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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 21 2013 03:38 GMT
#10861
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2013 03:54 GMT
#10862
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2013 04:02 GMT
#10863
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.

buggys been pre-splitting for attacks since he was first introduced
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
October 21 2013 04:07 GMT
#10864
Buggy is the final boss
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 21 2013 04:07 GMT
#10865
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.

My statement wasn't aimed at you, and had nothing to do with Buggy (unless you think Buggy is a logia user). Chro said something like "I don't want to say that Haki 'counters' Logia users...", so I was simply saying "yeah, this is true, we saw it happen."
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 04:41:04
October 21 2013 04:37 GMT
#10866
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.


(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2013 04:57 GMT
#10867
Buggy pretty much only has his drive to reach his dream
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2013 05:21 GMT
#10868
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2013 05:26 GMT
#10869
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill

if he had such an amazing swimming ability the crew would ahve stopped hom from eating the "devil fruit"
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 21 2013 05:27 GMT
#10870
On October 21 2013 14:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill

if he had such an amazing swimming ability the crew would ahve stopped hom from eating the "devil fruit"


By any chance, are you Romanian Forikorder?
FlyingSheeps
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 05:41:59
October 21 2013 05:40 GMT
#10871
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill



Maybe seeing how losing his ability to swim also crushed him and made him give up on his dreams.
Its common sense that Shanks and Buggy trained together they where both greenhorn together on the same ship.

Rogers must have saw something in Buggy which made him take him on.
Buggy could have been a Great Pirate but he lost faith in himself and gave up.
agahamsorr0w
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands359 Posts
October 21 2013 07:23 GMT
#10872
On October 21 2013 14:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill

if he had such an amazing swimming ability the crew would ahve stopped hom from eating the "devil fruit"


why are you using these " with the word devil fruit and why do i have the feeling your reading skills are below average?buggy accidentally ate the fruit after being caught with it by shanks. he was planning on selling it to get his own crew. thats why he hates shanks.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 21 2013 07:45 GMT
#10873
On October 21 2013 16:23 agahamsorr0w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 14:26 Forikorder wrote:
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship


trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill

if he had such an amazing swimming ability the crew would ahve stopped hom from eating the "devil fruit"


why are you using these " with the word devil fruit and why do i have the feeling your reading skills are below average?buggy accidentally ate the fruit after being caught with it by shanks. he was planning on selling it to get his own crew. thats why he hates shanks.


Forikorder self admittedly has poor language skills so it is hard to argue/talk with him.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 21 2013 12:19 GMT
#10874
I just went to one piece spoiler, realised this week is a break week
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2013 13:21 GMT
#10875
On October 21 2013 16:23 agahamsorr0w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 14:26 Forikorder wrote:
On October 21 2013 14:21 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 13:37 FlyingSheeps wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:54 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 21 2013 12:38 Sentenal wrote:
We already know Haki doesn't auto-defeat Logia users. Akainu took a haki sword through his fucking neck, and just called it irritating lol


Yes, because he split around the attack. Buggy obviously is not anywhere near Akainu's level, and can't do fancy tricks of the sort, which makes this irrelevant. Are you sure you are not the one strawmanning, claiming that we are saying that Haki auto-defeats logias?

Either way, this debate is going nowhere, and I suggest we all drop it until Oda writes something clearly proving the argument either way.


Buggy doesn't need a fancy trick his DF split around sword automatically. (The Sword never really touches him because his body split around it due to his ability) This is similar to how atoms exist in real life on an atomic level we can't touch anything
Buggy has one of the most OP fruit it kinda the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8rkG9Dw4s
(Vsauce video explaining how you theoretically cant touch anything because of automatic splitting on an atomic level.)

Buggy has amazing ability,
was on Gol D. Rogers Ship
trained with sharks every day.

but he doesn't do anything with it because he doesn't have the will of a dream driving him.
the whole point of buggy is to show that even with great ability, training, etc you still need drive to reach for your dream that is what makes the difference.


trained with sharks every day.

... okay how about this super gosu theory about Buggy. He was actually the greatest swimmer ever, easily surpassing even mermaids in water maneuverability, and trained with sharks every day. He was kept on Gol D. Rogers crew, for his insane swimming ability, which allowed him to destroy any sea king. All this ended when he was betrayed by his blood brother Shanks, and treacherously coherced to swallow a devil fruit, rendering his most amazing skill voided. Since then, he was held a deep seated grudge against Shanks, and has since become Shichibukai to fight him, and obtain revenge...

Proof: in the flashback, Shanks says that swimming was Buggy's best skill

if he had such an amazing swimming ability the crew would ahve stopped hom from eating the "devil fruit"


why are you using these " with the word devil fruit and why do i have the feeling your reading skills are below average?buggy accidentally ate the fruit after being caught with it by shanks. he was planning on selling it to get his own crew. thats why he hates shanks.

i said "devil fruit" because he pretended to eat a "devil fruit" in front of the crew which wasnt actually a devil fruit but just a regular fruit so i added the " in order to differentiate it from him eating the real devil fruit
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 21 2013 19:19 GMT
#10876
On October 21 2013 13:07 flamewheel wrote:
Buggy is the final boss

Coby is final boss for Luffy, Helmeppo for Zoro.

Mihawk will lose to Helmeppo and will get the title of greatest swordsman so Zoro will have to duel him instead.
maru lover forever
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
October 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#10877
Buggy is just naturally lucky and charismatic. Both traits of great managers and CEOs. Buggy is living the high life right now. He's a Shichibukai, giving him government immunity and he's got a bitchin crew that can protect him. Buggy doesn't need to move a god damn finger. He can live his life comfortably and how he sees fit.
####
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 21:42:15
October 21 2013 21:41 GMT
#10878
He's living the dream!

You can bet your ass that that treasure mark he got from Luffy will come back and be of great importance though.
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
October 21 2013 22:21 GMT
#10879
On October 22 2013 06:40 Hyperbola wrote:
Buggy is just naturally lucky and charismatic. Both traits of great managers and CEOs. Buggy is living the high life right now. He's a Shichibukai, giving him government immunity and he's got a bitchin crew that can protect him. Buggy doesn't need to move a god damn finger. He can live his life comfortably and how he sees fit.

id say its more the prisoners being crazy then buggy being charismatic

hes definently a first class opportunist though
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8771 Posts
October 22 2013 02:43 GMT
#10880
On October 22 2013 04:19 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 13:07 flamewheel wrote:
Buggy is the final boss

Coby is final boss for Luffy, Helmeppo for Zoro.

Mihawk will lose to Helmeppo and will get the title of greatest swordsman so Zoro will have to duel him instead.

Helmeppo? Seriously? Even brook would beat him
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