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On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare?
Haha, people get so riled up with Naruto fans. Honestly i think it has one of the tightest narratives in all of anime.
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Just finished Angel Beats. I caved, that last episode was so tearful. I think I need a break from depressing animes, must watch pure comedy for at least a month.
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On April 30 2012 11:25 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 11:22 Kaal wrote:On April 30 2012 09:15 Maxie wrote:On April 30 2012 08:37 mcimba42 wrote:
I have no idea what the hell is going on with that metaphor. You and me both. Anyway, any tips for an anime that is a little like Fate Zero? As in how "dark" or "serious" it is, I guess. Don't know if those are the best choices of words, but... I guess I like when the protagonist is more like Kiritsugu than like Shirou, so to speak...
Umineko no Naku Koro ni, Monster, Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist, Samurai Seven (?)
Every time someone asks for "dark anime" and these get recommended, I just kind of laugh. Watch Mnemosyne. i dont think he's looking for "dark anime". dark isnt really the right word i think
He was just asking for non moralfag protags.
The most important thing I learned from Mnemosyne...
+ Show Spoiler +Vodka is derived from a word that means water.
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On April 30 2012 11:28 Abort Retry Fail wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha, people get so riled up with Naruto fans. Honestly i think it has one of the tightest narratives in all of anime.
No one even falls for anyone who tries to troll with Naruto.
You would prolly get more results by saying something like "K-ONs the best anime ever!". Not implying that K-ON is bad, just saying.
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On April 30 2012 11:47 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 11:28 Abort Retry Fail wrote:On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha, people get so riled up with Naruto fans. Honestly i think it has one of the tightest narratives in all of anime. No one even falls for anyone who tries to troll with Naruto. You would prolly get more results by saying something like "K-ONs the best anime ever!". Not implying that K-ON is bad, just saying.
Fuck you, K-On is the greatest anime series ever. I've never felt so attached to moe in my life.
Okay it might not be the best, but hey, it's all perspective right?
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You get a shitstorm anytime anyone says "X" is the best anime ever. I've not even been in TLADT for even half it's lifespan, but I've seen it with Cowboy Bebop, Gurren Lagann, Haruhi (I think), 5 centimeters per second, Nichijou, K-On, and now Code Geass. Opinions and what not.
On April 30 2012 11:28 Abort Retry Fail wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha, people get so riled up with Naruto fans. Honestly i think it has one of the tightest narratives in all of anime.
We're not supposed to talk about Naruto (or Bleach) on here, since it has it's own thread.
+ Show Spoiler +However, I agree Naruto can be really, really good at times, but it meanders like shit and constantly forgets about the plot to focus on characters no one gives a shit about.
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On April 30 2012 12:08 Requizen wrote:
You get a shitstorm anytime anyone says "X" is the best anime ever.
Try saying LOGH, I promise no shitstorm.
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On April 30 2012 10:05 Dullahan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 09:15 Maxie wrote:
Anyway, any tips for an anime that is a little like Fate Zero?
As in how "dark" or "serious" it is, I guess. Don't know if those are the best choices of words, but... I guess I like when the protagonist is more like Kiritsugu than like Shirou, so to speak... Steins;Gate and Madoka both get relatively dark/serious Also, Ga Rei Zero, Utawarerumono, maybe Higurashi after you get past the first several episodes or so Finished Refrain, decent ending. The + Show Spoiler + were a bit obnoxious. Was hoping for some more backstory on + Show Spoiler +. I liked the incremental changes in each playthrough (including Rin's stat increases), though I still have to say that overall I felt like the story just didn't have as much of an impact on me as Clannad/Kanon etc. Probably a bit unfair since I'm comparing it to other top-tier stuff I've recently read like MLA and S;G, but oh well. I suppose particularly unfair with the whole thing about + Show Spoiler +going back in time to redo the field trip accident after having JUST finished reading S;G true end and the unconscious comparisons between the two . Still ranking it relatively high up there on my list though. Off the top of my head, some of my favorite parts of Little Busters: + Show Spoiler +Wafuuuu~
Kurugaya and Mio trolling antics
Trial of Courage
Kyousuke in general
Haruka/Kanata arc
Sasasegawa
Masato/statue vs Riki+Rin
Realizing that Kyousuke had blocked the leaking fuel Wafuuuuuuuuu~
a lulzy comparison that I'd just like to throw out, probably both Uta and I would put LB>S;G simply because of Refrain being better than Kurisu route into true end.
Also note how carefully I sidestepped Clannad, Kanon and MLA.
Jokes aside, Kanon was standard early works of Key, all emotion and drama but weak thematically. Clannad was strong w/ the family theme and was an excellent adaptation of the Key formula up to that point into their new style but ultimately fell a bit short from point to point. Neither can really match up to LB in terms of how the VN wraps up, though far as individual routes go Clannad trumps LB hard.
MLA...well Sent would kill me if I bitched about it, but it is just not my thing.
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On April 30 2012 12:22 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:08 Requizen wrote:
You get a shitstorm anytime anyone says "X" is the best anime ever. Try saying LOGH, I promise no shitstorm.
Every time I see that, I try to remind myself to watch the show for once.
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On April 30 2012 12:22 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:08 Requizen wrote:
You get a shitstorm anytime anyone says "X" is the best anime ever. Try saying LOGH, I promise no shitstorm.
I'l bait w/ Banner/Crest and get Caller to support, then Kupo would join in for no reason and we'll still get shitstorm. NP
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Is it to late to come in and say that Evangelion is the best anime ever? But on a more serious note, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is definitely top tier if we had to say which is the best. I would go with that if I had to say which is the best.
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On April 30 2012 12:50 SheaR619 wrote:
Is it to late to come in and say that Evangelion is the best anime ever? But on a more serious note, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is definitely top tier if we had to say which is the best. I would go with that if I had to say which is the best.
We don't have to say it. Let everyone have their favorites, you'll never make everyone happy even if you picked something safe. And plenty of people dislike FMA:B, just visit /a/ at any given time.
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On April 30 2012 12:29 Ecael wrote:
a lulzy comparison that I'd just like to throw out, probably both Uta and I would put LB>S;G simply because of Refrain being better than Kurisu route into true end.
Mmm, perhaps when comparing the routes as a whole... I was thinking more along the lines of comparing the + Show Spoiler +plot-reset-go-back-and-fix-it moment. S;G has the entire story dedicated to explaining how it happens whereas LB is basically, oh that wasn't quite the ending you wanted? Here, try again! I mean, I still liked LB, just saying that for me at least, the concrete explanations for the plot reset and time looping in S;G made the moment more epic compared to the standard Key magic arm-waving business in LB
On April 30 2012 12:29 Ecael wrote:
Jokes aside, Kanon was standard early works of Key, all emotion and drama but weak thematically. Clannad was strong w/ the family theme and was an excellent adaptation of the Key formula up to that point into their new style but ultimately fell a bit short from point to point. Neither can really match up to LB in terms of how the VN wraps up, though far as individual routes go Clannad trumps LB hard.
MLA...well Sent would kill me if I bitched about it, but it is just not my thing.
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. I've tried to go back to the VN a few times after watching the anime, but couldn't really get back into it.
Just wondering, what did you not like about MLA?
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On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that. And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime.
That's a matter of opinion. When I mean notable I mean notable enough for ANN to have on its list of anime.
Also I can't believe if you really think /a/ effected the score that much. Look at the ratings 5 and below, even without /a/, it would be rated high. You think /a/ really contributed anything significant to the 3200 votes of 10/10?
Also if they really thought it was funny to do that, they probably all voted for Masterpiece. So even if all 3200 were /a/ users, it would still be rated highly. A BAD rating is like 5 or lower average. 8 is not bad, 7 is not bad, 6 is not bad. 6 is usually "ok" or "mediocre" or something like that.
Also, look at Code Geass season 1. It has 7000 ratings, and most of us here say that, if you just look at Code Geass season 1, it wasn't bad. I doubt /a/ voted there and made its ratings really high as well, do you?
Now if 3000 of the votes for Code Geass R2 were all from /a/, the show would still average out to be an 8 or 9, which is still a high rating. However that means that only a third of the people who watched and rated Code Geass watched and rated R2, which seems quite unlikely.
So unless if I'm missing some other bit of info or reasoning here, my claim still stands that people who think Code Geass is bad bad are the minority.
On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare?
Haha that made me laugh xD
On April 30 2012 06:36 Tabbris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship.
Well what do you mean by critical praise here? I'm just using masterpiece in the way that it is, relative to other similar works, one of the best, and/or is one of the best works of that creator. Which I think everyone should be able to agree is Goro Taniguchi's best.
If you want to use that definition in terms of "critical" praise, as in, does this show "deserve" to be praised, rather than whether people like it or not (for example, lots of people like naruto but it sucks), then Code Geass has won numerous awards. So, yes, it is still a masterpiece. Not many anime win several awards, let alone one, especially considering how many meidocre anime there are that people don't even know about cus... well, they're not notable xD
On April 30 2012 07:05 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else? Move on to something else. S2 is terrible, as is the OVA. Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like. It's like if you read Da Capo. But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot! Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. Show nested quote +Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending). What, how many mecha shows are better? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650Practically every show I mentioned is better. Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces?
Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews.
Also, Code Geass is not just a mecha anime. I did not watch it for the mecha. It balances quite a lot of different things, but the thing that made it unique was its high dramatization and style. How many shows are out there that can hit so many different audiences?
I did not note popularity as quality. I never used that, so how about you not put words into my mouth and talking like a (excuse me) smart ass? Now if I were to say, Code Geass has so many ratings compared to other shows, then you could have said that. But that's not what I said.
Naruto and Bleach, as you should know, have bad reviews, and bad ratings. Bad means like, below 6 on average.
On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining.
Hm, I heard many bad things about GC. When the show was halfway done, I checked its ratings on ANN, it was very very mixed... some were rating masterpiece, but the same number were rating 2/10, 4/10, 6/10, etc. But towards the end, its ratings got decent.
I saw the first two episodes, which were alright. They were enjoyable, but I wasn't hooked. Actually the first episode was wtf and was like a direct copy of CG's first episode, but I could actually understand what was going on in the second episode, though it still seemed like Code Geass but just smashed up and remixed though with better animation quality. I heard it gets bad in the middle, but then the MC mans up and the show gets better again.
Anyway, so if you were like me and turned off our brains and were able to enjoy it, how would you rate GC in comparison to CG? Worth the watch or not?
(Btw actually the main writer Goro Taniguchi wasn't on it, only the other guy ichiro or something.)
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On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. No. You have no soul.
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On April 30 2012 13:53 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that. And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime. That's a matter of opinion. When I mean notable I mean notable enough for ANN to have on its list of anime. Also I can't believe if you really think /a/ effected the score that much. Look at the ratings 5 and below, even without /a/, it would be rated high. You think /a/ really contributed anything significant to the 3200 votes of 10/10? Also if they really thought it was funny to do that, they probably all voted for Masterpiece. So even if all 3200 were /a/ users, it would still be rated highly. A BAD rating is like 5 or lower average. 8 is not bad, 7 is not bad, 6 is not bad. 6 is usually "ok" or "mediocre" or something like that. Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha that made me laugh xD Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 06:36 Tabbris wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship. Well what do you mean by critical praise here? I'm just using masterpiece in the way that it is, relative to other similar works, one of the best, and/or is one of the best works of that creator. Which I think everyone should be able to agree is Goro Taniguchi's best. If you want to use that definition in terms of "critical" praise, as in, does this show "deserve" to be praised, rather than whether people like it or not (for example, lots of people like naruto but it sucks), then Code Geass has won numerous awards. So, yes, it is still a masterpiece. Not many anime win several awards, let alone one, especially considering how many meidocre anime there are that people don't even know about cus... well, they're not notable xD Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 07:05 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else? Move on to something else. S2 is terrible, as is the OVA. Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like. It's like if you read Da Capo. But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot! On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending). What, how many mecha shows are better? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650Practically every show I mentioned is better. On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces? Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews. Also, Code Geass is not just a mecha anime. I did not watch it for the mecha. It balances quite a lot of different things, but the thing that made it unique was its high dramatization and style. How many shows are out there that can hit so many different audiences? I did not note popularity as quality. I never used that, so how about you not put words into my mouth and talking like a (excuse me) smart ass? Now if I were to say, Code Geass has so many ratings compared to other shows, then you could have said that. But that's not what I said. Naruto and Bleach, as you should know, have bad reviews, and bad ratings. Bad means like, below 6 on average. Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining. Hm, I heard many bad things about GC. When the show was halfway done, I checked its ratings on ANN, it was very very mixed... some were rating masterpiece, but the same number were rating 2/10, 4/10, 6/10, etc. But towards the end, its ratings got decent. I saw the first two episodes, which were alright. They were enjoyable, but I wasn't hooked. Actually the first episode was wtf and was like a direct copy of CG's first episode, but I could actually understand what was going on in the second episode, though it still seemed like Code Geass but just smashed up and remixed though with better animation quality. I heard it gets bad in the middle, but then the MC mans up and the show gets better again. Anyway, so if you were like me and turned off our brains and were able to enjoy it, how would you rate GC in comparison to CG? Worth the watch or not? (Btw actually the main writer Goro Taniguchi wasn't on it, only the other guy ichiro or something.)
GC, imo, topped CG in terms of which was the worse train wreck.
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On April 30 2012 14:12 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 13:53 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that. And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime. That's a matter of opinion. When I mean notable I mean notable enough for ANN to have on its list of anime. Also I can't believe if you really think /a/ effected the score that much. Look at the ratings 5 and below, even without /a/, it would be rated high. You think /a/ really contributed anything significant to the 3200 votes of 10/10? Also if they really thought it was funny to do that, they probably all voted for Masterpiece. So even if all 3200 were /a/ users, it would still be rated highly. A BAD rating is like 5 or lower average. 8 is not bad, 7 is not bad, 6 is not bad. 6 is usually "ok" or "mediocre" or something like that. On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha that made me laugh xD On April 30 2012 06:36 Tabbris wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship. Well what do you mean by critical praise here? I'm just using masterpiece in the way that it is, relative to other similar works, one of the best, and/or is one of the best works of that creator. Which I think everyone should be able to agree is Goro Taniguchi's best. If you want to use that definition in terms of "critical" praise, as in, does this show "deserve" to be praised, rather than whether people like it or not (for example, lots of people like naruto but it sucks), then Code Geass has won numerous awards. So, yes, it is still a masterpiece. Not many anime win several awards, let alone one, especially considering how many meidocre anime there are that people don't even know about cus... well, they're not notable xD On April 30 2012 07:05 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else? Move on to something else. S2 is terrible, as is the OVA. Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like. It's like if you read Da Capo. But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot! On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending). What, how many mecha shows are better? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650Practically every show I mentioned is better. On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces? Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews. Also, Code Geass is not just a mecha anime. I did not watch it for the mecha. It balances quite a lot of different things, but the thing that made it unique was its high dramatization and style. How many shows are out there that can hit so many different audiences? I did not note popularity as quality. I never used that, so how about you not put words into my mouth and talking like a (excuse me) smart ass? Now if I were to say, Code Geass has so many ratings compared to other shows, then you could have said that. But that's not what I said. Naruto and Bleach, as you should know, have bad reviews, and bad ratings. Bad means like, below 6 on average. On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining. Hm, I heard many bad things about GC. When the show was halfway done, I checked its ratings on ANN, it was very very mixed... some were rating masterpiece, but the same number were rating 2/10, 4/10, 6/10, etc. But towards the end, its ratings got decent. I saw the first two episodes, which were alright. They were enjoyable, but I wasn't hooked. Actually the first episode was wtf and was like a direct copy of CG's first episode, but I could actually understand what was going on in the second episode, though it still seemed like Code Geass but just smashed up and remixed though with better animation quality. I heard it gets bad in the middle, but then the MC mans up and the show gets better again. Anyway, so if you were like me and turned off our brains and were able to enjoy it, how would you rate GC in comparison to CG? Worth the watch or not? (Btw actually the main writer Goro Taniguchi wasn't on it, only the other guy ichiro or something.) GC, imo, topped CG in terms of which was the worse train wreck.
I though that it was pretty unaminous that Code Geass was better than Guilty Crown by far. Is this even debatable?
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On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. No. You have no soul.
I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D
I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc.
On April 30 2012 14:16 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 14:12 Nagisama wrote:On April 30 2012 13:53 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 06:38 Kaal wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that. And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime. That's a matter of opinion. When I mean notable I mean notable enough for ANN to have on its list of anime. Also I can't believe if you really think /a/ effected the score that much. Look at the ratings 5 and below, even without /a/, it would be rated high. You think /a/ really contributed anything significant to the 3200 votes of 10/10? Also if they really thought it was funny to do that, they probably all voted for Masterpiece. So even if all 3200 were /a/ users, it would still be rated highly. A BAD rating is like 5 or lower average. 8 is not bad, 7 is not bad, 6 is not bad. 6 is usually "ok" or "mediocre" or something like that. On April 30 2012 07:00 solidbebe wrote:On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece Are you trying to turn this into nuclear warfare? Haha that made me laugh xD On April 30 2012 06:36 Tabbris wrote:On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship. Well what do you mean by critical praise here? I'm just using masterpiece in the way that it is, relative to other similar works, one of the best, and/or is one of the best works of that creator. Which I think everyone should be able to agree is Goro Taniguchi's best. If you want to use that definition in terms of "critical" praise, as in, does this show "deserve" to be praised, rather than whether people like it or not (for example, lots of people like naruto but it sucks), then Code Geass has won numerous awards. So, yes, it is still a masterpiece. Not many anime win several awards, let alone one, especially considering how many meidocre anime there are that people don't even know about cus... well, they're not notable xD On April 30 2012 07:05 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2012 00:37 Kaal wrote:On April 29 2012 21:50 FreudianTrip wrote:
Let me prefix this with the fact that I'm not a huge anime guy, I just watch the main ones (Champloo, Trigun, Bebop etc.)
So after consulting the reccomendation image I watched Darker Than Black, started off thinking it was awful but it got pretty good towards the end.
I've finished the first series and I notice there seems to be a season 1.5 and 2. Is it worth watching either of these? I kind of feel like I've experienced the arc of the story and don't really know where it can go that's any good. Just Hei being chased for 23 episodes doesn't seem very exciting.
Should I bother with it or just move on to something else? Move on to something else. S2 is terrible, as is the OVA. Sent, why the fuck did you start reading hoshizora. That's like the exact opposite of anything you'd ever like. It's like if you read Da Capo. But! But! Those blonde chicks! Really hot! On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.
I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons. But that is wrong, laughably horribly wrong. Have you never read what people who love Code Geass say about the show??? The praise it for EXACTLY those reasons. >brilliant tactics from brilliant military mastermind Stopped reading there. Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending). What, how many mecha shows are better? http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=234486http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650Practically every show I mentioned is better. On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.
So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority. Popularity is not an indication of quality, please stop using that argument. Or are you going to start telling me Naruto and Bleach are masterpieces? Well I'd have to disagree, and the majority of viewers do as well, according to many anime websites and reviews. Also, Code Geass is not just a mecha anime. I did not watch it for the mecha. It balances quite a lot of different things, but the thing that made it unique was its high dramatization and style. How many shows are out there that can hit so many different audiences? I did not note popularity as quality. I never used that, so how about you not put words into my mouth and talking like a (excuse me) smart ass? Now if I were to say, Code Geass has so many ratings compared to other shows, then you could have said that. But that's not what I said. Naruto and Bleach, as you should know, have bad reviews, and bad ratings. Bad means like, below 6 on average. On April 30 2012 08:18 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Code Geass is basically an anime where you turn off your brain and enjoy everything, because if you actually thought about it, all you'd think about is how bad most of the characters are and how nonsensical the plot is (hey look, 19th century battle tactics with robots! \o/ )
This is why everyone thought Guilty Crown was garbage. It's because they forgot that when you have Code Geass writers, the best way to enjoy is to just not think about it. If you threw all of that away, it was actually pretty entertaining. Hm, I heard many bad things about GC. When the show was halfway done, I checked its ratings on ANN, it was very very mixed... some were rating masterpiece, but the same number were rating 2/10, 4/10, 6/10, etc. But towards the end, its ratings got decent. I saw the first two episodes, which were alright. They were enjoyable, but I wasn't hooked. Actually the first episode was wtf and was like a direct copy of CG's first episode, but I could actually understand what was going on in the second episode, though it still seemed like Code Geass but just smashed up and remixed though with better animation quality. I heard it gets bad in the middle, but then the MC mans up and the show gets better again. Anyway, so if you were like me and turned off our brains and were able to enjoy it, how would you rate GC in comparison to CG? Worth the watch or not? (Btw actually the main writer Goro Taniguchi wasn't on it, only the other guy ichiro or something.) GC, imo, topped CG in terms of which was the worse train wreck. I though that it was pretty unaminous that Code Geass was better than Guilty Crown by far. Is this even debatable?
Well he said worse train wreck, I'm guessing even more of a train wreck and, hence, worse than CG, rather than meaning it was less of a train wreck and thus, better than CG.
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On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. No. You have no soul. I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc. In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime. 
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On April 30 2012 14:29 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 14:16 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:On April 30 2012 14:10 Elem wrote:On April 30 2012 12:53 Dullahan wrote:
Very much agreed about Clannad, I think one of the big reasons I liked the anime so much was how well they managed to incorporate all the different routes. No. You have no soul. I didn't play the VN, and I heard a lot was left out (how much exactly? probably not too much, or were the different routes actually fleshed out that far past just dating?) but it's nice to hear that :D I tried to watch Kanon (watched like 13 episodes or so on request of friend, claiming it was great) but I got bored... the arcs weren't smooth, but in Clannad they did a good job focusing on each arc while also developing the other characters and plot etc. In all seriousness, when you've both watched the anime and read the VN it feels like that your feelings about the anime depends on which characters you liked in the VN. I for one really disliked Nagisa so the anime ends up really meh to me, especially as my fave heroine (Kotomi) has her route violently raped and then fed to the dogs, with no chance of being saved. I feel like I'm the only person that really liked Kotomi though, lol. Just get a lot of hate from people when I mention her, especially from people who only watched the anime.
Wait whoa whoa that is seriously what happens in the kotomi route? i didn't know a romance/drama could be so... cruel? or is that just one of her endings?
Also, I also didn't like Nagisa that much, though I didn't play the VN. In the anime I liked tomoyo the most, so I was quite disappointed to see no "arc" for her. How much of the game, would you say, is Nagisa compared to each of the other heroines?
I, having only watched the anime, will say that I liked Kotomi too ^^. Sunohara was the best though ! kekek
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