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Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#40781
On April 30 2012 04:54 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:30 Maxie wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:28 solidbebe wrote:
Oh god clannad is becoming school days all over again. Inb4 he gets shot.


Dafuq?

What the hell are you watching?


The purple haired girls + nagisa + the gray haired girl all throwing nasty looks at each other,


I don't think you can quite compare their situation with School Days, it's closer to the completely harmless harems out there, lol. Except it's even more harmless...
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#40782
Last I watch......Clannad was harem lvl is no where near School Days harem lvl
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
April 29 2012 20:12 GMT
#40783
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.

I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
April 29 2012 20:16 GMT
#40784
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? .

yes, yes we do. watching anime intellectually is the only way to watch anime
the courage to be a lazy bum
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 29 2012 20:18 GMT
#40785
On April 30 2012 05:00 SheaR619 wrote:
Last I watch......Clannad was harem lvl is no where near School Days harem lvl


Yeah I know, the jealous moments just kinda reminded me of school days.

Also I really want to watch code Geass now mcimba42. That's next on the list, thx!
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
April 29 2012 20:27 GMT
#40786

I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot.


Please don't group us with Blasterion.

Most people who shit on code geass do NOT in fact enjoy generic moe moe shows.

We hate them.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 29 2012 20:41 GMT
#40787
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.

I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons.

But i dont enjoy moe... I like animes with plot ^^
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:47:06
April 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#40788
I though Code Geass was pretty good and I am one of the few that defends code geass in this thread.The beginning was awesome and the ending was great too but how they got the that ending with the last 10-15 episode is kinda meh. Overall still pretty good.

I personally have a deep hatred for K-On and Shana because I think they dont deserve the recognition they have at all because they are poop but that just me.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
April 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#40789
On April 30 2012 05:46 SheaR619 wrote:
I though Code Geass was pretty good and I am one of the few that defends code geass in this thread.The beginning was awesome and the ending was great too but how they got the that ending with the last 10-15 episode is kinda meh. Overall still pretty good.

I personally have a deep hatred for K-On and Shana because I think they dont deserve the recognition they have at all because they are poop but that just me.


I guess there is just something enthralling about a group of girls mucking about doing absolutely nothing.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
April 29 2012 20:52 GMT
#40790
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters.

Actually, many people have argued this. Someone thinking CG is a masterpiece is nothing new.

Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch.

so you're agreeing it was a trainwreck? Don't see how you can argue a show is good AND a trainwreck. It was entertaining because it was a trainwreck but it sure wasn't good. also, what does "self respecting trainwreck" even mean?
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:00:20
April 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#40791
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think I've ever posted in this thread but I occasionally lurk around for a couple of pages and I happened to see the Code Geass discussion above, and I think there are a lot of people who just try to take that show way more seriously than they should.

I see people here watching and enjoying those generic moe moe "cute girls doing cute things" shows that air every season, but then they claim Code Geass is awful for having a bunch of plot holes and a generally pants on head retarded plot. But is that all there is to anime? Do you really watch cartoons for the amazing literary value they're well known to have? I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters. I personally enjoyed it because of stuff like the brilliant military tactics from the brilliant military mastermind that is Lelouch (such as baiting people onto a bridge and making it collapse, baiting people into a building and making it collapse, or baiting people onto a bridge and making a building collapse on top of it), all of the fabulous and the borderline homo, the pretty mechas, the jumbled mess it called plot (like going through the "sword of akasha" and into the "world of c", where he met his deceased mother and did something to God, thus choosing the future instead of the past), the ridiculous chess metaphors (complete with illegal chess moves), the "Haha, I just predicted every word you would have said in a 20 minute long conversation and prepared a video of me replying perfectly with 100% exact timing to fool you. For the second time!", the "who is this guy, hasn't he died twice alrea--LOYALTY!!", the completely bullshit cliffhangers every other episode, the YAMATO DAMASHII NIHON BANZAI, etc, etc. It doesn't deserve any awards, not is it revolutionary (or even good, in terms of "objective" quality), but I found it really fucking enjoyable to watch. Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch. It's definitely no masterpiece (in fact, I'd love to try whatever the guy who said that has been smoking recently), but I found it a hell of a lot more entertaining and enjoyable than anything in these last couple of seasons.


Hurray, someone else who loves it the way I do :D. ALL HAIL LELOUCH. The parts like with the timed video, I found, were epic. Yes, I was like... uh really? But I mean, Lelouch is supposed to be a genius, so I can get past that. After all he's doing it to his brother, perhaps his brother always talks in a certain way or such. Anyways, it's just awesome to see the result. Maybe Lelouch even had a back up plan if the timing was too off. For example in 2nd time he did it, he was already on his ship. Maybe his brother didn't have a gun anyways, etc. etc. I guess my point is that they only show what is necessary. For those who have a hard time believing it, you can think up other ideas next time to try to not have it bother you as much. It works for me at least.


On April 30 2012 05:52 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters.

Actually, many people have argued this. Someone thinking CG is a masterpiece is nothing new.

Show nested quote +
Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch.

so you're agreeing it was a trainwreck? Don't see how you can argue a show is good AND a trainwreck. It was entertaining because it was a trainwreck but it sure wasn't good. also, what does "self respecting trainwreck" even mean?



Well it is a masterpiece, relatively. How many anime can you name that are better than Code Geass in its genre, or what it does? (Extremely stylistic anime hitting a bunch of audiences with a unique ending).

He means it is a trainwreck objectively, but he still liked it. Self respecting trainwreck -- he probably means that it was obvious the writer knew that he wasn't explaining certain parts correctly or leaving plot holes, due to the bombastic nature of the show and of Lelouch. So if you can think of it that way, you can enjoy the epicness of it.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:07:38
April 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#40792
On April 30 2012 05:52 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:12 mcimba42 wrote:
I don't think anyone will say they liked Geass because of the deep psychological themes, or the intricate plot, or the interesting and well developed characters.

Actually, many people have argued this. Someone thinking CG is a masterpiece is nothing new.
Jesus, I'm not very familiar with this thread, but do we get those guys over here?

On April 30 2012 05:52 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sure, it was a trainwreck, but as any self respecting trainwreck, it's bloody entertaining to watch.

so you're agreeing it was a trainwreck? Don't see how you can argue a show is good AND a trainwreck. It was entertaining because it was a trainwreck but it sure wasn't good. also, what does "self respecting trainwreck" even mean?
Notice that I never said Geass was good, just enjoyable. In fact, I said I had a hard time calling it "good" at all. That was pretty much the whole point.

Also, I was joking when I said "self respecting trainwreck", as trainwrecks cannot feel respect. The rest of my post didn't have a very serious tone either, you know. (I was also joking when I said that making the ground collapse is a brilliant military tactic, in case that one went over your head)
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
April 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#40793
I was going to start defending CG, but then other people did, so I decided not too...

Code Geass #1!
Glad that other people like CG too!
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
April 29 2012 21:07 GMT
#40794
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.

So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 29 2012 21:21 GMT
#40795
I really liked Code Geass, but it does have it's flaws (mainly second half of season 2, I really liked the ending but the way they got there went by too fast with too much going on), and not everyone enjoys the "ridiculously genius main character", or mecha.

I do however, so that I liked Code Geass was certainly not weird...


SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
April 29 2012 21:35 GMT
#40796
Code Geasses just needed some more Kallen fan service and it would be considered a master piece imo
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 29 2012 21:36 GMT
#40797
On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.

So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.

Masterpiece (or chef d'œuvre) in modern usage refers to a creation that has been given much critical praise, especially one that is considered the greatest work of a person's career or to a work of outstanding creativity, skill or workmanship.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
April 29 2012 21:37 GMT
#40798
Naruto is a masterpiece
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
April 29 2012 21:38 GMT
#40799
On April 30 2012 06:07 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I think the main thing that disappoints me of people not liking Code Geass as much as me is not that they don't like it, but that they seem SO surprised that people like me like it so much.
The majority of its viewers thought it was a master piece, or close to it. Just check its ratings on anime sites, it has one of the highest ratings in all 3500+ or so notable anime works out there.

So really, the people who don't think it's good or didn't like it much are in the minority.


The reason CG R2 is rated so high on MAL and lots of other anime sites is because /a/ thought it would be funny to do that.

And there's definately not 3500+ notable anime.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#40800
On April 30 2012 06:37 Tabbris wrote:
Naruto is a masterpiece

OVER THE LINE


Anyway, I can't really give much to the discussion, having not seen CG through, but I can almost guarantee you there are worse shows out there as it is. There's no such thing as a "perfect show", period, but they can have their strengths and weaknesses.
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