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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
April 26 2012 19:38 GMT
#40661
On April 26 2012 07:57 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2012 07:26 Naphal wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah ep3 was quite disappointing. The first two episodes were pretty awesome, Koko was epic. This episode feels so weird. The plot doesn't make much logical sense. I hope they improve. Up till ep2, this was my favorite new anime of the season, I hope it remains that way and not become a trainwreck like GC.
=Þ
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
April 26 2012 21:11 GMT
#40662
+ Show Spoiler [Natsuiro kiseki 4] +
This ep was epic. Body swap plot is overused but it was made perfectly in this ep.

We can count on yuka to make thing interesting, i realy love her personality.

Anyway glad the yuri seem to be winning ! next ep moar YukaXRin *_*
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
April 26 2012 21:32 GMT
#40663
On April 27 2012 01:52 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 00:30 Maxtor wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:30 Nagisama wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:16 Ecael wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:05 Nagisama wrote:
On April 26 2012 12:52 Maxtor wrote:
I've watched several episodes of "Papa no lu Koto o Kikinasai!" and i'd love for someone to explain some of these things cause im pretty confused about it, im only up to episode 10 but its just bugging me so much: + Show Spoiler +
1, Why do they have no money, i mean his sister and their (the girls) father must have had savings or insurance, they even left the house, i mean they could sell or rent that, its clearly an asset that would transfer to the next of kin, or be held on trust until they are of age to sell it.2,Why did the relatives not chip in to help him take care of the girls, if they wished to stop him from taking them or teach him a lesson about the difficulty of taking care of them they could have just not allowed him to be a guardian in the first place? The other thing is, does it get a bit cheerier, cause my god its depressing, i would have never guessed by the intro.

Plot device maybe? + Show Spoiler +
He probably has no money because he snuck all 3 girls out of the house after the family discussion part and just ditched the rest of the family. The other relatives might not even have his contact information save for the Aunt. And she does come around to help him out around episodes 8-10ish, or maybe earlier. She probably gave them his contact info later on though.

IIRC, the house went to the father's next of kin, one of the Uncles I believe, which Yuuta has no blood relation to. In fact, save for the Hina, his sister, and maybe the Aunt, Yuuta has no blood relation with any of them. Since you're near the end, I don't think it'll be getting any more cheerful, since it's reaching the climax/final problem etc etc.

Partly plot device.

+ Show Spoiler +
1 even in the case where the ownership of the house is put in a trust, the trio would still not be allowed to live on their own. As the objective is for the 3 to stay together and the closest paternal relatives are unwilling to take the girls into their own house, they would be put in an institution and possibly separated w/ whatever assets and insurance money given to them afterwards. All this is resolved by end of series/vol 1 though. Also, he was already in trust of the life insurance money for the 3, he simply resolved to use as little of those as possible for normal expenses because they are to go toward schooling and the girls themselves in the future.

2 MC went against wish of the family in taking them in rather than sending them to institution, amounting to kidnapping really. You think he can just walk up to them and say that he wants $ when he has little ground legally to do so? It isn't so much teaching him a lesson or anything, it is that other than institution, he is the only adult there for them to turn to given no one else would take them into their house, but he did so against the will of the majority. Kinda hard to ask for help like that. The other relatives didn't take actions against him more actively because it is a good temporary solution to transition into whatever more permanent answers to the issue that there are. + Show Spoiler [end of series] +
House is to go to MC, I forgot whether it was a part of the sister's will or some other random plot device, but iirc he was always the one that the estate was to go to


3, what do you think.

+ Show Spoiler [end of series] +
I think at the end of the series, the Uncle signs the deed over to Yuuta in the credits. I believe it was stated in the middle of the series when they went back to visit once, that it was the Uncle who owns the house now.


The fact that the + Show Spoiler +
House goes to the uncle doesn't make any sense, it would go to the children and be held on trust by either a guardian or a lawyer, only if he didn't have surviving children would it go to a brother. He really didn't kidnap them either, as the 10 and 14 year old don't have a legal guardian after the death of their parents, So custody would probably be determined by a court if there was a dispute as to who would look after them, as MC has as much right to keep them as an institution, as if they were put there he could just legally adopt them.
Am I just over thinking a bad plot device?

You are overthinking on something that shouldn't be thought about so hard. But you have annoyed me enough that I am going to check the LNs, good job

+ Show Spoiler +
Custody in Japan and what you are used can probably work very differently, but that said, MC can probably adopt them when it comes to it. But what will that do for the MC? He is the one with the money from the life insurance policy of the sister. So he goes against the wish of the majority of the family, takes the insurance money, and still ask the remaining relatives for money? I don't know about you, but if I were the paternal relatives I'd beat the shit out of him, whatever his reasons. The issue on adoption isn't exactly a good case for the MC either way should he go to court, as 2/3 of the girls aren't blood related to his sister, on top of that, he is still a college student. Without the consent of the paternal side of the family, the fight for their guardianship wouldn't be exactly easy.

Ok, so I checked through the LN. The MC didn't really think about the legal side of things. The house is assumed to be under the children's name but being taken care of by the paternal side of the family (this is around the time when the 3 first moved in), in the end we find out that the house is indeed under Sora's name, what the family and the aunt did was to do the paperwork and stuff for them. The anime scene at the end is just the papers and such being given to them formally. The money that he got from the aunt during the middle of the series is the portion of his sister's life insurance that is to go to him, the rest for the 3 sisters were being handled in trust by the paternal family. Though those too, along w/ state aids and such all end up going to the MC by the work of the aunt at the end, since he is accepted as the legal guardian.


In the end I think that it is part plot device, part you overthinking and taking the law too easily when it comes to family court. At the very least, in the case of the States, these kinds of cases, should both party wish to pursue them, can go on for years. The MC has a pretty decent claim to things, just not good enough to end it as decisively as you are imagining.

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 01:46 Nagisama wrote:
On April 27 2012 00:30 Maxtor wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:30 Nagisama wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:16 Ecael wrote:
On April 26 2012 13:05 Nagisama wrote:
On April 26 2012 12:52 Maxtor wrote:
I've watched several episodes of "Papa no lu Koto o Kikinasai!" and i'd love for someone to explain some of these things cause im pretty confused about it, im only up to episode 10 but its just bugging me so much: + Show Spoiler +
1, Why do they have no money, i mean his sister and their (the girls) father must have had savings or insurance, they even left the house, i mean they could sell or rent that, its clearly an asset that would transfer to the next of kin, or be held on trust until they are of age to sell it.2,Why did the relatives not chip in to help him take care of the girls, if they wished to stop him from taking them or teach him a lesson about the difficulty of taking care of them they could have just not allowed him to be a guardian in the first place? The other thing is, does it get a bit cheerier, cause my god its depressing, i would have never guessed by the intro.

Plot device maybe? + Show Spoiler +
He probably has no money because he snuck all 3 girls out of the house after the family discussion part and just ditched the rest of the family. The other relatives might not even have his contact information save for the Aunt. And she does come around to help him out around episodes 8-10ish, or maybe earlier. She probably gave them his contact info later on though.

IIRC, the house went to the father's next of kin, one of the Uncles I believe, which Yuuta has no blood relation to. In fact, save for the Hina, his sister, and maybe the Aunt, Yuuta has no blood relation with any of them. Since you're near the end, I don't think it'll be getting any more cheerful, since it's reaching the climax/final problem etc etc.

Partly plot device.

+ Show Spoiler +
1 even in the case where the ownership of the house is put in a trust, the trio would still not be allowed to live on their own. As the objective is for the 3 to stay together and the closest paternal relatives are unwilling to take the girls into their own house, they would be put in an institution and possibly separated w/ whatever assets and insurance money given to them afterwards. All this is resolved by end of series/vol 1 though. Also, he was already in trust of the life insurance money for the 3, he simply resolved to use as little of those as possible for normal expenses because they are to go toward schooling and the girls themselves in the future.

2 MC went against wish of the family in taking them in rather than sending them to institution, amounting to kidnapping really. You think he can just walk up to them and say that he wants $ when he has little ground legally to do so? It isn't so much teaching him a lesson or anything, it is that other than institution, he is the only adult there for them to turn to given no one else would take them into their house, but he did so against the will of the majority. Kinda hard to ask for help like that. The other relatives didn't take actions against him more actively because it is a good temporary solution to transition into whatever more permanent answers to the issue that there are. + Show Spoiler [end of series] +
House is to go to MC, I forgot whether it was a part of the sister's will or some other random plot device, but iirc he was always the one that the estate was to go to


3, what do you think.

+ Show Spoiler [end of series] +
I think at the end of the series, the Uncle signs the deed over to Yuuta in the credits. I believe it was stated in the middle of the series when they went back to visit once, that it was the Uncle who owns the house now.


The fact that the + Show Spoiler +
House goes to the uncle doesn't make any sense, it would go to the children and be held on trust by either a guardian or a lawyer, only if he didn't have surviving children would it go to a brother. He really didn't kidnap them either, as the 10 and 14 year old don't have a legal guardian after the death of their parents, So custody would probably be determined by a court if there was a dispute as to who would look after them, as MC has as much right to keep them as an institution, as if they were put there he could just legally adopt them.
Am I just over thinking a bad plot device?


+ Show Spoiler +
While it may not have been exactly kidnapping, it was pretty close to it. He left with the 3 girls without any notice to the family members. If Yuuta tried to fight for custody in court, there was no way he would've won mainly due to financial reasons. I don't recall any specific details regarding ownership of the house in the anime except that it's the uncle taking care of it. It could be that the house went to the uncle because it couldn't be given to the girls (for 1. Their age, 2. Again, they left without notice) so they couldn't exactly stick around and do w/e administrative stuff is required to get the house.

Also, I don't think the girls were necessarily going to end up in an orphanage or institution. They were just going to be adopted by the relatives, but separated, since no single relative could take them all in together. It does feel like you're over thinking it a bit much haha. I was more surprised at how he was even able to survive/support 3 girls + himself off a few part time jobs while studying university full time.

+ Show Spoiler +
They could fight for the house, it just won't necessarily go to the MC. The house is under Sora's name after the death of the parents, but being underage she can't do anything with it. So it then becomes a battle of words between the MC, children and the paternal side of the family if they want to stick around in that house. Not only does it make an already tense situation worse, it also gives the paternal family excuses to pursue further action given how MC isn't their guardian and can't possibly be named their guardian in anything left by the parents (should there have been any)

Original scenario was separate adoption, aunt offered for one institution to take all 3 and keep them together at the middle of the series.


Thanks very much! I just have that over thinking problem in anime thats set in real life (ish), with anything else i throw my logic out of the window, but here + Show Spoiler +
most of it is centred around MC having no money and being over worked while being totally selfless to the notion of family.
I'll avoid real life setting for now xD
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-26 23:08:19
April 26 2012 23:06 GMT
#40664
On April 27 2012 02:58 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 02:04 Sentenal wrote:
I made a compilation hype video of the main players of Team Courageous Nuclear Space Destroyer Class Beings of the Extra Terrestrial origin which is Adversary of human race. It is superior to echo's and gaoxi's!!!!



Players:
prophecy_ (00:16-04:42) (ech0ne)
Sentenal (04:43-09:34)
shuruken (09:35-13:24) (gaoxi)
nagisama (13:25-19:49)
SniperTerran (19:50-22:42)
RavelynP (22:43-26:34)

So sick!! LOL at the choice of music for Gao and sniperterran.


That strong FD was me in sprit though
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
April 26 2012 23:25 GMT
#40665
tsuritama has such an awesome obaa-san. she reminds me of that one from summer wars
+ Show Spoiler +
too bad shes gonna end up like her too ;_;
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
April 26 2012 23:26 GMT
#40666
+ Show Spoiler [Kore wa Zombie 04] +
OMG this episode was so hilarious. Just going down the row of girls. I shoulda figured that Eu was gonna be 4th, but I was still surprised, haha.

Oh and Seraphim baby, sooo hot... Plz more Sera-service, arigatou gozaimashita!
Skol
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 27 2012 00:16 GMT
#40667
On April 27 2012 08:26 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Kore wa Zombie 04] +
OMG this episode was so hilarious. Just going down the row of girls. I shoulda figured that Eu was gonna be 4th, but I was still surprised, haha.

Oh and Seraphim baby, sooo hot... Plz more Sera-service, arigatou gozaimashita!


+ Show Spoiler [Kore wa Zombie - 4] +
This episode was absolutely hilarious, haha. Eu is still more kawaii than everybody else, but Yuki is an awesome character.

Also, I laughed for like 2 minutes when I saw this:

[image loading]
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 27 2012 03:32 GMT
#40668
Shameless self-plug:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 27 2012 03:43 GMT
#40669
On April 27 2012 12:32 Sentenal wrote:
Shameless self-plug:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650



Nice, I enjoyed it, great read.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 27 2012 03:55 GMT
#40670
Speaking of Gundam
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
April 27 2012 06:31 GMT
#40671
Heres another one, since wala said the first one didnt have enough skill in it
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
April 27 2012 06:44 GMT
#40672
sakamichi is so beautiful...
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
April 27 2012 07:05 GMT
#40673
thursdays are fucking awesome. best day of the week
jaedong the man with the huge dong
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 09:17:55
April 27 2012 09:17 GMT
#40674
yes it is, Thursday is the best.

Can't wait for the next Moretsu pirates. So close to the yuri and cliffhanger scene
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
April 27 2012 09:34 GMT
#40675
On April 27 2012 18:17 iky43210 wrote:
yes it is, Thursday is the best.

Can't wait for the next Moretsu pirates. So close to the yuri and cliffhanger scene



...I need to catch up with that anime.
CrAzzYmr.BC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States165 Posts
April 27 2012 13:41 GMT
#40676
On April 27 2012 12:55 Sentenal wrote:
Speaking of Gundam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLK9_Bxch7k



Unicorn... Undeniably the prettiest looking and best anime I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#40677
Speaking of Gundam...

My old man really liked TTGL, but he wants to watch a less silly robot show, so I immediately thought of Gundam. Which do you think is best to show him first? I like the first few series, but the art is a bit dated, so I want something a bit more modern. Wing was my first, and is still pretty good, but maybe one of the newer ones? I wasn't a huge Seed fan, but at least it was pretty.
It's your boy Guzma!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
April 27 2012 16:37 GMT
#40678
On April 28 2012 00:47 Requizen wrote:
Speaking of Gundam...

My old man really liked TTGL, but he wants to watch a less silly robot show, so I immediately thought of Gundam. Which do you think is best to show him first? I like the first few series, but the art is a bit dated, so I want something a bit more modern. Wing was my first, and is still pretty good, but maybe one of the newer ones? I wasn't a huge Seed fan, but at least it was pretty.

Why not read sent's guide to gundam, he JUST wrote it...
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 27 2012 17:05 GMT
#40679
On April 28 2012 01:37 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 00:47 Requizen wrote:
Speaking of Gundam...

My old man really liked TTGL, but he wants to watch a less silly robot show, so I immediately thought of Gundam. Which do you think is best to show him first? I like the first few series, but the art is a bit dated, so I want something a bit more modern. Wing was my first, and is still pretty good, but maybe one of the newer ones? I wasn't a huge Seed fan, but at least it was pretty.

Why not read sent's guide to gundam, he JUST wrote it...
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650

Yeah, I saw it. I'm not sure, I kind of still want to start with Wing. I know it's not the best, maybe a B- as far as Gundam goes, but I think if we do MSG or Zeta, the dated visuals will be a turn off for someone newer who's not really a "connoisseur" of anime. I still think Seed is way too melodramatic, but that's probably just my opinion.
It's your boy Guzma!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 27 2012 17:21 GMT
#40680
On April 28 2012 02:05 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 01:37 Nagisama wrote:
On April 28 2012 00:47 Requizen wrote:
Speaking of Gundam...

My old man really liked TTGL, but he wants to watch a less silly robot show, so I immediately thought of Gundam. Which do you think is best to show him first? I like the first few series, but the art is a bit dated, so I want something a bit more modern. Wing was my first, and is still pretty good, but maybe one of the newer ones? I wasn't a huge Seed fan, but at least it was pretty.

Why not read sent's guide to gundam, he JUST wrote it...
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=332650

Yeah, I saw it. I'm not sure, I kind of still want to start with Wing. I know it's not the best, maybe a B- as far as Gundam goes, but I think if we do MSG or Zeta, the dated visuals will be a turn off for someone newer who's not really a "connoisseur" of anime. I still think Seed is way too melodramatic, but that's probably just my opinion.

If his first exposures to animation were anytime before 2000 I doubt Zeta's animation will bother him.

I feel like many Gundam shows (and anime in general) have a touch of the melodramatic and that's not necessarily bad.
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