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On June 03 2009 09:40 SonuvBob wrote:+ Show Spoiler [finale] +Yeah, the finale was pretty disappointing. All those B&W previews throughout the season and they amount to pretty much nothing? + Show Spoiler +I don't know about nothing...
Walt let Jane die, Jane's dad fucks up at air traffic control because of it, two planes crash into each other (?), teddy bear from one plane falls into the Whites' swimming pool
very butterfly effectish :p
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I really liked all of the seasons of Breaking Bad as well as Dexter. I can't wait for the next season of Breaking Bad, I recommend it to anyone who is looking for some decent television!
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On June 04 2009 04:14 Carnac wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I don't know about nothing...
Walt let Jane die, Jane's dad fucks up at air traffic control because of it, two planes crash into each other (?), teddy bear from one plane falls into the Whites' swimming pool
very butterfly effectish :p
+ Show Spoiler +Is that really worth a whole season of foreshadowing though? They make it look like something important was going to happen to Walt. =/
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On June 04 2009 12:20 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 04:14 Carnac wrote:On June 03 2009 09:40 SonuvBob wrote:+ Show Spoiler [finale] +Yeah, the finale was pretty disappointing. All those B&W previews throughout the season and they amount to pretty much nothing? + Show Spoiler +I don't know about nothing...
Walt let Jane die, Jane's dad fucks up at air traffic control because of it, two planes crash into each other (?), teddy bear from one plane falls into the Whites' swimming pool
very butterfly effectish :p + Show Spoiler +Is that really worth a whole season of foreshadowing though? They make it look like something important was going to happen to Walt. =/
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, I thought the house was going to catch on fire or explode or something, and all his money would get destroyed :\
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On June 04 2009 12:24 littlechava wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 12:20 SonuvBob wrote:On June 04 2009 04:14 Carnac wrote:On June 03 2009 09:40 SonuvBob wrote:+ Show Spoiler [finale] +Yeah, the finale was pretty disappointing. All those B&W previews throughout the season and they amount to pretty much nothing? + Show Spoiler +I don't know about nothing...
Walt let Jane die, Jane's dad fucks up at air traffic control because of it, two planes crash into each other (?), teddy bear from one plane falls into the Whites' swimming pool
very butterfly effectish :p + Show Spoiler +Is that really worth a whole season of foreshadowing though? They make it look like something important was going to happen to Walt. =/ + Show Spoiler +Yeah, I thought the house was going to catch on fire or explode or something, and all his money would get destroyed :\
+ Show Spoiler +I had originally thought either a meth lab explosion (towards the beginning of the series), or the El Polo drug dealer blew up Walt's house because his brother in law is with the DEA (later part of the series). To have it be something completely random, was kinda silly. Well, not random, just so very unlikely that the stars aligned so perfectly. Also, weren't Walt's glasses found in the driveway area, where the two bodies were? Sure, they could belong to someone on the plane, but they aren't the most common frames. At the end of the finale, it was just him looking into the pool, so I'm not sure how they'll work that in, or if they just overlooked it.
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On June 04 2009 12:33 So no fek wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2009 12:24 littlechava wrote:On June 04 2009 12:20 SonuvBob wrote:On June 04 2009 04:14 Carnac wrote:On June 03 2009 09:40 SonuvBob wrote:+ Show Spoiler [finale] +Yeah, the finale was pretty disappointing. All those B&W previews throughout the season and they amount to pretty much nothing? + Show Spoiler +I don't know about nothing...
Walt let Jane die, Jane's dad fucks up at air traffic control because of it, two planes crash into each other (?), teddy bear from one plane falls into the Whites' swimming pool
very butterfly effectish :p + Show Spoiler +Is that really worth a whole season of foreshadowing though? They make it look like something important was going to happen to Walt. =/ + Show Spoiler +Yeah, I thought the house was going to catch on fire or explode or something, and all his money would get destroyed :\ + Show Spoiler +I had originally thought either a meth lab explosion (towards the beginning of the series), or the El Polo drug dealer blew up Walt's house because his brother in law is with the DEA (later part of the series). To have it be something completely random, was kinda silly. Well, not random, just so very unlikely that the stars aligned so perfectly. Also, weren't Walt's glasses found in the driveway area, where the two bodies were? Sure, they could belong to someone on the plane, but they aren't the most common frames. At the end of the finale, it was just him looking into the pool, so I'm not sure how they'll work that in, or if they just overlooked it.
+ Show Spoiler +Sooo that's where the pink teddy bear came from. I originally thought it maybe was a gift for the new baby girl before the house explodes... or something. But no, it's from the plane crashes. hm .....
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+ Show Spoiler +If Walter was smart he would say that he won the money by playing poker or something. It also covers the excuse why he is away so often, he can say that he makes trips to Las Vegas (not far from new mexico) and that he won a big tournament when he said he went to go visit his mother. That way he can take credit for earning the money to provide for his family and it wasn't by dumb luck.
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I watched 17 episodes in 2 days to get myself caught up. The finale was a let down, but overall season 2 was great. I give this a solid grade: A. I recommend it. Something good to watch while waiting for dexter.
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On June 06 2009 07:24 BlackJack wrote:+ Show Spoiler +If Walter was smart he would say that he won the money by playing poker or something. It also covers the excuse why he is away so often, he can say that he makes trips to Las Vegas (not far from new mexico) and that he won a big tournament when he said he went to go visit his mother. That way he can take credit for earning the money to provide for his family and it wasn't by dumb luck.
+ Show Spoiler +That also explains his mad bluffing skills when he got Hank to fold AK :O
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for me, breaking bad is the best TV show EVER
1. breaking bad season 2
2. breaking bad season 1
3. house
4. dexter
5. lost
if you didn't watch breaking bad - do it!
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wow u guys overrate breaking bad imo , its WAY to slow and there is way too much nagging and blablabla and too much drama. but its still good
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On June 07 2009 03:48 DanteStyle wrote:
wow u guys overrate breaking bad imo , its WAY to slow and there is way too much nagging and blablabla and too much drama. but its still good
Exactly.
I can see why this is compared with dexter but all I can read is hype and overhype.
I finished watching the second season and it was a let down for me.
I love dexter more because it is a show where characters are having a battle of wit. Every character is acting as smart as they can.
On the other side you have Breaking Bad where you have people acting stupid and then the scenario tries to cover for that and gives reasons, this is the same kind of failure that happens periodicaly in Heroes.
The story of breaking bad is captivating. Althout little bit formatized as the second season was clearly divided in such a way that you get one plot thing/ episode.
The plot structure which really get me into a show is the one found in Dexter and Death Note. You have always 3 level of plot. One plot for that episode, one plot for 3-4 episode, one major plot for the season.
Simpsons have also such kind of plot structure within one episode, which makes that 20 min episode seems that it is much longer than it really is. Same feeling happened with dexter but it is quite extrem.
I have never been so relieved by the end of the last season of Dexter, it fully closed that season, you could breath relax and not wanting more.
Breaking bad does that big mistake of not closing that season clearly. The end season was more like a midseason "high point". You get to understand what will happen after this season.
In conclusion: Dexter is better than this.
Dexter: special people acting smart.
Breaking bad: normal people acting stupid.
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On May 31 2009 13:19 zizou21 wrote:
i hope this isn't like weeds
AMC's Madmen was top knotch tho, def checking this out
It's not cartoony like Weeds. The show is incredibly dark and it's not necessarily filled with fast paced action (some of it is there though.) It's more about character development and I can see how you might lose patience if you expect something big in every episode, but I'm glad they don't cut it up like that. It makes it feel like more of a series and less episodic. Shit like House is completely formulaic and there's barely any developing story, whereas this is slower inside each episode but the story carries along the entire season.
There's really not much comedy in Breaking Bad, and it's usually pretty wry, but I like it that way in a serious drama. I'm not looking forward to finishing season 2 though. :/
Also, Tuco is the best badass I've ever seen on TV.
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Yo I ended up watching the entire 2 seasons with my girlfriend because of this thread. loved the show, but the finale really left a really sour taste in my mouth :x
That shit was just dumb. And it did what every fucking bad show does (foreshadowing the bear,etc). Fuck what a shame. and bringing in the butterfly effect into this just makes me want to puke + Show Spoiler +Although I am glad to see that bitch die
btw are they making a 3rd season? Did they write the first two seasons at the same time?
EDIT: haha glad someone mentioned that poker hand walter bluffed. that shit didn't make ANY fucking sense ahaaah. srsly how does shit like this get on TV
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Agreed, the finale did suck balls. I didn't mind the foreshadowing, but it was a completely fucking ridiculous plot twist.
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He's he one of those badguys doing crime for good like Dexter? Or what other shows can you compare it to? I might check it out if its pretty high quality when I get back from my trip 
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He's not really doing it for good. He's doing it for himself. It's very grey (not black/white) in a lot of areas.
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On May 31 2009 20:57 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2009 20:53 Carnac wrote:On May 31 2009 20:43 CubEdIn wrote:However, I can't believe you guys watched/loved this and dexter but can't be bothered to watch Jekyll. one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. also dexter & breaking bad are series with 2-3 seasons (+ more confirmed), while Jekyll is a 6 episode miniseries that ran 2 years ago... Erm, I was referring to shows with similar themes, because someone mentioned the lovely character with a deep dark secret. In my opinion, this has been portrayed A LOT better in Jekyll then it has in Dexter OR Breaking Bad. Just because it's 6 episode-long (of 1hr each, meaning it's about 12 "normal" episodes), doesn't mean it's of less quality. It's an awesome miniseries, but because it didn't get as much publicity as the popular shows, everyone thinks it's crap. -_- Edit: and also, Dexter is from 2006 if I recall correctly. I really don't see why length is a determinant factor in choosing whether to watch something or not.
Glad this topic was bumped, because I wanted to address something here, and was too lazy to bump it myself. I put Jekyll in my Netflix queue on your recommendation. And as has already been stated, no one who hasn't seen this show thinks it's crap. You just said it yourself, the show didn't get any publicity, and thus the majority of the people here at TL, hadn't seen it, or even heard of it. There's a big difference between never hearing of a show, and thinking it's crap. 
Moving on. I watched both discs in a two day span, and there's no denying that it isn't a bad mini-series, in fact, it's actually pretty damn good. I really enjoyed it, however, after having watched it, without any opinion at all to begin with, I can honestly say that I don't think it's anywhere near as good as Dexter. Breaking Bad was good, but I think it falls short of Dexter as well, so Jekyll and Breaking Bad would probably be on the same level for me.
As for the character with a deep dark secret, I still think Dexter does it best. As was mentioned by someone else, it's like a constant game of hiding his identity, and juggling his job/real life, while hiding his nightlife. It very akin to Death Note, where he has to plot his moves a couple steps ahead, and adapt as the net closes in on him. Makes for a very tense and exciting show.
I'll agree that in Breaking Bad it does kinda seem like ordinary people make stupid mistakes. + Show Spoiler +Like with his brother in law, for example. I can understand not wanting to think someone you love is doing anything wrong, but he hasn't even given Walt a passing thought. Let's see, Walt suddenly takes an interest in a ride along, checks out a meth lab. He's a Chemistry teacher, and could do much more in the field, so he definitely has the knowledge. Shortly after the ride along, almost pure meth shows up, the kind of stuff that some random junkie couldn't produce. There's suspicions that he has a second cell phone, he was missing the same time his pot dealer was (who has the license plate of the Capn), where his car was found in Mexico, with Tuco, a well known meth dealer. It's been a few weeks since I've watched the series, so I can't recall all the details, but I think there might have been more.
That's one flaw with Jekyll. Yes, the hiding of the secret was better than Breaking Bad, I'll agree, but being that it is a short show, they just don't have the time to play the games like Dexter does. And it's unfortunate. I think that if the series had been longer, they could have fleshed it out more, but it wasn't. He didn't hide the secret all that well, but he understandably couldn't, being that he's essentially two people, and has no control over Hyde, other than a few rules in place. + Show Spoiler +It basically went like, "okay, I have a separate place. I don't spend any time with my family. She's so suspicious of me, that she hires a PI, who finds out my secret, but withholds the information from my wife." Whereas in Dexter, he has to juggle everything, and when suspicions are cast upon him, he deals with them. If he didn't plan well enough to avoid them all together. But once again, it doesn't take away from Jekyll, because he's more worried about protecting his family, than he is hiding his secret.
Anyhow, TL;DR would be:
I really enjoyed Jekyll, and would recommend it to everyone here who hadn't heard of it (like I hadn't), however, I still think Dexter did a better job, and think it holds the spot as the best show on TV (probably undisputed now that The Wire is done with).
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Season Three in 5 days!
Everyone watch or rewatch
Best show on television!
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breaking bad, weed, dexter
haven't been able to get into these 3 shows yet
shows I watch:
Archer, Life and Times of Tim, Anthony Bourdain No Reservations, Lost, True Blood, The Pacific, Mad Men, Sons of Anarchy... That's about it I think.
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