On October 20 2013 04:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
This just in: Blackbeard is Wolverine
This just in: Blackbeard is Wolverine
This just in: DD is Spiderman
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Belgium927 Posts
October 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#10821
On October 20 2013 04:59 DarkLordOlli wrote: This just in: Blackbeard is Wolverine This just in: DD is Spiderman | ||
AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
October 19 2013 21:46 GMT
#10822
Personally I still think he talks about Blackbeard. | ||
sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
October 19 2013 21:48 GMT
#10823
On October 20 2013 04:41 Incognoto wrote: Ok, good discussion everyone. Next question: Who is "that man"? Mihawk or Blackbeard ? http://i33.mangapanda.com/one-piece/434/one-piece-63467.jpg It's Roger. At that point in that chapter Whitebeard does not yet know it's Blackbeard who inflicted the scars on Shank's face, so he can't be refering to either the scars or Blackbeard (because why would Shank's face remind anyone of Blackbeard?). | ||
Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
October 19 2013 22:58 GMT
#10824
On October 20 2013 06:48 sumsaR wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 04:41 Incognoto wrote: Ok, good discussion everyone. Next question: Who is "that man"? Mihawk or Blackbeard ? http://i33.mangapanda.com/one-piece/434/one-piece-63467.jpg It's Roger. At that point in that chapter Whitebeard does not yet know it's Blackbeard who inflicted the scars on Shank's face, so he can't be refering to either the scars or Blackbeard (because why would Shank's face remind anyone of Blackbeard?). Because Blackbeard used three fanged claws in the past and shanks has 3 scar lines on his face. Supposedly Whitebeard knows how Blackbeard fought in the past. This may be wrong, but a reasonable way to think. I repeat: I do not think this is true. + Show Spoiler + I can already see in my mind, how somebody is going to tell me this is wrong. I know that. Because right afterwards Shanks tells WB who gave him that scar. | ||
Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
October 20 2013 02:42 GMT
#10825
On October 20 2013 05:07 shark. wrote: As I said before it is impossible to Debate whether or not Buggy is affected by haki strikes as we have not been shown absolute proof. To say that Mihawk wasn't using Haki despite knowing Luffy is a DF user and saying that he would go all out would be stupid. Yet given Buggy's DF was working as normal would show otherwise. Given the small glimpse into Haki we have been given we simply don't have enough info to possibly have a decent discussion about a topic such as Buggy etc. All we know is that Haki can be used to negate DF's to point where the user can still use his abilities but an opponent can by pass them given enough skill. Logias have been explained and we have been shown that paramecias can also be harmed but the nature of the strike being dealt also seems to play a huge impact onto the result. I only want to talk about the Buggy and Haki thing. How would it affect him? He seperates his body. Does it mean you think he has some sort of connection between the splitting and with Haki you could in fact tie them up orsomething? Haki enhanced attack/defence is like a waterblanket against fire, you can use it to cover yourself or to put out the fire. It doesn't allow you to make them unable to use their ability. It only allows you to punch through their DF and straight up damage their real bodies. So I'm not exactly sure why Haki would be really that detremental against Buggy unless ofcourse Buggy tries to fight but doesn't know how to use Haki against a Haki which would be bad for him as his punches wouldn't hurt really as much. | ||
i am plus
United States190 Posts
October 20 2013 03:01 GMT
#10826
+ Show Spoiler + one again they make luffy looker weaker then he really is -_- | ||
sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
October 20 2013 03:38 GMT
#10827
On October 20 2013 12:01 i am plus wrote: new anime episode + Show Spoiler + one again they make luffy looker weaker then he really is -_- How so? The anime is supposed to follow the manga to the letter (though it sometimes expands at places due to Oda wanting to add stuff). And why are you spoilering something that happened 1.5 years ago? | ||
Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
October 20 2013 07:17 GMT
#10828
On October 20 2013 12:38 sumsaR wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 12:01 i am plus wrote: new anime episode + Show Spoiler + one again they make luffy looker weaker then he really is -_- How so? The anime is supposed to follow the manga to the letter (though it sometimes expands at places due to Oda wanting to add stuff). And why are you spoilering something that happened 1.5 years ago? Simple, anime tries to make a 30 minute episode out of 5 minutes worth of content. It needs to extend everything, including fights. This means Luffy doesn't manhandle people in a few hits. It's why Hody actually gave Luffy trouble in the anime. | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8665 Posts
October 20 2013 08:20 GMT
#10829
On October 20 2013 11:42 Sableyeah wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 05:07 shark. wrote: As I said before it is impossible to Debate whether or not Buggy is affected by haki strikes as we have not been shown absolute proof. To say that Mihawk wasn't using Haki despite knowing Luffy is a DF user and saying that he would go all out would be stupid. Yet given Buggy's DF was working as normal would show otherwise. Given the small glimpse into Haki we have been given we simply don't have enough info to possibly have a decent discussion about a topic such as Buggy etc. All we know is that Haki can be used to negate DF's to point where the user can still use his abilities but an opponent can by pass them given enough skill. Logias have been explained and we have been shown that paramecias can also be harmed but the nature of the strike being dealt also seems to play a huge impact onto the result. I only want to talk about the Buggy and Haki thing. How would it affect him? He seperates his body. Does it mean you think he has some sort of connection between the splitting and with Haki you could in fact tie them up orsomething? Haki enhanced attack/defence is like a waterblanket against fire, you can use it to cover yourself or to put out the fire. It doesn't allow you to make them unable to use their ability. It only allows you to punch through their DF and straight up damage their real bodies. So I'm not exactly sure why Haki would be really that detremental against Buggy unless ofcourse Buggy tries to fight but doesn't know how to use Haki against a Haki which would be bad for him as his punches wouldn't hurt really as much. consider buggy's df to be a logia. his body splits against swords exactly the same way logias do. if haki imbued attacks can cut logias then its safe to assume buggy could get cut too. | ||
Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
October 20 2013 08:33 GMT
#10830
On October 20 2013 17:20 evilfatsh1t wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 11:42 Sableyeah wrote: On October 20 2013 05:07 shark. wrote: As I said before it is impossible to Debate whether or not Buggy is affected by haki strikes as we have not been shown absolute proof. To say that Mihawk wasn't using Haki despite knowing Luffy is a DF user and saying that he would go all out would be stupid. Yet given Buggy's DF was working as normal would show otherwise. Given the small glimpse into Haki we have been given we simply don't have enough info to possibly have a decent discussion about a topic such as Buggy etc. All we know is that Haki can be used to negate DF's to point where the user can still use his abilities but an opponent can by pass them given enough skill. Logias have been explained and we have been shown that paramecias can also be harmed but the nature of the strike being dealt also seems to play a huge impact onto the result. I only want to talk about the Buggy and Haki thing. How would it affect him? He seperates his body. Does it mean you think he has some sort of connection between the splitting and with Haki you could in fact tie them up orsomething? Haki enhanced attack/defence is like a waterblanket against fire, you can use it to cover yourself or to put out the fire. It doesn't allow you to make them unable to use their ability. It only allows you to punch through their DF and straight up damage their real bodies. So I'm not exactly sure why Haki would be really that detremental against Buggy unless ofcourse Buggy tries to fight but doesn't know how to use Haki against a Haki which would be bad for him as his punches wouldn't hurt really as much. consider buggy's df to be a logia. his body splits against swords exactly the same way logias do. if haki imbued attacks can cut logias then its safe to assume buggy could get cut too. Buggy is not a Logia. Your logic is baseless and faulty. | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8665 Posts
October 20 2013 09:02 GMT
#10831
On October 20 2013 17:33 Sentenal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 17:20 evilfatsh1t wrote: On October 20 2013 11:42 Sableyeah wrote: On October 20 2013 05:07 shark. wrote: As I said before it is impossible to Debate whether or not Buggy is affected by haki strikes as we have not been shown absolute proof. To say that Mihawk wasn't using Haki despite knowing Luffy is a DF user and saying that he would go all out would be stupid. Yet given Buggy's DF was working as normal would show otherwise. Given the small glimpse into Haki we have been given we simply don't have enough info to possibly have a decent discussion about a topic such as Buggy etc. All we know is that Haki can be used to negate DF's to point where the user can still use his abilities but an opponent can by pass them given enough skill. Logias have been explained and we have been shown that paramecias can also be harmed but the nature of the strike being dealt also seems to play a huge impact onto the result. I only want to talk about the Buggy and Haki thing. How would it affect him? He seperates his body. Does it mean you think he has some sort of connection between the splitting and with Haki you could in fact tie them up orsomething? Haki enhanced attack/defence is like a waterblanket against fire, you can use it to cover yourself or to put out the fire. It doesn't allow you to make them unable to use their ability. It only allows you to punch through their DF and straight up damage their real bodies. So I'm not exactly sure why Haki would be really that detremental against Buggy unless ofcourse Buggy tries to fight but doesn't know how to use Haki against a Haki which would be bad for him as his punches wouldn't hurt really as much. consider buggy's df to be a logia. his body splits against swords exactly the same way logias do. if haki imbued attacks can cut logias then its safe to assume buggy could get cut too. Buggy is not a Logia. Your logic is baseless and faulty. no it isnt. his body reacts exactly the same way logias do against sword attacks. against swordsmen he is no different than a logia so theres no reason for people to assume his body is immune to all sword attacks even with haki | ||
Warri
Germany3208 Posts
October 20 2013 09:37 GMT
#10832
On October 20 2013 18:02 evilfatsh1t wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2013 17:33 Sentenal wrote: On October 20 2013 17:20 evilfatsh1t wrote: On October 20 2013 11:42 Sableyeah wrote: On October 20 2013 05:07 shark. wrote: As I said before it is impossible to Debate whether or not Buggy is affected by haki strikes as we have not been shown absolute proof. To say that Mihawk wasn't using Haki despite knowing Luffy is a DF user and saying that he would go all out would be stupid. Yet given Buggy's DF was working as normal would show otherwise. Given the small glimpse into Haki we have been given we simply don't have enough info to possibly have a decent discussion about a topic such as Buggy etc. All we know is that Haki can be used to negate DF's to point where the user can still use his abilities but an opponent can by pass them given enough skill. Logias have been explained and we have been shown that paramecias can also be harmed but the nature of the strike being dealt also seems to play a huge impact onto the result. I only want to talk about the Buggy and Haki thing. How would it affect him? He seperates his body. Does it mean you think he has some sort of connection between the splitting and with Haki you could in fact tie them up orsomething? Haki enhanced attack/defence is like a waterblanket against fire, you can use it to cover yourself or to put out the fire. It doesn't allow you to make them unable to use their ability. It only allows you to punch through their DF and straight up damage their real bodies. So I'm not exactly sure why Haki would be really that detremental against Buggy unless ofcourse Buggy tries to fight but doesn't know how to use Haki against a Haki which would be bad for him as his punches wouldn't hurt really as much. consider buggy's df to be a logia. his body splits against swords exactly the same way logias do. if haki imbued attacks can cut logias then its safe to assume buggy could get cut too. Buggy is not a Logia. Your logic is baseless and faulty. no it isnt. his body reacts exactly the same way logias do against sword attacks. against swordsmen he is no different than a logia so theres no reason for people to assume his body is immune to all sword attacks even with haki We just cant know. What if it doesnt matter if he splits himself or gets sliced up? What would happen if law sliced him up, could he reassemble himself? Theres just no way to know and the discussion is useless imho. | ||
Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
October 20 2013 09:38 GMT
#10833
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Lysteria
France2279 Posts
October 20 2013 10:26 GMT
#10834
On October 20 2013 18:38 Salteador Neo wrote: ^ But Buggy is no Logia and his body doesn't split automatically, he chooses how to split each part. He does an awesome job at splitting his body tho. In Impel Down, he splitted his feet from a long distance without looking at them - but it's possible I need to read once again to be sure I'm not saying bullshit. | ||
Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
October 20 2013 11:13 GMT
#10835
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freewareplayer
Germany403 Posts
October 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#10836
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
October 20 2013 14:48 GMT
#10837
On October 20 2013 22:27 freewareplayer wrote: That wouldnt stop Law from taking his heart and simply stomping that tho, so i wouldnt really call it a counter. Law would probably still win, being a supernova and a Shichibukai, but he will have more trouble with Buggy than Buggys strength would suggest. Consider what he did to Vergo, buggy would just reassemble himself. Laws signature move of disabling an enemy by scrambling their bodyparts wouldn´t work, so he would have to try something new. Their abilities have more similarities. Buggy mentioned that he can fly with his bodyparts only if they are within a specific range from his feet, similar to how Law controls things within his Room. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
October 20 2013 15:15 GMT
#10838
On October 20 2013 22:27 freewareplayer wrote: That wouldnt stop Law from taking his heart and simply stomping that tho, so i wouldnt really call it a counter. unless he can freely control his heart and pull it away from law | ||
freewareplayer
Germany403 Posts
October 20 2013 16:13 GMT
#10839
@furumite you quoted my sentence, yet didnt read it? He doesnt need to do something new. Take his heart = gg wp. He did that to multiple people including smoker who even has Haki. If Buggy learned Haki till now is questionable. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
October 20 2013 16:40 GMT
#10840
On October 21 2013 01:13 freewareplayer wrote: We have already seen that he cant pull stuff away thats being held down. Law would have a field day with Buggy or anyone else without strong haki. @furumite you quoted my sentence, yet didnt read it? He doesnt need to do something new. Take his heart = gg wp. He did that to multiple people including smoker who even has Haki. If Buggy learned Haki till now is questionable. if law gets his hand on the heart then he may not be able to but before Law can he may be | ||
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