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On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
Rofl, did you see the seats I got??
The video barely showed the actual seats of the stadium. The massive crowd in the front were all seats placed on the field of the dome. I don't think I'll be able to even find myself unless I take a look at the vid during the balloon scenes.
Also, wouldn't be surprised I missed a jump or 4 lol.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
She's not that hyped. The only people that have talked a lot about her in this thread are Nagi and Kaze. There might be a few more but they're rare occasions.
There are plenty of singers that get attention. In the end, you hear what you want to hear, and the reason why you haven't really heard about anyone but Nana is because you just haven't been looking at the right threads. There was a thread made on J-pop a while back (I think it's by Kaze actually) who goes into detail about plenty of singers who are really good.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
The real question is why do they get hyped over Nana, when they can get hyped over JAM Project?
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
She's not that hyped. The only people that have talked a lot about her in this thread are Nagi and Kaze. There might be a few more but they're rare occasions.
There are plenty of singers that get attention. In the end, you hear what you want to hear, and the reason why you haven't really heard about anyone but Nana is because you just haven't been looking at the right threads. There was a thread made on J-pop a while back (I think it's by Kaze actually) who goes into detail about plenty of singers who are really good.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
I find it strange you say Nana is the biggest name you hear about from Japan. Just take a look at TL's Japanese Music Discussion thread. You'll get all the big names and the only person who posts Nana music there is me. Furthermore, I hardly ever hear Nana's name come up in the context of Japanese music. Perfume, AKB48, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc. are the names I hear. I bring up Nana and most don't care for her. The only forums her name dominates are anime related forums (and most people here still don't even care for her). In the context of seiyuu singers, she is uncontested #1 in sales and popularity. Outside of this, she has only recently started to make a name for herself in mainstream music. This is because seiyuu singers are known for being pretty bad compared to mainstream and are a very niche market. Enter Nana who actually has talent (or rather, 15 years of training prior to debuting) and she would eventually sweep away all competition. If you are referring to tie-up singers, they actually tend to be more popular than Nana as well.
So I guess I misunderstood your complaint since this is an anime thread. Nana is VERY popular in Japan (apparently she now sells 10k seat concerts via lottery only because she's that popular) but not as dominate as you seem to think. Compared to any top singer in Japan, she will lose in popularity and sales almost every time. However, if we're just talking seiyuu singers, then I'm really surprised of your opinion.
I'm assuming that the conclusion here is your perception of her popularity was incorrect and that will satisfy you, but if you're still interested in why I personally like her, here are some reasons. First, strength of voice. The amount of power she can sing with is incredibly surprising and pretty much hits me in my audio sweet spot, so to speak. Second, her live singing is amazing. It's not often a singer's best sound is live>live recording>cd recording, but it's true for Nana. Third, consistency. Her singing is ridiculously consistent, down to the second. Fourth, vocal range. Not the best in the world or anything, but she can sing a pretty wide range from "super cutesy high pitched" to "deep and strong" voice and do it well. The other reasons aren't music related, but personality, looks, charisma, and while it's not limited to Nana, that concert coordination!
oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
On May 05 2012 05:39 KazeHydra wrote: oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
Ive been watching Yamato the last week or so and its been pretty fresh the animation (that sounds counterintuitive but whatever) Im really enjoying it, but then quality of animation isnt really a huge pull for me unless the chara designs have some wierd kink that pisses me off everytime I try to watch. Which again is pretty rare.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
I find it strange you say Nana is the biggest name you hear about from Japan. Just take a look at TL's Japanese Music Discussion thread. You'll get all the big names and the only person who posts Nana music there is me. Furthermore, I hardly ever hear Nana's name come up in the context of Japanese music. Perfume, AKB48, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc. are the names I hear. I bring up Nana and most don't care for her. The only forums her name dominates are anime related forums (and most people here still don't even care for her). In the context of seiyuu singers, she is uncontested #1 in sales and popularity. Outside of this, she has only recently started to make a name for herself in mainstream music. This is because seiyuu singers are known for being pretty bad compared to mainstream and are a very niche market. Enter Nana who actually has talent (or rather, 15 years of training prior to debuting) and she would eventually sweep away all competition. If you are referring to tie-up singers, they actually tend to be more popular than Nana as well.
So I guess I misunderstood your complaint since this is an anime thread. Nana is VERY popular in Japan (apparently she now sells 10k seat concerts via lottery only because she's that popular) but not as dominate as you seem to think. Compared to any top singer in Japan, she will lose in popularity and sales almost every time. However, if we're just talking seiyuu singers, then I'm really surprised of your opinion.
I'm assuming that the conclusion here is your perception of her popularity was incorrect and that will satisfy you, but if you're still interested in why I personally like her, here are some reasons. First, strength of voice. The amount of power she can sing with is incredibly surprising and pretty much hits me in my audio sweet spot, so to speak. Second, her live singing is amazing. It's not often a singer's best sound is live>live recording>cd recording, but it's true for Nana. Third, consistency. Her singing is ridiculously consistent, down to the second. Fourth, vocal range. Not the best in the world or anything, but she can sing a pretty wide range from "super cutesy high pitched" to "deep and strong" voice and do it well. The other reasons aren't music related, but personality, looks, charisma, and while it's not limited to Nana, that concert coordination!
oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
Get ready for some real, QUALITY animation out of the 70s: (fartingzaku.jpg)
But to be fair, two of these pictures come from an episode that was animated so poorly, it wasn't even included in the DVDs, and the dubbed version completely omitted it.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
I find it strange you say Nana is the biggest name you hear about from Japan. Just take a look at TL's Japanese Music Discussion thread. You'll get all the big names and the only person who posts Nana music there is me. Furthermore, I hardly ever hear Nana's name come up in the context of Japanese music. Perfume, AKB48, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc. are the names I hear. I bring up Nana and most don't care for her. The only forums her name dominates are anime related forums (and most people here still don't even care for her). In the context of seiyuu singers, she is uncontested #1 in sales and popularity. Outside of this, she has only recently started to make a name for herself in mainstream music. This is because seiyuu singers are known for being pretty bad compared to mainstream and are a very niche market. Enter Nana who actually has talent (or rather, 15 years of training prior to debuting) and she would eventually sweep away all competition. If you are referring to tie-up singers, they actually tend to be more popular than Nana as well.
So I guess I misunderstood your complaint since this is an anime thread. Nana is VERY popular in Japan (apparently she now sells 10k seat concerts via lottery only because she's that popular) but not as dominate as you seem to think. Compared to any top singer in Japan, she will lose in popularity and sales almost every time. However, if we're just talking seiyuu singers, then I'm really surprised of your opinion.
I'm assuming that the conclusion here is your perception of her popularity was incorrect and that will satisfy you, but if you're still interested in why I personally like her, here are some reasons. First, strength of voice. The amount of power she can sing with is incredibly surprising and pretty much hits me in my audio sweet spot, so to speak. Second, her live singing is amazing. It's not often a singer's best sound is live>live recording>cd recording, but it's true for Nana. Third, consistency. Her singing is ridiculously consistent, down to the second. Fourth, vocal range. Not the best in the world or anything, but she can sing a pretty wide range from "super cutesy high pitched" to "deep and strong" voice and do it well. The other reasons aren't music related, but personality, looks, charisma, and while it's not limited to Nana, that concert coordination!
oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
Get ready for some real, QUALITY animation out of the 70s: (fartingzaku.jpg)
But to be fair, two of these pictures come from an episode that was animated so poorly, it wasn't even included in the DVDs, and the dubbed version completely omitted it.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
I find it strange you say Nana is the biggest name you hear about from Japan. Just take a look at TL's Japanese Music Discussion thread. You'll get all the big names and the only person who posts Nana music there is me. Furthermore, I hardly ever hear Nana's name come up in the context of Japanese music. Perfume, AKB48, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc. are the names I hear. I bring up Nana and most don't care for her. The only forums her name dominates are anime related forums (and most people here still don't even care for her). In the context of seiyuu singers, she is uncontested #1 in sales and popularity. Outside of this, she has only recently started to make a name for herself in mainstream music. This is because seiyuu singers are known for being pretty bad compared to mainstream and are a very niche market. Enter Nana who actually has talent (or rather, 15 years of training prior to debuting) and she would eventually sweep away all competition. If you are referring to tie-up singers, they actually tend to be more popular than Nana as well.
So I guess I misunderstood your complaint since this is an anime thread. Nana is VERY popular in Japan (apparently she now sells 10k seat concerts via lottery only because she's that popular) but not as dominate as you seem to think. Compared to any top singer in Japan, she will lose in popularity and sales almost every time. However, if we're just talking seiyuu singers, then I'm really surprised of your opinion.
I'm assuming that the conclusion here is your perception of her popularity was incorrect and that will satisfy you, but if you're still interested in why I personally like her, here are some reasons. First, strength of voice. The amount of power she can sing with is incredibly surprising and pretty much hits me in my audio sweet spot, so to speak. Second, her live singing is amazing. It's not often a singer's best sound is live>live recording>cd recording, but it's true for Nana. Third, consistency. Her singing is ridiculously consistent, down to the second. Fourth, vocal range. Not the best in the world or anything, but she can sing a pretty wide range from "super cutesy high pitched" to "deep and strong" voice and do it well. The other reasons aren't music related, but personality, looks, charisma, and while it's not limited to Nana, that concert coordination!
oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
I think I was mainly interested in why some people love her, so thanks for sharing your opinion. And the reason why I thought nana was hyped up is because out of the people that I do know who listen to J-pop, nana is a reoccurring name and that made me think she's really popular. Granted, she is considering the size of the auditorium she sang for. But since I haven't really paid attention to her, I was just curious as to why she stands out above other singers. And no, we're not just talking about seiyuu singers... to be honest, I don't pay that much attention to the artists themselves >__> hence my question for why Nana is so highly spoken of.
On May 05 2012 03:28 KazeHydra wrote: Nagisama, where are you!?!?! I bet you're the loser who didn't learn jump timing like I told you to.
On December 04 2011 04:58 KazeHydra wrote: At least learn when to shout "Eternal Blaze" and the 2 jumps that occur after; it feels like one of the most epic coordination every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFN-N1OeCis& Yeah quality sucks but it should hold me over until King's Night dl is finished :D which will in turn hold me over until I get rest of concerts in mail.
I just fail to understand why nana is so hyped up... care to explain? Eggsplain?
I don't really see how it's possible to explain why a singer is popular and have you suddenly be like "oh you're right, now I understand!" A large amount of people like her music...so she's popular. Music is so subjective, nothing anyone says is going to convince you one way or the other. I can point out her sales, but that's all just "hype." I can point out her powerful singing voice, but maybe you don't like it. I can point out her personality, but you probably don't care. The only objective thing is that her live singing is actually really good compared to your average singer, but again, if her music/voice doesn't appeal to you, then even that won't make you suddenly like her. So I guess my question to you is what do you think of her singing ability compared to the average singer? If you at least admit she's good, then there's your answer. If you think Aya Hirano is a better singer though...I don't even know what to say.
More like, there are many other Japanese music artists who are just as talented but all I've been hearing about is Nana. The question is more about why she is so unique as opposed to why she is good. And sure, music is subjective you're right. So then as a Nana fan, you can explain to me why you're subjected to her just like so many people. And you're right. Nothing anyone says will convince me to change my opinion on her because I just don't enjoy listening to her music all that much or watching her MVs. But it's not like trying to understand why other people like her is a bad move on my part.
In response to your question, I think her singing ability is about the same as the average singer, if not a notch up because what you said about the lives. I've watched like... 1. But there are other artists who are equally as gifted vocally, who performs great live, but don't receive the same hype as Nana does. Then would you say her main selling point is her image instead? Is that why people are so into her?
I find it strange you say Nana is the biggest name you hear about from Japan. Just take a look at TL's Japanese Music Discussion thread. You'll get all the big names and the only person who posts Nana music there is me. Furthermore, I hardly ever hear Nana's name come up in the context of Japanese music. Perfume, AKB48, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc. are the names I hear. I bring up Nana and most don't care for her. The only forums her name dominates are anime related forums (and most people here still don't even care for her). In the context of seiyuu singers, she is uncontested #1 in sales and popularity. Outside of this, she has only recently started to make a name for herself in mainstream music. This is because seiyuu singers are known for being pretty bad compared to mainstream and are a very niche market. Enter Nana who actually has talent (or rather, 15 years of training prior to debuting) and she would eventually sweep away all competition. If you are referring to tie-up singers, they actually tend to be more popular than Nana as well.
So I guess I misunderstood your complaint since this is an anime thread. Nana is VERY popular in Japan (apparently she now sells 10k seat concerts via lottery only because she's that popular) but not as dominate as you seem to think. Compared to any top singer in Japan, she will lose in popularity and sales almost every time. However, if we're just talking seiyuu singers, then I'm really surprised of your opinion.
I'm assuming that the conclusion here is your perception of her popularity was incorrect and that will satisfy you, but if you're still interested in why I personally like her, here are some reasons. First, strength of voice. The amount of power she can sing with is incredibly surprising and pretty much hits me in my audio sweet spot, so to speak. Second, her live singing is amazing. It's not often a singer's best sound is live>live recording>cd recording, but it's true for Nana. Third, consistency. Her singing is ridiculously consistent, down to the second. Fourth, vocal range. Not the best in the world or anything, but she can sing a pretty wide range from "super cutesy high pitched" to "deep and strong" voice and do it well. The other reasons aren't music related, but personality, looks, charisma, and while it's not limited to Nana, that concert coordination!
oops I forgot the reason I came here in the first place. Just finished dling the original Gundam series. terrible animation from 1979? Bring it.
I think I was mainly interested in why some people love her, so thanks for sharing your opinion. And the reason why I thought nana was hyped up is because out of the people that I do know who listen to J-pop, nana is a reoccurring name and that made me think she's really popular. Granted, she is considering the size of the auditorium she sang for. But since I haven't really paid attention to her, I was just curious as to why she stands out above other singers. And no, we're not just talking about seiyuu singers... to be honest, I don't pay that much attention to the artists themselves >__> hence my question for why Nana is so highly spoken of.
I see. I wish my friends listened to Nana haha. The only real thing that makes her "stand out" among Japanese singers is she gained fame via anime (Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha to be specific) in addition to her very powerful voice. But yeah, she's really not as popular as you seemed to think (though of course still popular enough to perform in Tokyo Dome and be invited to Kouhaku), and her international fanbase is actually relatively small. But as a huge fan, I am still obligated to say: wtf is wrong with you? Go listen to more Nana until you appreciate her greatness!
@Sent: LOL truly the best animation quality of all time. The one with head, shield, and beam saber actually made me laugh for real. So far animation actually hasn't bothered me as much as I thought it would. Character and mobile suit design is fine imo. Just when stuff like explosions happens, I get a good laugh when the frames freeze and a completely separate explosion is superimposed hahaha.
Good episode. My only complaint is that they need to cut down on the fanservice a bit. Yes, Im being absolutely serious. I see no logical reason for a zombie to be licking a chick's boobs, absolutely none. If the show is gonna try to appeal to the airheads, then they should try to find a more reasonable way to do it.
Tsukihi-chan is as cute as ever, and Ranko-chan is so fcking kawaii desnaaay.
But the real star of this show is Babu, I beleive they gave him a good amount of air time this episode. Soooo good.
Alright, so people here love talking about watching anime intellectually. Trolling aside, what is the quintessential "thinking man's anime"? Like, if Samurai Champloo or Gurren Lagann is the ideal "shut off your brain and have fun" anime, what would the counterpart to it be? Back in the day, I would have said Death Note (when I first started watching), but now I might pick Monster. What would you pick?
On May 05 2012 15:54 AwayFromLife wrote: Alright, so people here love talking about watching anime intellectually. Trolling aside, what is the quintessential "thinking man's anime"? Like, if Samurai Champloo or Gurren Lagann is the ideal "shut off your brain and have fun" anime, what would the counterpart to it be? Back in the day, I would have said Death Note (when I first started watching), but now I might pick Monster. What would you pick?
On May 05 2012 15:54 AwayFromLife wrote: Alright, so people here love talking about watching anime intellectually. Trolling aside, what is the quintessential "thinking man's anime"? Like, if Samurai Champloo or Gurren Lagann is the ideal "shut off your brain and have fun" anime, what would the counterpart to it be? Back in the day, I would have said Death Note (when I first started watching), but now I might pick Monster. What would you pick?
On May 05 2012 15:54 AwayFromLife wrote: Alright, so people here love talking about watching anime intellectually. Trolling aside, what is the quintessential "thinking man's anime"? Like, if Samurai Champloo or Gurren Lagann is the ideal "shut off your brain and have fun" anime, what would the counterpart to it be? Back in the day, I would have said Death Note (when I first started watching), but now I might pick Monster. What would you pick?
Bakemonogatari.
Dont watch Nisemonogatari (sequel), its just not as good.
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