• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:09
CEST 12:09
KST 19:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow5[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30
Community News
MaNa leaves Team Liquid8$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy5GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding7Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage5
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion JD's Ro24 review The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group A Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The China Politics Thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
How Streamers Inspire Gamers…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1746 users

James Cameron's AVATAR series - Page 59

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 90 Next
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 06 2010 01:06 GMT
#1161
On January 06 2010 08:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
Please don't threaten people with bans

I'LL BAN YOU TOO HOT_BID, JUST YOU WATCH!!!
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Deleted User 31996
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
843 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 01:56:37
January 07 2010 01:53 GMT
#1162
On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:

lol James Cameron very likely saw Princess Mononoke. It's been out in US theatres and had a lot of critical acclaim and it's the kind of foreign film that most film makers who work in CGI/animation (like Cameron does) tend to check out solely to keep up with what others in the industry are doing.

Correct

On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:
And personally, it was more like Last Samurai than it was like Princess Mononke.

Wrong - It is rather an intricate mix of the two. Perhaps if you understood a little Japanese-American history then, more contextual light may be shed on The Last Samurai for you. America didn't just rock up to Japan to 'Westernize it then go away', Japan as a physical geographic location was perfect for the US as fueling station for their ever growing fleet. Woopah they still wanted to use the land for their own purposes.

The connection portrayed with the Na'Vi and their land is by far stronger and more real than anything I have witnessed -
See
for example of an Olive tree being cut down by a settler in Palestine with the owner going crazy. The scenes showing the Na'vi people mourning and lamenting at the loss and destruction of their forest gave a very palpable and sympathetic sense of the loss and desctruction- Well for me anyway.
No I'm not saying Cameron is a sympathizer of Palestinians nor any other indigenous/aboriginal population for that matter, but the portrayal of the reality of it all, that is, of how strong and true the connection a native people have with their land and its trees is there, and it certainly is no accident either.

So strong that the neuron-like connections with the land, although physically real and scientifically supposed true, I believe are to symbolise how true the connection is that a native peoples claim to have with their land and perhaps hint at it being so true, that there is almost a scientific-magical reality to it. The same goes for any single other group of indigenous people.

There are differences of course, that goes not without saying, Pandora had some special mineral, the land for people X was wanted as a fueling station and was geographically convenient, stolen and settled on by outsiders, but there are countries around the world by which their natural resources were exploited by a colonizing nation, you'd be blind to not see that.


On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Also, in both Mononoke and Last Samurai the end is bittersweet. In both, the animals/natives don't win. They lose but make a lasting impression on their conquerors. Only Avatar with its saccharine plot has the natives "win." Probably to set up a lame sequel.

Overall, it's just your archetypal "going native" story. A protagonist haunted by his life, seeking a change/cure, stumbles upon a native culture that is at first hostile, then over time opens up to him, as he persistently and somewhat clumsily tries to connect with them on a human/soulful level. Then his former life comes back to haunt him with gifts in hand, and he's forced to make the moral choice between siding with "his own kind" or forging a new loyalty with the natives who helped cure him. Inevitably, he chooses to side with the new friends because that's what any brave/unconventional protagonist does and it's enlightened because the natural reaction is to side with your own kind. Then they fight, blah blah, the protagonist knows the ins and outs of the other side because he used to be one of them, shows the natives what to do, and then they ride to victory or put up such a valiant struggle that everyone's touched by their bravery. The End. Bank $1 billion.


This is where I agree with you more or less. However, I still think you are picking, choosing, and neglecting sections of this film with comparisons to other films to your own liking. As I have just (hopefully?) shown in this post here. Mononoke addressed slightly more complex questions, showing the dire situation that the main population were in and how the leader of that population was helping prostitutes and slaves from other towns which gave her a human appeal where-as Parker said something along the lines of "my stockholders care more about the quarterly review than a bunch of native people dying" here - attempting to show one aspect of the cruel reality of materialist capitalism - This isn't always the case, but very very real indeed. I personally would have loved the film 10 times more had there been no deus ex machina happy ending sorta crap but oh well.

Anyway in other news-
I am optimistic for more movies to come using 3D for actual emphatic techniques - as opposed to Avatar's 'showoffy' techniques which is fine since its perhaps one of the first films ever used to employ 3D? (Despite it having been invented about a century ago)



endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 07 2010 07:05 GMT
#1163
[image loading]


I knew it was almost the same story as Pocahontas, i didnt expected to be THAT close rofl.
ॐ
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
January 07 2010 07:15 GMT
#1164
On January 07 2010 16:05 endy wrote:
[image loading]


I knew it was almost the same story as Pocahontas, i didnt expected to be THAT close rofl.


If it was so similar to Pocahontas, why didn't they remake Pocahontas with the 3D graphics?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
January 07 2010 09:46 GMT
#1165
probably because Pocahontas is gay and american natives don't sell as good as blue cat humanoids.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
January 07 2010 10:02 GMT
#1166
U kknnooww thebig catch of avatar was to "change the way movies are made" a lot of you guys are still going over the story. Who cares, goood stories are retold often as long as it was executed brilliantly what's the fuss
troi oi thang map nai!!!
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 07 2010 10:17 GMT
#1167
On January 07 2010 19:02 OhThatDang wrote:
U kknnooww thebig catch of avatar was to "change the way movies are made" a lot of you guys are still going over the story. Who cares, goood stories are retold often as long as it was executed brilliantly what's the fuss

Point is that it wasn't executed brilliantly, and so it doesn't deserve a nomination for Best Picture.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 07 2010 10:47 GMT
#1168
Avatars story is bad, you can't take that away. It was the visuals that sent the audience to a zombie like state and blocked their eyes from seeing the plot a thousand miles away. (I posted this a few pages back)

If you want something more complex, go read a book.

Well Avatar has some chance on a better story if it goes to a Star Wars-like Saga or something..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Cyrox
Profile Joined October 2007
Sweden147 Posts
January 07 2010 10:58 GMT
#1169
All I thought about was Pochahontas as mentioned above. And how cool the CGI was, and how not-cool the 3D was (except some scenes that worked out fine).

I will have to see it once more without the bullshit glasses ...

Except for being a Pochahontas ripoff the script was so much by-the-book it was hilarious, but it's all about money so whatever who am I to judge.

I would give it 6,5/10 on my personal scale.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
January 07 2010 12:12 GMT
#1170
You guys should look up what a 'deus ex machina' is. All the posts I have read where you kids talk about how poorly the plot was constructed mention it, and yet obviously have no idea what it is or what it entails.

Sooo many people trying to sound smarter than they are. It's a movie, get over it. If Cameron's thinly veiled axe to grind makes you think about how we are raping our eco-systems, then good. If you liked the movie but thought the dialogue was weak, then good. If liked the movie but feel the need to complain and nit pick at every detail you have a gripe with then shut the fuck up because people are tired of hearing it.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 07 2010 12:22 GMT
#1171
On January 07 2010 21:12 GunSlinger wrote:
You guys should look up what a 'deus ex machina' is. All the posts I have read where you kids talk about how poorly the plot was constructed mention it, and yet obviously have no idea what it is or what it entails.

Sooo many people trying to sound smarter than they are. It's a movie, get over it. If Cameron's thinly veiled axe to grind makes you think about how we are raping our eco-systems, then good. If you liked the movie but thought the dialogue was weak, then good. If liked the movie but feel the need to complain and nit pick at every detail you have a gripe with then shut the fuck up because people are tired of hearing it.


Don't go on a forum if you have anti-social rage please. It makes you look like you have hormonal issues.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
January 07 2010 12:33 GMT
#1172
Don't go on forums if you are a condescending prick who likes to make sure that every person he is even remotely acquainted with absolutely knows his/her opinions even if they don't want to know his/her opinions. It makes you look like you have to much time on your hands and too few friends.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 07 2010 12:39 GMT
#1173
On January 07 2010 21:33 GunSlinger wrote:
Don't go on forums if you are a condescending prick who likes to make sure that every person he is even remotely acquainted with absolutely knows his/her opinions even if they don't want to know his/her opinions. It makes you look like you have to much time on your hands and too few friends.


You ever read the title of the thread? Or did you just skim through a few posts, get pissed off because you like the movie, and decide that cursing at people without providing a single new thing to the discussion was a good thing to do?

This is a thread called Avatar: Overhyped?? HMMMM. I wonder what people should be discussing there. Maybe if the thread was called Avatar: Positive Comments Only, I could understand where you're coming from, but right now, you just look angry for no good reason.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 07 2010 12:48 GMT
#1174
[image loading]

Poll: Should thread be changed to Avatar: Positive Comments Only
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Change it to OMG SHUT UP ABOUT AVATAR

That done. I really liked Avatar, but I'm good at shutting my brain off when necessary.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 07 2010 12:50 GMT
#1175
On January 07 2010 10:53 liosama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:

lol James Cameron very likely saw Princess Mononoke. It's been out in US theatres and had a lot of critical acclaim and it's the kind of foreign film that most film makers who work in CGI/animation (like Cameron does) tend to check out solely to keep up with what others in the industry are doing.

Correct

Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:
And personally, it was more like Last Samurai than it was like Princess Mononke.

Wrong - It is rather an intricate mix of the two. Perhaps if you understood a little Japanese-American history then, more contextual light may be shed on The Last Samurai for you. America didn't just rock up to Japan to 'Westernize it then go away', Japan as a physical geographic location was perfect for the US as fueling station for their ever growing fleet. Woopah they still wanted to use the land for their own purposes.

The connection portrayed with the Na'Vi and their land is by far stronger and more real than anything I have witnessed -
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpYuPxjJHw#t=0m23 for example of an Olive tree being cut down by a settler in Palestine with the owner going crazy. The scenes showing the Na'vi people mourning and lamenting at the loss and destruction of their forest gave a very palpable and sympathetic sense of the loss and desctruction- Well for me anyway.
No I'm not saying Cameron is a sympathizer of Palestinians nor any other indigenous/aboriginal population for that matter, but the portrayal of the reality of it all, that is, of how strong and true the connection a native people have with their land and its trees is there, and it certainly is no accident either.

So strong that the neuron-like connections with the land, although physically real and scientifically supposed true, I believe are to symbolise how true the connection is that a native peoples claim to have with their land and perhaps hint at it being so true, that there is almost a scientific-magical reality to it. The same goes for any single other group of indigenous people.

There are differences of course, that goes not without saying, Pandora had some special mineral, the land for people X was wanted as a fueling station and was geographically convenient, stolen and settled on by outsiders, but there are countries around the world by which their natural resources were exploited by a colonizing nation, you'd be blind to not see that.


Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 01:47 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Also, in both Mononoke and Last Samurai the end is bittersweet. In both, the animals/natives don't win. They lose but make a lasting impression on their conquerors. Only Avatar with its saccharine plot has the natives "win." Probably to set up a lame sequel.

Overall, it's just your archetypal "going native" story. A protagonist haunted by his life, seeking a change/cure, stumbles upon a native culture that is at first hostile, then over time opens up to him, as he persistently and somewhat clumsily tries to connect with them on a human/soulful level. Then his former life comes back to haunt him with gifts in hand, and he's forced to make the moral choice between siding with "his own kind" or forging a new loyalty with the natives who helped cure him. Inevitably, he chooses to side with the new friends because that's what any brave/unconventional protagonist does and it's enlightened because the natural reaction is to side with your own kind. Then they fight, blah blah, the protagonist knows the ins and outs of the other side because he used to be one of them, shows the natives what to do, and then they ride to victory or put up such a valiant struggle that everyone's touched by their bravery. The End. Bank $1 billion.


This is where I agree with you more or less. However, I still think you are picking, choosing, and neglecting sections of this film with comparisons to other films to your own liking. As I have just (hopefully?) shown in this post here. Mononoke addressed slightly more complex questions, showing the dire situation that the main population were in and how the leader of that population was helping prostitutes and slaves from other towns which gave her a human appeal where-as Parker said something along the lines of "my stockholders care more about the quarterly review than a bunch of native people dying" here - attempting to show one aspect of the cruel reality of materialist capitalism - This isn't always the case, but very very real indeed. I personally would have loved the film 10 times more had there been no deus ex machina happy ending sorta crap but oh well.

Anyway in other news-
I am optimistic for more movies to come using 3D for actual emphatic techniques - as opposed to Avatar's 'showoffy' techniques which is fine since its perhaps one of the first films ever used to employ 3D? (Despite it having been invented about a century ago)





Well, see that's where I agree with you. Princess Mononoke is a vastly superior film to Avatar, both in terms of characterization/plot and artwork.

That's also why I think Avatar is more in line with The Last Samurai than PM. Look at the villains in The Last Samurai. Which is more similar to Avatar? Like you said, the female leader was a nuanced, multi-faceted character. The Prime Minister in Last Samurai was a money-grubbing industrialist, much more like the "villain" in Avatar.

I'm confused as to where America-Japan relations fit in though. Saying the Americans wanted to use Japan as a way-station, while true, reinforces my point that Last Samurai's villains had a very similar motivation as Avatar's.

Whereas Princess Mononoke was set in an imaginary world that had zero American-Japanese history in it, and the industrialists were a group of enterprising villagers who came up with their own gun manufacturing techniques etc while fighting off the forces of gov't and nature.
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
January 07 2010 12:59 GMT
#1176
On January 07 2010 21:39 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:33 GunSlinger wrote:
Don't go on forums if you are a condescending prick who likes to make sure that every person he is even remotely acquainted with absolutely knows his/her opinions even if they don't want to know his/her opinions. It makes you look like you have to much time on your hands and too few friends.


You ever read the title of the thread? Or did you just skim through a few posts, get pissed off because you like the movie, and decide that cursing at people without providing a single new thing to the discussion was a good thing to do?

This is a thread called Avatar: Overhyped?? HMMMM. I wonder what people should be discussing there. Maybe if the thread was called Avatar: Positive Comments Only, I could understand where you're coming from, but right now, you just look angry for no good reason.


At least 75% of your posts in this thread have had nothing to do with the title. You are ridiculous. You just keep talking about how bad and original the plot and characters were. Seriously, stop posting on TL about Avatar. Nobody cares anymore. At first people tried to actually discuss some stuff, which I admire since it doesn't happen all that often here. But it just breaks down.Kids like you don't consider what people are actually saying, it's all just something that you have to think up a clever rebuttal to. It's annoying. YOU are annoying.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 07 2010 13:00 GMT
#1177
that was a goddamn good movie

and i didn't see it in 3d, i watched it on my laptop

eat it
why so 진지해?
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
January 07 2010 13:02 GMT
#1178
On January 07 2010 22:00 Rekrul wrote:
that was a goddamn good movie

and i didn't see it in 3d, i watched it on my laptop

eat it


Hahahahaha.
...
...
Hahahaha

Rekrul dismisses 58 pages of obsessive argumentation with 2 lines.
Good stuff.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 07 2010 13:09 GMT
#1179
On January 07 2010 21:59 GunSlinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 21:39 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On January 07 2010 21:33 GunSlinger wrote:
Don't go on forums if you are a condescending prick who likes to make sure that every person he is even remotely acquainted with absolutely knows his/her opinions even if they don't want to know his/her opinions. It makes you look like you have to much time on your hands and too few friends.


You ever read the title of the thread? Or did you just skim through a few posts, get pissed off because you like the movie, and decide that cursing at people without providing a single new thing to the discussion was a good thing to do?

This is a thread called Avatar: Overhyped?? HMMMM. I wonder what people should be discussing there. Maybe if the thread was called Avatar: Positive Comments Only, I could understand where you're coming from, but right now, you just look angry for no good reason.


At least 75% of your posts in this thread have had nothing to do with the title. You are ridiculous. You just keep talking about how bad and original the plot and characters were. Seriously, stop posting on TL about Avatar. Nobody cares anymore. At first people tried to actually discuss some stuff, which I admire since it doesn't happen all that often here. But it just breaks down.Kids like you don't consider what people are actually saying, it's all just something that you have to think up a clever rebuttal to. It's annoying. YOU are annoying.


Makes a lot of sense. Justifying hype should have nothing to do with the actual quality of the movie.

Nice to see you qualify your post with a nonsense statistic like 75% too. Sure makes it sound scientific. Here's another stat for you: 100% of your posts today have had nothing to do with the title.

What you have managed to do is curse and hurl insults solely because you think I should stop talking on a forum. And you're insults aren't even consistent. On one hand, I'm a condescending prick, on the other, you call me an annoying kid. While I've posted about 20x more than you in this thread, I've never once called anyone a kid or a prick even though I disagreed with them completely.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
January 07 2010 13:48 GMT
#1180
Believe it or not I slept most of the second half of the movie.

Its simply too boring =/

And the 3d graphics were the biggest disapointment I ever had regarding movies.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 90 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group A
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Afreeca ASL 6373
StarCastTV_EN105
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
09:00
WardiTV Mondays #78
CranKy Ducklings95
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft375
SortOf 119
ProTech36
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 26858
Calm 3610
Jaedong 2578
Horang2 2275
Bisu 1434
BeSt 580
firebathero 465
Larva 331
Zeus 251
actioN 227
[ Show more ]
Stork 212
Pusan 198
EffOrt 167
ZerO 152
Killer 95
Light 92
Soulkey 47
ToSsGirL 45
Mind 37
soO 23
Hm[arnc] 22
yabsab 17
GoRush 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Bale 13
Terrorterran 10
Movie 9
Sacsri 9
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe206
NeuroSwarm119
febbydoto13
League of Legends
JimRising 426
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss984
zeus820
byalli133
olofmeister48
kRYSTAL_48
Other Games
singsing810
crisheroes244
Mew2King31
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL502
Other Games
BasetradeTV458
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 148
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH226
• LUISG 26
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1165
• Stunt922
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
51m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 51m
OSC
13h 51m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 51m
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
23h 51m
GSL
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Escore
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
IPSL
5 days
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
6 days
Ladder Legends
6 days
BSL
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.