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candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
October 30 2009 22:23 GMT
#2001
On October 31 2009 07:10 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 07:00 selboN wrote:
On October 31 2009 06:50 mOnion wrote:
On October 31 2009 06:45 T.O.P. wrote:
KPop is serious business.

Shameless advertisement: Go to my KPop site, bookmark it, and tell all your friends about it!!!!

http://kpopflash.wordpress.com/


cool site!

im confused what it is though

can i not use it if i only speak engrish?

mOnion! Get out of this thread!! >.<;


>.< cuz im white? WHAT?

you should know that me and my sister (who i've introduced kpop to) are learning the dance from SNSD's Gee music video. THE WHOLE THING.

i may be white, but my hips are allllll korean ^_^


you're 10 months late lol
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 30 2009 22:26 GMT
#2002
On October 31 2009 07:01 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 22:22 Roffles wrote:
IEF was so damn disappointing. Fucking Jessica needs to learn to sing into the mic. I think I might have enjoyed that Suwon Suwon guy more than listening to Sica.


I was sitting about twenty feet away from the stage. Her mic was broken FYI and no one gave her one that was fixed during the switch between songs. I thought she was a trooper for carrying on even though she looked hella pissed at one point that nothing was being done to fix the problem.

Thanks for clarification, because at points it did sound like the mic was working and she just wasn't singing into it.
God Bless
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-30 22:35:49
October 30 2009 22:34 GMT
#2003
On October 31 2009 07:26 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 07:01 NeverGG wrote:
On October 30 2009 22:22 Roffles wrote:
IEF was so damn disappointing. Fucking Jessica needs to learn to sing into the mic. I think I might have enjoyed that Suwon Suwon guy more than listening to Sica.


I was sitting about twenty feet away from the stage. Her mic was broken FYI and no one gave her one that was fixed during the switch between songs. I thought she was a trooper for carrying on even though she looked hella pissed at one point that nothing was being done to fix the problem.

Thanks for clarification, because at points it did sound like the mic was working and she just wasn't singing into it.


A little quick to jump the gun there, aren't you...
uSiN
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
October 30 2009 22:39 GMT
#2004
On October 30 2009 17:51 ghermination wrote:
I still laugh at the fact that this thread was created as sattire to make fun of the Kpop fans and instead gained 100 pages of posts. What the hell is wrong with the world.

welcome to the Internets

on a side note wonder what is this about... o.O? http://2pm.jype.com/
.-.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 30 2009 23:45 GMT
#2005
On October 31 2009 07:39 uSiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2009 17:51 ghermination wrote:
I still laugh at the fact that this thread was created as sattire to make fun of the Kpop fans and instead gained 100 pages of posts. What the hell is wrong with the world.

welcome to the Internets

on a side note wonder what is this about... o.O? http://2pm.jype.com/

2pm comeback?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 31 2009 00:06 GMT
#2006
On October 31 2009 08:45 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 07:39 uSiN wrote:
On October 30 2009 17:51 ghermination wrote:
I still laugh at the fact that this thread was created as sattire to make fun of the Kpop fans and instead gained 100 pages of posts. What the hell is wrong with the world.

welcome to the Internets

on a side note wonder what is this about... o.O? http://2pm.jype.com/

2pm comeback?

How ironic would it be if they announced that 2PM was breaking up at that time?
My guess would be it's an official announcement for the date of their new album. Even though having Jaebom back would be nice, I kind of don't want to see him rejoin so fast because it would only show that the stuff the fans/netizens did after he left works and may lead to crazier things in the future.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
October 31 2009 00:08 GMT
#2007
shameless promotion of k-pop
vote for me

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104714
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 00:49:48
October 31 2009 00:46 GMT
#2008
On October 31 2009 07:34 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 07:26 Roffles wrote:
On October 31 2009 07:01 NeverGG wrote:
On October 30 2009 22:22 Roffles wrote:
IEF was so damn disappointing. Fucking Jessica needs to learn to sing into the mic. I think I might have enjoyed that Suwon Suwon guy more than listening to Sica.


I was sitting about twenty feet away from the stage. Her mic was broken FYI and no one gave her one that was fixed during the switch between songs. I thought she was a trooper for carrying on even though she looked hella pissed at one point that nothing was being done to fix the problem.

Thanks for clarification, because at points it did sound like the mic was working and she just wasn't singing into it.


A little quick to jump the gun there, aren't you...

Uh huh. A little quick to judge there, aren't you...
God Bless
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 02:11:49
October 31 2009 02:10 GMT
#2009
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
October 31 2009 02:50 GMT
#2010
apply that to snsd and more people will be enraged.

do we have some nice photos nevergg?
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NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
October 31 2009 03:02 GMT
#2011
On October 31 2009 11:50 Hyaach wrote:
apply that to snsd and more people will be enraged.

do we have some nice photos nevergg?


Yes, please check my blog ^^ Seventy six photos, plus forty five of SHINee. I was insulted by IU's boring and unenthusiastic performance. She didn't seem to want to be there at all.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 31 2009 03:04 GMT
#2012
On October 31 2009 12:02 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 11:50 Hyaach wrote:
apply that to snsd and more people will be enraged.

do we have some nice photos nevergg?


Yes, please check my blog ^^ Seventy six photos, plus forty five of SHINee. I was insulted by IU's boring and unenthusiastic performance. She didn't seem to want to be there at all.

I actually think IU was better this time around compared to her performance at SF finals. God, she looked like she wanted to just bolt that time immediately.
God Bless
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 31 2009 03:12 GMT
#2013
On October 31 2009 12:04 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 12:02 NeverGG wrote:
On October 31 2009 11:50 Hyaach wrote:
apply that to snsd and more people will be enraged.

do we have some nice photos nevergg?


Yes, please check my blog ^^ Seventy six photos, plus forty five of SHINee. I was insulted by IU's boring and unenthusiastic performance. She didn't seem to want to be there at all.

I actually think IU was better this time around compared to her performance at SF finals. God, she looked like she wanted to just bolt that time immediately.

Wow apparently she was so bad that I can't even find a single youtube video of her performance. I wanted to see what all the rage was about. Oh well.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 31 2009 03:19 GMT
#2014
On October 31 2009 12:12 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 12:04 Roffles wrote:
On October 31 2009 12:02 NeverGG wrote:
On October 31 2009 11:50 Hyaach wrote:
apply that to snsd and more people will be enraged.

do we have some nice photos nevergg?


Yes, please check my blog ^^ Seventy six photos, plus forty five of SHINee. I was insulted by IU's boring and unenthusiastic performance. She didn't seem to want to be there at all.

I actually think IU was better this time around compared to her performance at SF finals. God, she looked like she wanted to just bolt that time immediately.

Wow apparently she was so bad that I can't even find a single youtube video of her performance. I wanted to see what all the rage was about. Oh well.

Yep, I would have put her video on the IEF thread if I could find it. But I can't find it anywhere, not on youtube, not on korean torrents.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
October 31 2009 04:59 GMT
#2015
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.



that almost seems like contracts the railroad industry employees had back in the 1900's when the companies deducted their paychecks from living expenses including room, clothes, and food.

it seems to me SM was subsidizing their losses with the money that DBSK should have received.

the thing about this whole mess is that here's SM who makes stars out of kids. The kids are so star-struck that they sign whatever contract that is given to them. add the fact that their managers are employees of the record company, you're going to get musicians who will have some time in the limelight for a few years, but with pennies after they are done as entertainers.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
October 31 2009 06:30 GMT
#2016
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.

So the best selling artist in Asia gets paid less than progamers?
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
October 31 2009 06:34 GMT
#2017
On October 31 2009 15:30 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.

So the best selling artist in Asia gets paid less than progamers?


Best selling under SM.
Commentator
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
October 31 2009 07:03 GMT
#2018
On October 31 2009 15:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:30 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.

So the best selling artist in Asia gets paid less than progamers?


Best selling under SM.


Regardless, that's just ridiculous, further proof to why SM = kpop slave drivers. T_T
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
October 31 2009 07:29 GMT
#2019
On October 31 2009 15:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:30 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.

So the best selling artist in Asia gets paid less than progamers?


Best selling under SM.

best selling in korea in about 5(+?) years
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Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 31 2009 07:53 GMT
#2020
On October 31 2009 15:34 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2009 15:30 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 31 2009 11:10 beefhamburger wrote:
Some DBSK news, finally I guess.

"Below is what the court has presented as the content of the members' contracts. The contract has been modified 5 times since their debut, so this is the overall review."
1. TVXQ has received $0 from their album sales till July 2008, and a very small amount after.
2. TVXQ has received $0 from sales of concert DVD's and albums with recordings from concerts.
3. TVXQ received $0 from their appearances in TV programs.
4. For other ways of getting profit, SM subtracts the total amount with all the expenses that the company has paid for them, including clothing, salary of company staff, stage preparation, rent, food expenses, and etc., which only leaves a fraction for the members of TVXQ.


I know tons of people are outraged, I probably would be too if I cared enough, but honestly, why on Earth would DBSK even sign a contract that was this outrageous? Something is probably missing from all the details because I doubt any of them are that stupid to see how this would be remotely fair for them at all. Did they just blind sign a contract? Bleh.

So the best selling artist in Asia gets paid less than progamers?


Best selling under SM.

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