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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:01 travis wrote: im pretty sure the point of that was to show that walter was pretty much losing his shit.. I disagree. It's Walter trying to control the pieces of his life that he can. In a world of Tuco's and Gus's and the Cousins and the DEA, Walter is a man struggling to command what he can. He can command the laboratory - except for a fly. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:55 slyboogie wrote: But you think that The Shield or Game of Thrones is written more "realistically?" These characters are in impossible situations, realism becomes relative. It's an odd gripe. I'd like a specific example. Hmm, like Tuco just randomly beating a guy to death, or Jesse not realising that pouring the rest of their water supply into their last source of electricity, while being stranded in the desert, would be a bad idea. Like situations seem to always end in the most extreme way possible. On July 16 2011 07:01 Skilledblob wrote: Game of Thrones being in a fantasy setting kinda makes it a bad example for realism  when does the new season of Breaking Bad begin ? I'm not talking about realism as in "set in the real world" but as in "how a person with more than three active braincells would actually act". | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:06 slyboogie wrote: I disagree. It's Walter trying to control the pieces of his life that he can. In a world of Tuco's and Gus's and the Cousins and the DEA, Walter is a man struggling to command what he can. He can command the laboratory - except for a fly. I would still call that crazy On July 16 2011 07:07 OrchidThief wrote: Hmm, like Tuco just randomly beating a guy to death, or Jesse not realising that pouring the rest of their water supply into their last source of electricity, while being stranded in the desert, would be a bad idea. I don't think those are fair gripes at all. Tuco's character is supposed to be very extreme, and I am sure there are very extreme people out in the world that would act like that. What Jesse did I could see someone accidentally doing, lots of people do stupid stuff when their mind is focused on only one thing. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:07 OrchidThief wrote: Hmm, like Tuco just randomly beating a guy to death, or Jesse not realising that pouring the rest of their water supply into their last source of electricity, while being stranded in the desert, would be a bad idea. Like situations seem to always end in the most extreme way possible. Tuco is insane. That is his characterization. He's not that different from other utterly self-destructive characters in other shows. I don't really have an excuse for the water supply thing but why would Seth Bullock beat the living shit out of Eva's father? Why couldn't Omar just stay in hiding and be happy? Why would Ned Stark suddenly start talking about how he was a traitor? Why would Roger Sterling fuck Joan on the street after getting robbed? Why would Don Draper like Sonny Liston more than Mohamed Ali? They're characters. They are impulsive and act out and behave in extreme manner so that we, as viewers, can see humanity in its most awful and supreme. It'll always be bad writing where drama is concerned, if you want to logic it out. | ||
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OrchidThief
Denmark2298 Posts
On July 16 2011 07:19 slyboogie wrote: Tuco is insane. That is his characterization. He's not that different from other utterly self-destructive characters in other shows. I don't really have an excuse for the water supply thing but why would Seth Bullock beat the living shit out of Eva's father? Why couldn't Omar just stay in hiding and be happy? Why would Ned Stark suddenly start talking about how he was a traitor? Why would Roger Sterling fuck Joan on the street after getting robbed? Why would Don Draper like Sonny Liston more than Mohamed Ali? They're characters. They are impulsive and act out and behave in extreme manner so that we, as viewers, can see humanity in its most awful and supreme. It'll always be bad writing where drama is concerned, if you want to logic it out. I'm fine with extremes, it's just the sheer density of them in this show. Like there's no middleground, and stuff just always ends the worst/best/most unlucky way possible. Not to compare the quality, (at all) but it's like the old beverly hills 90210 where half of the characters have been kidnapped, raped, had drug/alcohol/gambling addictions, been held hostage, and so on. By themselves the situations aren't unrealistic, but because they occur so often it ends up seeming excessive and unrealistic to me. Anyway, I make it seem like I don't like the show, this is mostly minor grievances, and I mostly do think it's a decent show. | ||
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adiga
495 Posts
Walter is such a great character. Only 3 days for the new season I'm sooooo exited! | ||
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Crossed9
50 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On July 17 2011 15:12 Crossed9 wrote: I`m pretty sure that fly episode was just an attempt to create some metaphorism as well as to try and milk out the show a little bit, it was also a bit comical but I see no reason the Breaking Bad writers need to stoop down to the level of countless trash animes and add pointless fillers. Fly was great. Funny as hell while dealing with Walt's guilt over the death of Jessie's g/f. More episodes like that are welcome | ||
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woody60707
United States1863 Posts
On July 16 2011 06:27 BlackJack wrote: Pretty sure your prediction is off since + Show Spoiler + The show's creator has confirmed that Jesse shot Gale Close, but the devil is in the detail. To put this in context. he was ask that question because the last scene's camera movement made it seem Jesse moved his gun at the last second. This was a mistake. it was never intended to look like Jesse moved his gun at the last second. AFAIK, he never said Jesse shot Gale. Now assume for a sec that it wasn't Gale being called up, but Gus. Maybe Gus was over at Gales house at the time because he was telling Gale he was taking over tomorrow (because Walter was dead lol). Yea, that most likely isn't going to happen. But that would be AWESOME. The cook would be running the show. + Show Spoiler + The A.V. Club: Last season ended with an episode that was reasonably conclusive, whereas this season ends with a cliffhanger. Why’d you choose to end on an ambiguous note? Vince Gilligan: Well first let me ask you: When you say “ambiguous” do you mean ambiguous in the sense of did Jesse shoot Gale or not? AVC: Among other things, yes. VG: Gotcha. That’s interesting, because I’m hearing that from some folks, that question. To me, for what it’s worth, it’s not actually meant to be ambiguous. It’s meant to be, “Oh my god, Jesse shot poor Gale.” But I’m realizing now that when people see the camera come dollying around so it’s looking down the barrel of the gun, some are reading that as maybe he’s changing his point of aim. But that’s not what we intended. Apparently it’s not as clear as I thought it would be. [Laughs.] | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 17 2011 15:12 Crossed9 wrote: I`m pretty sure that fly episode was just an attempt to create some metaphorism as well as to try and milk out the show a little bit, it was also a bit comical but I see no reason the Breaking Bad writers need to stoop down to the level of countless trash animes and add pointless fillers. They only have 13 episodes. Vince Gilligan isn't going to waste one on "filler." If you didn't like it, you didn't like it. And I don't know what you mean by metamorphism, unless you mean metaphorical. | ||
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P3T3R
Canada87 Posts
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
On July 17 2011 16:21 P3T3R wrote: Sounds interesting. After watching 3 seasons, dexter got boring for me lol. Some would argue that season 4 was the best Dexter so you may be missing out! Agreed about Fly though, absolutely loved that episode. | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
On July 17 2011 16:21 P3T3R wrote: Sounds interesting. After watching 3 seasons, dexter got boring for me lol. If you stopped watching dexter because you were bored then you won't last 3 episodes of breaking bad. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
yay best thing after dexter easily | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
I really love the camera work; from black and white still camera shots to the time lapsed clouds out in the desert to the various lighting effects to the angled shots. I took a course in high school called "Art of Film" which discussed many different techniques used by directors of photography to enhance the viewing experience and also to instill different emotions in the viewers. Either I was just really high while watching it, or the director does a very nicejob shooting this show. The plot so far hasn't been half bad either. Edit: My fault, was using my phone during class and obviously clicked the wrong thread t.t | ||
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
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United States709 Posts
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