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On June 29 2014 20:17 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 05:43 Hyperbola wrote:
Who has slept with more guys, Nami or Robin? Both are known to have tricked and manipulated men in the past. I'm leaning more towards Robin because she's older and has gone from one strong man to another. Although, Nami isn't to be underestimated as her sense of "fashion" is wearing a bikini and going comando. Robin should be the one. She is older and should have slept with men in earlier stages of her life to trick them or get to their good side since she was hunted early on. I don't have any doubt that nami did also. She seemed too tricky to not to. Idk why you are asking this though.
He probably has a dirty mind and wants to use those thoughts for something.
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On June 29 2014 18:23 squeezegats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 17:15 Forikorder wrote:On June 29 2014 17:05 squeezegats wrote:
i read speculation that Blackbeard will fight shanks and maybe kill him, mihawk will come to his defense and fight shillew and whoever wins will become zoros final boss. I can almost believe it because right now mihawk and zoro are on good terms, when and why would they fight? literally the only reason Zoro went to sea is to take down mihawk and you want to know the why? the when will be whenever Zoro feels ready and meets him in a suitable place Thats not true. At first Zoro went with luffy because he owed him his life. He had promised Kuina to become the strongest sworldsman in the world and that is Zoros goal. To become the strongest swordsman you defeat the current champion, so if someone like Shillew defeats Mihawk, Zoro will have to beat Shillew. Its nothing personal against mihawk, Zoro is not out on a vengeance quest against him, he just wants the title. If Miihawk lost the title to someone by being defeated yet somehow survived, Zoro would probably gain a peaceful relationship with Mihawk because he trained him and now he doesnt have to kill him in order to fulfill his goal and keep his promise to kuina and luffy.
Zoro wouldnt owe luffy his life if he want on a quest to become the best, hed still be at his hometown
and zoro never had to kill Mihawk, he only had to beat him regardless of wether mihawk survived his goal is the same to be a better swordsman thats all that matters he never had to kill mihawk to obtain that goal
the odds of one of them dieing in the process of deciding whos better is high
and remember Zoro said at the start that he only took mihawks training to surpass him and mihawk took him up on that i dont think there relationship is nearly as rosy as you seem to think
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On June 29 2014 23:11 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 18:23 squeezegats wrote:On June 29 2014 17:15 Forikorder wrote:On June 29 2014 17:05 squeezegats wrote:
i read speculation that Blackbeard will fight shanks and maybe kill him, mihawk will come to his defense and fight shillew and whoever wins will become zoros final boss. I can almost believe it because right now mihawk and zoro are on good terms, when and why would they fight? literally the only reason Zoro went to sea is to take down mihawk and you want to know the why? the when will be whenever Zoro feels ready and meets him in a suitable place Thats not true. At first Zoro went with luffy because he owed him his life. He had promised Kuina to become the strongest sworldsman in the world and that is Zoros goal. To become the strongest swordsman you defeat the current champion, so if someone like Shillew defeats Mihawk, Zoro will have to beat Shillew. Its nothing personal against mihawk, Zoro is not out on a vengeance quest against him, he just wants the title. If Miihawk lost the title to someone by being defeated yet somehow survived, Zoro would probably gain a peaceful relationship with Mihawk because he trained him and now he doesnt have to kill him in order to fulfill his goal and keep his promise to kuina and luffy. Zoro wouldnt owe luffy his life if he want on a quest to become the best, hed still be at his hometown and zoro never had to kill Mihawk, he only had to beat him regardless of wether mihawk survived his goal is the same to be a better swordsman thats all that matters he never had to kill mihawk to obtain that goal the odds of one of them dieing in the process of deciding whos better is high and remember Zoro said at the start that he only took mihawks training to surpass him and mihawk took him up on that i dont think there relationship is nearly as rosy as you seem to think
Rosy? did you completley miss my point?
Zoros goal has always been to become the strongest swordsman in the world. If someone like Shillew surpasses Mihawk and beats him, Zoro will have to beat Shillew to reach his goal.
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On June 30 2014 01:36 squeezegats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 23:11 Forikorder wrote:On June 29 2014 18:23 squeezegats wrote:On June 29 2014 17:15 Forikorder wrote:On June 29 2014 17:05 squeezegats wrote:
i read speculation that Blackbeard will fight shanks and maybe kill him, mihawk will come to his defense and fight shillew and whoever wins will become zoros final boss. I can almost believe it because right now mihawk and zoro are on good terms, when and why would they fight? literally the only reason Zoro went to sea is to take down mihawk and you want to know the why? the when will be whenever Zoro feels ready and meets him in a suitable place Thats not true. At first Zoro went with luffy because he owed him his life. He had promised Kuina to become the strongest sworldsman in the world and that is Zoros goal. To become the strongest swordsman you defeat the current champion, so if someone like Shillew defeats Mihawk, Zoro will have to beat Shillew. Its nothing personal against mihawk, Zoro is not out on a vengeance quest against him, he just wants the title. If Miihawk lost the title to someone by being defeated yet somehow survived, Zoro would probably gain a peaceful relationship with Mihawk because he trained him and now he doesnt have to kill him in order to fulfill his goal and keep his promise to kuina and luffy. Zoro wouldnt owe luffy his life if he want on a quest to become the best, hed still be at his hometown and zoro never had to kill Mihawk, he only had to beat him regardless of wether mihawk survived his goal is the same to be a better swordsman thats all that matters he never had to kill mihawk to obtain that goal the odds of one of them dieing in the process of deciding whos better is high and remember Zoro said at the start that he only took mihawks training to surpass him and mihawk took him up on that i dont think there relationship is nearly as rosy as you seem to think Rosy? did you completley miss my point? Zoros goal has always been to become the strongest swordsman in the world. If someone like Shillew surpasses Mihawk and beats him, Zoro will have to beat Shillew to reach his goal.
ya and 1+1=2 but if noone surpasses mihawk Zoro would not hesitate to fight mihawk to the death
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Didn't Zoro ask for Mihawk to train him so he could help Luffy?
The reason being "if I can't make my captain the pirate king, I can't become the truly strongest swordsman"
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On June 30 2014 01:49 Mataza wrote:
Didn't Zoro ask for Mihawk to train him so he could help Luffy?
The reason being "if I can't make my captain the pirate king, I can't become the truly strongest swordsman"
yes he did. Doesn't mean he doesn't want to take mihawks crown despite that. I think he wanted to be trained he believes that even if he will beat mihawk. He will never become a true strongest swordsman if he can't even protect his nakama and bring help him achieve his dreams.
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On June 30 2014 01:49 Mataza wrote:
Didn't Zoro ask for Mihawk to train him so he could help Luffy?
The reason being "if I can't make my captain the pirate king, I can't become the truly strongest swordsman"
he only told mihawk to train him so he can surpass him, Mihawk just realised that someone like Zoro would only bow his head for someone else
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On June 29 2014 22:09 squeezegats wrote:
BB is confirmed main final antagonist. there was an anime teaser trailer made for the entire new world/last half of one piece shown in japan. It begins with the monster trio fighting the Admirals (Sanji vs Kizaru, Luffy vs Akainu and Zoro vs Fujitora. Then it skips ahead to the blackbeard pirates emerging, shrouded in BBs darkness with looming music playing and blackbeard laughing intimidatingly as the trailer fades out.
You're just describing the new anime opening... It doesn't mean anything.
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yeah blackbeard isn't final boss imo
too many other contenders and i include coby in that
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On June 29 2014 22:09 squeezegats wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 19:22 Incognoto wrote:
Zoro went to sea to find Mihawk. He ended up meeting Luffy by chance. After Luffy essentially saved his life and gave him a "my way or you die" proposal, Zoro accepted to join up with Luffy. However Zoro said he'd kill Luffy if he ever got in the way of his dream.
Also why would BB be the final villain? Why not magneto-pirate? Or Smoker? Or Akainu? Why would Zoro fight his boss at the same time as Luffy?
Nah. Zoro went to sea to become to become the strongest swordsman in the world, because he had promised kuina. Right now Mihawk is the strongest and the guy he has to defeat, but if someone else defeats/kills mihawk, Zoro will have to beat that person in order to gain the title as strongest. Its really not that complicated to grasp, is it? His goal is to become the strongest swordsman in the world by defeating the current champion, regardless of who currently holds that title. Zoro and Kuina made a pact, promising each others that one of them would become the strongest swordsman in the world one day. Mihawk was never mentioned specificly and if he loses his title, he is no longer relevant to Zoros goal except perhaps as a mentor. BB is confirmed main final antagonist. there was an anime teaser trailer made for the entire new world/last half of one piece shown in japan. It begins with the monster trio fighting the Admirals (Sanji vs Kizaru, Luffy vs Akainu and Zoro vs Fujitora. Then it skips ahead to the blackbeard pirates emerging, shrouded in BBs darkness with looming music playing and blackbeard laughing intimidatingly as the trailer fades out.
First thing, anime openings don't mean shit. It doesn't "confirm" anything about the plot. Its laughable that you think it does.
Secondly, NO ONE is saying that Zoro has something personal against Mihawk, or if someone surpasses Mihawk, Zoro wouldn't fight them instead. What people are taking issue with is:
On June 29 2014 17:05 squeezegats wrote:
i read speculation that Blackbeard will fight shanks and maybe kill him, mihawk will come to his defense and fight shillew and whoever wins will become zoros final boss. I can almost believe it because right now mihawk and zoro are on good terms, when and why would they fight?
Why would they fight? Well, I can think of a pretty damn good reason why they would. If Mihawk is still the #1 swordsman, it doesn't matter how good of terms they are on.
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I thought about a crazy theory that Zoro does something amazing and Mihawk then just concedes that he can't compete with Zoro's display of skill, but I can't think of anything that's worth to write down.
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On June 30 2014 03:20 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 22:09 squeezegats wrote:On June 29 2014 19:22 Incognoto wrote:
Zoro went to sea to find Mihawk. He ended up meeting Luffy by chance. After Luffy essentially saved his life and gave him a "my way or you die" proposal, Zoro accepted to join up with Luffy. However Zoro said he'd kill Luffy if he ever got in the way of his dream.
Also why would BB be the final villain? Why not magneto-pirate? Or Smoker? Or Akainu? Why would Zoro fight his boss at the same time as Luffy?
Nah. Zoro went to sea to become to become the strongest swordsman in the world, because he had promised kuina. Right now Mihawk is the strongest and the guy he has to defeat, but if someone else defeats/kills mihawk, Zoro will have to beat that person in order to gain the title as strongest. Its really not that complicated to grasp, is it? His goal is to become the strongest swordsman in the world by defeating the current champion, regardless of who currently holds that title. Zoro and Kuina made a pact, promising each others that one of them would become the strongest swordsman in the world one day. Mihawk was never mentioned specificly and if he loses his title, he is no longer relevant to Zoros goal except perhaps as a mentor. BB is confirmed main final antagonist. there was an anime teaser trailer made for the entire new world/last half of one piece shown in japan. It begins with the monster trio fighting the Admirals (Sanji vs Kizaru, Luffy vs Akainu and Zoro vs Fujitora. Then it skips ahead to the blackbeard pirates emerging, shrouded in BBs darkness with looming music playing and blackbeard laughing intimidatingly as the trailer fades out. First thing, anime openings don't mean shit. It doesn't "confirm" anything about the plot. Its laughable that you think it does. Secondly, NO ONE is saying that Zoro has something personal against Mihawk, or if someone surpasses Mihawk, Zoro wouldn't fight them instead. What people are taking issue with is: Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 17:05 squeezegats wrote:
i read speculation that Blackbeard will fight shanks and maybe kill him, mihawk will come to his defense and fight shillew and whoever wins will become zoros final boss. I can almost believe it because right now mihawk and zoro are on good terms, when and why would they fight? Why would they fight? Well, I can think of a pretty damn good reason why they would. If Mihawk is still the #1 swordsman, it doesn't matter how good of terms they are on.
I guess Zoro would have fight Mihawk for the title before the SHs take on the Marines and BB.thougt, as he is paired to fight fujitora near the end and Fujitora is probably a stronger character than mihawk. Same goes with Shillew if he eats some crazy DF before the clash wich i expect him to-
I mean Zoro fighting a shichibukai as a final opponant after beating an admiral and a blackbeard yonko commander would be wierd and kinda lame. Its like a step downwards in terms of difficulity, so i guess mihawk will have to go a little earlier if they are to fight.
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Mihawk probably trained Zoro simply because he wants some decent competition to fight against and Zoro is one of the few that has the potential to even reach the same level.
Aka, without me you'll stay bored so train me into someone that can give you a good fight.
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Mihawk probably train Zoro because he wants to pass on his ways of the sword to the next generation. I'm on the same boat that Shilliew will kill Mihawk making the strongest swordsman only to lose to Zoro eventually.
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I think the Shillew theory is really clever. We saw in Marineford that mihawk cant cut through diamond (jozu). We know that the blackbeard pirates are hunting down DFs from other users in the new World. Theory goes something like this: Shillew will gain Jozus fruit through Blackbeards unknown DF-extraction technique. Shillew defeats Mihawk with his Diamond powers and becomes the strongest sworldsman in the world. Zoro goes up against Shillew and has to learn to cut through diamond, similiar to the Das Bones fight. After Das Bones it was even foreshadowed that Zoro will one day cut through diamond ("So what now, will you learn how to cut diamonds?")
This makes sense on many levels. Shillew defeating mihawk creates extra tension between BB and Strawhat pirates and shillew earns Zoros enmity, overall hyping up their confrontation.
By defeating Diamind Shillew, Zoro fullfills his promise to both Kuina and Mihawk. He swore to Kuina to become the strongest sworldsman in the world, and swore to mihawk to surpass him. By uncovering how to cut diamond he will really surpass Mihawk, not by simply defeating him but reaching a level of swordsmanship that mihawk and probably no other swordsman has ever achieved before.
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to correct one thing, Mihawk cant cut diamond when hes a million miles away firing off air pressure, up close and personal might be different
i think he will beat Mihawk though through some sort of trickery or other scumbaggery gives Zoro a more personal reason to kick his ass like how BB captured ace shillew killed Zoros teacher
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Why does Shillew even need to beat Mihawk in order to get Zoro to fight him? When/if the Strawhats clash with Blackbeard, its pretty obvious that Shillew is setup to be his opponent, so I don't see what the point of patching in "And Shillew beat Mihawk too!" into the theory. It doesn't really add to anything, other than making Mihawk look like a scrub.
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I'm on board the Mihawk-will-get-beaten-train.
The version I hope for is that Mihawk will actually be beaten close to the Strawhats, both in terms of time and location.
Like for example, Mihawk chases after the BB crew because they injured/killed Shanks. Shanks currently being the only known friend of Mihawk(if he has other friend, maybe they get bullied by someone instead of Shanks).
The SH crew and him confront BB roughly around the same time. Then nature takes it course. Mihawk gets beaten, Zoro is around to find Mihawk and/or see the end of that fight and then Zoro goes after the new strongest swordsman.
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On June 30 2014 13:39 Sentenal wrote:
Why does Shillew even need to beat Mihawk in order to get Zoro to fight him? When/if the Strawhats clash with Blackbeard, its pretty obvious that Shillew is setup to be his opponent, so I don't see what the point of patching in "And Shillew beat Mihawk too!" into the theory. It doesn't really add to anything, other than making Mihawk look like a scrub.
i think that mihawk would be a bad final boss, thered be no emotional exchange just a duel between swordsmans
plus it seems like blackbeard is getting set up as the final boss so that means shillew makes the logical final boss for zoro more effecient that way
as for making mihawk look like a scrub, depends how he loses and what he does between now and then
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On June 30 2014 13:45 Mataza wrote:
I'm on board the Mihawk-will-get-beaten-train.
The version I hope for is that Mihawk will actually be beaten close to the Strawhats, both in terms of time and location.
Like for example, Mihawk chases after the BB crew because they injured/killed Shanks. Shanks currently being the only known friend of Mihawk(if he has other friend, maybe they get bullied by someone instead of Shanks).
The SH crew and him confront BB roughly around the same time. Then nature takes it course. Mihawk gets beaten, Zoro is around to find Mihawk and/or see the end of that fight and then Zoro goes after the new strongest swordsman.
I can see this happening and also believe it will happen something like that.
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