:20 SoraLimit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 08:58 jax1492 wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:39 chiwawa wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote:
Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.

The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song.
.

When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.

I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.

@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.

and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.

also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".


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American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...

Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).



To be fair, he did co-write almost half the songs in Michael Jackson's Dangerous Album. But that's really all that he did notable...


true, my point was with all the producers they could have got, i mean SMENT is rich ... they pick him?

edit: Yoona for the page top
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
December 14 2011 00:30 GMT
#41602
probably because he was already familiar with how the system works, he did work with Rania.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
December 14 2011 00:41 GMT
#41603
On December 14 2011 09:20 SoraLimit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 08:58 jax1492 wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:39 chiwawa wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote:
Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.

The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song.
.

When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.

I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.

@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.

and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.

also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".


+ Show Spoiler +
American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...

Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKONgfNONU


To be fair, he did co-write almost half the songs in Michael Jackson's Dangerous Album. But that's really all that he did notable...

And he was in Blackstreet, which was the shit back in the day
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:15:12
December 14 2011 01:12 GMT
#41604


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+ Show Spoiler [U-Kiss] +
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
December 14 2011 01:13 GMT
#41605
On December 14 2011 09:41 Moonwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 09:20 SoraLimit wrote:
On December 14 2011 08:58 jax1492 wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:55 DystopiaX wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:39 chiwawa wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:18 DystopiaX wrote:
Interscope also has popular/talented artists, so pointing out the American Idol thing doesn't mean much. The point you're missing is that being signed to an American label means they have to do something in America in order to fill their contract agreements. Otherwise, why the hell would interscope bother signing them.

The Teddy Riley hate is still stupid IMO. He got flak for the Boys being bad, but there were a fucking host of other composers working on the song and he doesn't have lyrics credits, so TheLink blaming him for the rapping is entirely unfounded as he didn't touch that part of the song.
.

When he gets the majority of the praise for the song it's not more than right that he gets most of the flak as well. And I can't believe that T.R.X in the beginning could mean anything else than Teddy Riley eXperience.

I never said that I think he deserves a majority of the praise either. The only reason he did is cause SM decided to make it big news that they got an American producer to work with them.

@Song credits- well then TheLink should have blamed Tiffany for half the lyrics in the eng version being bad as well, even though he won't for obvious reasons.

and yeah, no way to know which version came first but if I had to bet I'd say the Korean version, the English version has that "we gotta fit the lyrics into this melody already cause it has to sound like a preexisting version" kind of feel to it.

also because I have to believe that 2 english speakers wouldn't write such shitty lyrics as "Girl's Generation make you feel the heat".


+ Show Spoiler +
American pop lyrics is just as lame as Korean lyrics ... i don't think that's the issue, i think its that Korean songs "translated" into English sound extra odd ...

Teddy Riley has not done anything in like 20 years ... this is the Teddy Riley i remember ... he is not known for good lyrics (he has the camera in the video if you don't know).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKONgfNONU


To be fair, he did co-write almost half the songs in Michael Jackson's Dangerous Album. But that's really all that he did notable...

And he was in Blackstreet, which was the shit back in the day


lol, i remember them i admit i liked "no diggity" ...
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 14 2011 02:43 GMT
#41606
Finally got around to googling Teddy Riley. Always pictured him as a white dude in his mid-50s...
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LlOoKkIi
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Korea (South)473 Posts
December 14 2011 02:49 GMT
#41607
You just motivated me to Google him as well

and WTF he is black?? Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wouldn't think of black people working in the k pop industry considering how racist some Asians are towards blacks. And yeah I too thought he was some old white man.
Korean Highschool Exchange Student. Apink's Eunji #1
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 14 2011 02:50 GMT
#41608
I got a starcall in class... Got owned by teach LOL
Dear Sixsmith...
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
December 14 2011 03:21 GMT
#41609
On December 14 2011 11:49 LlOoKkIi wrote:
You just motivated me to Google him as well

and WTF he is black?? Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wouldn't think of black people working in the k pop industry considering how racist some Asians are towards blacks. And yeah I too thought he was some old white man.


America --> Hip Hop --> African American

That was probably SM's thinking.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 14 2011 03:23 GMT
#41610
Or he's the biggest name they could get to work with them...

also wtf is starcall
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 14 2011 03:27 GMT
#41611
On December 14 2011 12:23 DystopiaX wrote:
Or he's the biggest name they could get to work with them...

also wtf is starcall


I don't think it'd be that easy to get an American producer to branch out into K-pop...

Yeah. wtf is starcall. Starcraft booty call?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
December 14 2011 03:29 GMT
#41612
2ne1 the best band in the world

clearly

no debatin'
i be that pretty motherfucker
Suffo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:35:04
December 14 2011 03:34 GMT
#41613
Starcall is that new kpop app to get video calls from your fav stars. Sort of like UFOs but just video style. Its on AKP front page.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/12/send-and-receive-video-calls-from-your-favorite-k-pop-stars-via-starcall

Anyways echoz was it IU? lol
seumdwa
Profile Joined June 2011
United States133 Posts
December 14 2011 03:35 GMT
#41614
The vocal gap between Eunji and the rest of the girls is so huge. Also, Bomi with the wtf expression after forgetting her lines.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 14 2011 03:35 GMT
#41615
I don't know what UFO's are but basically you just get video clips from random people? Don't really care about that then.
bootbootcar
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada22 Posts
December 14 2011 03:36 GMT
#41616
http://www.star-call.net/

People randomly "call" you and you get to watch what they say.

Here is IU starcall
Skysec
Profile Joined August 2010
United States164 Posts
December 14 2011 03:45 GMT
#41617
Is SNSD really going to "promote" in America with The Boys or is that just speculation?
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#41618
On December 14 2011 12:45 Skysec wrote:
Is SNSD really going to "promote" in America with The Boys or is that just speculation?


Doubt they're going to be promoting in America soon...

Releasing album, but not promoting.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 14 2011 03:47 GMT
#41619
On December 14 2011 12:34 Suffo wrote:
Starcall is that new kpop app to get video calls from your fav stars. Sort of like UFOs but just video style. Its on AKP front page.

http://www.allkpop.com/2011/12/send-and-receive-video-calls-from-your-favorite-k-pop-stars-via-starcall

Anyways echoz was it IU? lol


Yeah I got a starcall from IU haha. They basically stream themselves for awhile as a "call" to mass amounts of people haha
Dear Sixsmith...
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
December 14 2011 03:50 GMT
#41620
A NA Tour would be nice though. Kpop never comes to Toronto. We're arguably the most Asian city too. Every Asian from our generation knows kpop and most listen to it to some degree.
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