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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 31 2009 08:06 GMT
#2021
What in considered average/high album sales in Japan and China? In Korea, getting to the 100k mark seems like a good milestone for those very popular artists. Does Japan get tons more sales on average?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
October 31 2009 09:30 GMT
#2022
On October 31 2009 17:06 beefhamburger wrote:
What in considered average/high album sales in Japan and China? In Korea, getting to the 100k mark seems like a good milestone for those very popular artists. Does Japan get tons more sales on average?

well japan has been experiencing a decline in physical sales over the past few years due to the rising popularity of downloading (via services similar to itunes). their chart, the oricon doesn't take it into account.

for japan, singles and albums are listed on separate charts. a successful single/album would probably be considered to be in the top 50 end-of-the-year charts. for singles, that mark would be 100,714 for 50th place (1st place in 2009 is 655,498). for albums, 50th place is 133,098 (1st place 1,326,959 and 2nd place 1,243,298).

so yes, japan gets much higher sales on average, which is why a lot of successful korean are crossing over to japan.
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Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
October 31 2009 10:57 GMT
#2023
Holy .. japan people are crazy. Getting 1m sales on albums. How recent are the datas because selling albums in the millions in the current age is a big thing especially in asia no?
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
October 31 2009 12:02 GMT
#2024
On October 26 2009 22:36 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Why did they make u do this SeeYa... (shoulda saw it coming when they brought in SooMi though)
+ Show Spoiler +



the song isnt TOO bad however, despite the autotune and Lee BoRam's horrendous short hair
And I swear SooMi looks like Kang JiYoung from KARA


new girl's contacts make her eyes look mad creepy;;

they're like soul less
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 31 2009 12:12 GMT
#2025
Lol i love the OP for this thread and how many pages it has reached with it.
sAviOr...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
October 31 2009 12:15 GMT
#2026
yep
what have you done geoffrey
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rinoh
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States335 Posts
October 31 2009 15:17 GMT
#2027
I like these:

베르사유의 장미
jankenpon
Profile Joined September 2009
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 16:12:00
October 31 2009 15:40 GMT
#2028
here take a look and you understand why.
Total music market 2003:
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Do you see S.Korea?

Here is more update data:
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Lucid90
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada340 Posts
October 31 2009 16:35 GMT
#2029
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-31 18:56:59
October 31 2009 17:14 GMT
#2030
On November 01 2009 01:35 Lucid90 wrote:
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /

I think it's more America has moved away from the actual pop style that was present about 10 years ago. Birtney Spears was pop for her first 2 albums but then kinda got out of that genre because of the societal pressures to become more "sexy" and become more mature. In American pop, I think the target audience seems to be more for those in their early teens (I guess like the Jonas Bros., Miley Cyrus, maybe?) while Kpop targets early and late teens and even those in their 20s. Back in the 90s when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were popular was when I consider that the American pop age. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you can start an American Pop discussion page and get tons of replies =P.

I can't really explain it, you like the music you like.
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
October 31 2009 18:14 GMT
#2031
On November 01 2009 02:14 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 01:35 Lucid90 wrote:
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /

I think it's more America has moved away from the actual pop style that was present about 10 years ago. Birtney Spears was pop for her first 2 albums but then kinda got out of that genre because of the societal pressures to become more "sexy" and become more mature. In American pop, I think the target audience seems to be more for those in their early teens (I guess like the Jonas Bros., Miley Cyrus, maybe?) while Kpop targets early and late teens and even those in their 20s. Back in the 90s when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were popular was when I consider that true American pop. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you can start an American Pop discussion page and get tons of replies =P.

I can't really explain it, you like the music you like.


It's interesting how you're sticking with your generation (90s kid?).

But yeah, it's totally a generational thing. Some American pop artist songs can cater to the late teen demographic as well though. There just isn't a pop thread to discuss it.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
October 31 2009 18:16 GMT
#2032
whoaaa wait a second this is started by incontrol and not GTR-2-go? my world has imploded.
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gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
October 31 2009 18:34 GMT
#2033
On November 01 2009 01:35 Lucid90 wrote:
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /



Kpop generally means all korean music. Unlike, the US, an average korean will not be so picky about the genre of music they listen to. So things like ballads, hip hop, RNB, soul, rock, dance, electronica, pop, girl group sensation, etc etc are all pretty much lumped together. American music industry, on the other hand, is much more devoloped and the music has a more specified target audience who tends to just ignore the genre's they are not inturested in.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
October 31 2009 18:51 GMT
#2034
On November 01 2009 03:14 ydg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2009 02:14 beefhamburger wrote:
On November 01 2009 01:35 Lucid90 wrote:
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /

I think it's more America has moved away from the actual pop style that was present about 10 years ago. Birtney Spears was pop for her first 2 albums but then kinda got out of that genre because of the societal pressures to become more "sexy" and become more mature. In American pop, I think the target audience seems to be more for those in their early teens (I guess like the Jonas Bros., Miley Cyrus, maybe?) while Kpop targets early and late teens and even those in their 20s. Back in the 90s when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were popular was when I consider that true American pop. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you can start an American Pop discussion page and get tons of replies =P.

I can't really explain it, you like the music you like.


It's interesting how you're sticking with your generation (90s kid?).

But yeah, it's totally a generational thing. Some American pop artist songs can cater to the late teen demographic as well though. There just isn't a pop thread to discuss it.

Sorry, if I listened to any current American pop I might be able to give you a more indepth reason. I was born in the 80's so I started listening to music from the 90's and that's mostly where my experience comes from and I remember that music being very popular. Eventually artists started shifting more toward the more mature genres or maybe I just lost touch with it since I aged.

But yeah, mostly what gameguard says. Kpop, how we use it, is really most Korean music all lumped together.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
October 31 2009 20:04 GMT
#2035
i only listen to it because it ties closely with my e-sports obsession and i usually dont understand half the stuff so i don't know what they are singing about
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candlejackisgonn
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States159 Posts
November 01 2009 04:18 GMT
#2036
SeeYa - His Voice comeback



I like this song a lot. Performance wasn't bad. What's the name of the girl with her left arm out of her outfit?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
November 01 2009 04:36 GMT
#2037
boram
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51523 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-01 05:08:11
November 01 2009 04:59 GMT
#2038
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 01 2009 05:00 GMT
#2039

New MASA Mix, this guy is amazing
You can't fight the feeling.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
November 01 2009 05:02 GMT
#2040
On November 01 2009 13:59 GTR wrote:
http://twitter.com/vickysmalls/status/3891015777

Solin you prick!

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