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beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

October 31 2009 08:06 GMT

#2021

What in considered average/high album sales in Japan and China? In Korea, getting to the 100k mark seems like a good milestone for those very popular artists. Does Japan get tons more sales on average?

LosingID8

CA10824 Posts

October 31 2009 09:30 GMT

#2022

On October 31 2009 17:06 beefhamburger wrote:
What in considered average/high album sales in Japan and China? In Korea, getting to the 100k mark seems like a good milestone for those very popular artists. Does Japan get tons more sales on average?

well japan has been experiencing a decline in physical sales over the past few years due to the rising popularity of downloading (via services similar to itunes). their chart, the oricon doesn't take it into account.

for japan, singles and albums are listed on separate charts. a successful single/album would probably be considered to be in the top 50 end-of-the-year charts. for singles, that mark would be 100,714 for 50th place (1st place in 2009 is 655,498). for albums, 50th place is 133,098 (1st place 1,326,959 and 2nd place 1,243,298).

so yes, japan gets much higher sales on average, which is why a lot of successful korean are crossing over to japan.

Hyaach

Singapore1737 Posts

October 31 2009 10:57 GMT

#2023

Holy .. japan people are crazy. Getting 1m sales on albums. How recent are the datas because selling albums in the millions in the current age is a big thing especially in asia no?

Ilikestarcraft

Korea (South)17726 Posts

October 31 2009 12:02 GMT

#2024

On October 26 2009 22:36 MorningMusume11 wrote:
Why did they make u do this SeeYa... (shoulda saw it coming when they brought in SooMi though)
+ Show Spoiler +

the song isnt TOO bad however, despite the autotune and Lee BoRam's horrendous short hair
And I swear SooMi looks like Kang JiYoung from KARA

new girl's contacts make her eyes look mad creepy;;

they're like soul less

Camlito

Australia4040 Posts

October 31 2009 12:12 GMT

#2025

Lol i love the OP for this thread and how many pages it has reached with it.

GTR

51333 Posts

October 31 2009 12:15 GMT

#2026

yep
what have you done geoffrey

rinoh

United States335 Posts

October 31 2009 15:17 GMT

#2027

I like these:

jankenpon

79 Posts

October 31 2009 15:40 GMT

#2028

here take a look and you understand why.
Total music market 2003:
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Do you see S.Korea?

Here is more update data:
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Lucid90

Canada340 Posts

October 31 2009 16:35 GMT

#2029

How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /

beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

October 31 2009 17:14 GMT

#2030

On November 01 2009 01:35 Lucid90 wrote:
How come people love Kpop but hate american and english pop?

I mean here you have a thread with other 100 pages in it, all dedicated to Kpop, but no one seems to like lady gaga or britney spears or the like.

= /

I think it's more America has moved away from the actual pop style that was present about 10 years ago. Birtney Spears was pop for her first 2 albums but then kinda got out of that genre because of the societal pressures to become more "sexy" and become more mature. In American pop, I think the target audience seems to be more for those in their early teens (I guess like the Jonas Bros., Miley Cyrus, maybe?) while Kpop targets early and late teens and even those in their 20s. Back in the 90s when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were popular was when I consider that the American pop age. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you can start an American Pop discussion page and get tons of replies =P.

I can't really explain it, you like the music you like.

ydg

United States690 Posts

October 31 2009 18:14 GMT

#2031

On November 01 2009 02:14 beefhamburger wrote:

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I think it's more America has moved away from the actual pop style that was present about 10 years ago. Birtney Spears was pop for her first 2 albums but then kinda got out of that genre because of the societal pressures to become more "sexy" and become more mature. In American pop, I think the target audience seems to be more for those in their early teens (I guess like the Jonas Bros., Miley Cyrus, maybe?) while Kpop targets early and late teens and even those in their 20s. Back in the 90s when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were popular was when I consider that true American pop. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong and you can start an American Pop discussion page and get tons of replies =P.

I can't really explain it, you like the music you like.

It's interesting how you're sticking with your generation (90s kid?).

But yeah, it's totally a generational thing. Some American pop artist songs can cater to the late teen demographic as well though. There just isn't a pop thread to discuss it.

Sfydjklm

United States9218 Posts

October 31 2009 18:16 GMT

#2032

whoaaa wait a second this is started by incontrol and not GTR-2-go? my world has imploded.

gameguard

Korea (South)2131 Posts

October 31 2009 18:34 GMT

#2033

Kpop generally means all korean music. Unlike, the US, an average korean will not be so picky about the genre of music they listen to. So things like ballads, hip hop, RNB, soul, rock, dance, electronica, pop, girl group sensation, etc etc are all pretty much lumped together. American music industry, on the other hand, is much more devoloped and the music has a more specified target audience who tends to just ignore the genre's they are not inturested in.

beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

October 31 2009 18:51 GMT

#2034

On November 01 2009 03:14 ydg wrote:

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Sorry, if I listened to any current American pop I might be able to give you a more indepth reason. I was born in the 80's so I started listening to music from the 90's and that's mostly where my experience comes from and I remember that music being very popular. Eventually artists started shifting more toward the more mature genres or maybe I just lost touch with it since I aged.

But yeah, mostly what gameguard says. Kpop, how we use it, is really most Korean music all lumped together.

GTR

51333 Posts

October 31 2009 20:04 GMT

#2035

i only listen to it because it ties closely with my e-sports obsession and i usually dont understand half the stuff so i don't know what they are singing about