Anime Discussion Thread - Page 504

On December 09 2010 09:46 LunarDestiny wrote:
winter lineup doesn't impress. + Show Spoiler +

I'll try watching that yugioh wannabe.

On December 10 2010 04:56 Blobskillz wrote:
so the question still remains, why do we have an apparent lack in animes with a considerable depth in their story even though it's commonly known that those animes tend to have a bigger audience and thus creat more profit. And that's where I am not sure to be true. To me it seems like missing source material, but that'd still leave original animations which can be quite successfull ( Angel beats eg. ). And as was pointed out before there are still a crapton of Mangas around that dont have an anime. Which is quite fascinating considering that Mangas that didnt even get close to finishing yet allready got animes.
I dont think you can solely blame it on an increased need for tits. Which brings me to the assumption that a combination of getting too old for anime, lacking money on the customer side and that leading to less money for studios. And all this ends in a way that the studios have to produce animes that appeal in a surefire way to a crowd that is willing to spend loads of money for their anime.

These people tend to be harcore otakus and most of those seemingly tend to build up an increased interest in more or less pointless character driven shows.

On December 10 2010 00:59 HitoriTomoyo wrote:
Unfortunately, sex sells and thus many anime series throw in a lot of unnecessary fanservice in order to sell out to the creepier population of the anime fanbase. It CAN be seldom funny if thrown in at random times but at the rate that it's used it completely inhibits any series' potential to develop its characters and plot and present an overall enjoyable story.

For example (not a good one but it's the first one that came to mind), a lot of fans looks at Hinagiku Katsura (Hayate no Gotoku!) and immediately swoon over concepts like "zOmg TeH SEx!!!1!1" or "KawAIIIIII!!!1!", completely ignoring the fact that she's amongst one of the most fleshed out and believable characters in the series (save the whole moving/attacking/thinking at a superhuman rate but that's like a precondition of being an anime character these days =/; while relatively cliche, at least a sufficient reason is presented for her overall demeanor/attitude towards life and she's one of the few characters that can truly connect with Hayate on a level deeper than a lot of the other characters ever could.

Unfortunately, this image was overturned by the anime adaptation where random eyecatches and other scenes focus on Hayate running into her (or the other females for that matter) when they're stripping (granted this occurs in the manga as well but not as much as the anime displays it >3<).

On December 10 2010 06:51 Shauni wrote:


As you corrected yourself, it doesn't require any source material to create a good anime (even though Angel Beats is a horrendous example).
I just think it's a matter of effort, or rather the lack of it.. Taking simple slice of life and comedy manga and adaptating it into anime doesn't take much imagination, research or directing skills. Plus, evidently it makes money. It feels like the studios are more interested in short-term gain than building timeless classics, increasing their long term reputation and sales. Trying to create something more creative and artistic is a bit more risky. I think we talked about this previously, but Casshern Sins and Kaiba were both financial failures, despite being two of the more creative anime produced in these last two years.

On December 10 2010 06:52 Pfhor wrote:


My problem is not with developer's throwing fanservice into their products, as much as I hate that. My bigger problem is with the fanbase that take a decently executed series like Nanoha which DOES NOT focus on sexualizing it's characters (I'm not gonna say there's no fanservice, but it's definitely not the focus of the series), and then proceed to sexualize it anyway. This kind of thing is probably in other types of viewership, but it seems more rampant among Anime viewers moreso than people who watch say, a primetime american TV series.

On December 10 2010 06:03 Blobskillz wrote:


yeah that's right franchises make money I never doubted that because franchise is such a wide term that it practically combines everything you can buy related to the anime in one group so I think you missed my point.

When you can name one franchise deriving from an anime that's older then 2 years and a moeblob or titty anime if you cant then I think my former statement about a corellation between story and longterm money is still right

On December 10 2010 08:50 DeLoAdEr wrote:
any recommendations from this years spring/summer/fall season? i skimmed through the charts of each season but nothing seemed really special!

On December 10 2010 06:19 ThaZenith wrote:


Thanks for the link.

Two or three look interesting. Nothing that jumps out at me though.

But then again, the best don't always have compelling descriptions. Guess I'll have to wait for them to know for sure.

On December 10 2010 08:54 Sentenal wrote:

Depends on what type of anime you like. Can you give any ideas as to what anime/genres of anime that you do like?

On December 10 2010 07:19 Shauni wrote:
It's also a problem where the culture is isolated such as Japan, there will be limitations and target audiences will become... easier to target as the industry develops. If you compare it to other mediums, it's not nearly as specific as anime. You can see this difference clearly while comparing it to big budget anime movies, even modern ones (Sky Crawlers, Paprika for instance) - the movies doesn't really require a certain isolated audience.
The small cultural demographic is just getting more and more narrow the more the studios and (obviously even manga-writers and game-makers) focus on copying each-other instead of trying to thread new ground. How many times haven't we seen the same haunted house filler in almost every slice of life and comedy show? And the ordinary high school student getting caught up in something completely surreal? It might fool the japanese otakus, but I don't think the general audience will remain as forgiving. As I said before, short term gain.

On December 10 2010 09:53 Ferrose wrote:
Edit @ TWGOK readers: Is it bad that I got a little hot the first time I saw Jun? O_O