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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On October 19 2013 12:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't really agree with this. Busoshoku Haki allows your attack to bypass the powers of a Devil Fruit, touching the "substantial body" (as the wiki puts it). A Haki imbued slice should really cut Buggy and actually harm him. If Buggy split around the attack, say using Haoshoku Haki, sure he'd be fine, but if he took the attack he'd be really cut, not simply split. Haki doesn't negate devil fruit powers, this is a fact. Buggy's Devil Fruit power makes him split/control himself when split. Getting cut 'splits' someone. Like I said, Buggy splitting isn't much as Buggy "avoiding" getting cut, or being immune to cuts, so much as he doesn't care/getting cut doesn't do anything to him. Since it splits him, and splitting him doesn't do anything to him. IDK why you are citing Wiki as a source, lol. | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
On October 19 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote: i think Haki would stop him from "instinctively" splitting but he can still jsut split normally and dodge i'm sure that's possible if he's on mihawk's level. otherwise he'd lack the skill to follow everything in order to split accordingly | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
On October 19 2013 10:37 Mataza wrote: Luffy said he was hurt, which I do remember. But Rayleigh was also way stronger than Luffy at that point and the first competent haki user. Whether Luffy got hurt because haki was used or simply because Rayleigh was just that much stronger than him is not clear to me. Wow so much bs... It's obvious Luffy wouldn't be hurt by a non-haki attack even from Garp because he's Rubber dude. Pretty sure you know that but you had to backpeddle. | ||
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freewareplayer
Germany403 Posts
Luffy can be hurt by sharp objects, but his DF counters blunt impacts. Buggy is the exact opposite, so a non haki strike from Mihawk is nothing to him. So we cant even know whether or not Haki affects Buggy being sliced, cause we cant be sure if we have seen him getting sliced yet. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On October 19 2013 12:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I don't really agree with this. Busoshoku Haki allows your attack to bypass the powers of a Devil Fruit, touching the "substantial body" (as the wiki puts it). A Haki imbued slice should really cut Buggy and actually harm him. If Buggy split around the attack, say using Haoshoku Haki, sure he'd be fine, but if he took the attack he'd be really cut, not simply split. The problem with wikis is that anybody can edit them. I could go right now and change all the one piece wikis I can find to represent my opinion. Anyway, the only 2 people I can remember to have hurt luffy with punches are Rayleigh and Garp. Both of which far outclassed Luffy, at least pre timeskip. Don't think that is in question. I'm not sure that we can find a satisfying answer in the manga yet. Haki is relatively recent, formally explained not long before the timeskip. edit: On October 19 2013 18:47 Sableyeah wrote: Wow so much bs... It's obvious Luffy wouldn't be hurt by a non-haki attack even from Garp because he's Rubber dude. Pretty sure you know that but you had to backpeddle. I forgot that Garp hit him in that little reunion story. Don't see any problem because Garp is still freaking awesome? Remember that Garp was the last line of defense during Marineford. He punched the "invincible" mythical zoan Marco back in place(there was a discussion about phoenix fruit in this thread). Garp being a haki user and being stronger than Luffy do not change a thing in my opinion. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Anyway, the only 2 people I can remember to have hurt luffy with punches are Rayleigh and Garp. Both of which far outclassed Luffy, at least pre timeskip. Don't think that is in question. broadaxe could hurt him, and the sisters everyone whos confirmed to know Haki can hurt him regardless of powerlevel even the sisters who were weaker | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8947 Posts
if the attack is imbued with haki it hurts as if he were a normal person. see anime episode/manga chapter where garp punches luffy in the head at water 7, nami says "but luffys a rubber man. he cant get hurt by punches" or something along those lines also at the island when rayleigh is training luffy, he flicks luffy in the head or something and luffy says "im a rubber man. why does it hurt" or something along those lines, and then he mentions that garp does the same thing i think. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Who is "that man"? Mihawk or Blackbeard ? http://i33.mangapanda.com/one-piece/434/one-piece-63467.jpg | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On October 20 2013 03:12 Dreamer.T wrote: Haki basically negates the physical defensive attributes of DF's. If someone imbues their attack with haki and slashes Buggy, that's basically RIP Buggy. That being said, doesn't mean Buggy can't split in anticipation of an attack. You people have no basis in the least to say things like this, so why do you? Saying Buggy can die to a haki slice is like saying Haki negates Devil Fruit powers. And we know it doesn't do that. We already had Mihawk fail to cut him. And in response to this, people just use Forikorder-esque responses like "Well, Oda never said Mihawk put Haki in that attack!" | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121009082343/onepiece/images/7/7e/Teach_at_Fishman_Island.png) although I'm pretty sure the animation team made a mistake here and in the manga the claw thingy only had 3 claws but I can't remember the chapter. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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shark.
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Kirsed
9381 Posts
On October 20 2013 04:41 Incognoto wrote: Ok, good discussion everyone. Next question: Who is "that man"? Mihawk or Blackbeard ? http://i33.mangapanda.com/one-piece/434/one-piece-63467.jpg Isn't it supposed to be Roger? | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
"the wound" Blackbeard's betrayal and killing one of Whitebeard's sons. Seeing Shanks injury from Blackbeard > reminding him of BB. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On October 20 2013 05:39 AsnSensation wrote: "the wound" Blackbeard's betrayal and killing one of Whitebeard's sons. Seeing Shanks injury from Blackbeard > reminding him of BB. COuld be it but the most obvious interpretation is that it's from Roger (he even mentions that Shanks just were a rookie back i nthe day later in their conversation). and since WB is dead we cant really get a confirmation from anyone but oda-sama | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 20 2013 05:39 AsnSensation wrote: "the wound" Blackbeard's betrayal and killing one of Whitebeard's sons. Seeing Shanks injury from Blackbeard > reminding him of BB. yes i also interpret whitebead talking about shank's scars | ||
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Kirsed
9381 Posts
On October 20 2013 05:58 Incognoto wrote: yes i also interpret whitebead talking about shank's scars My interpretation has always been that it's actually seeing Shanks reminds him of Roger as they were on the same ship and Shanks was seemingly close with Roger. | ||
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shark.
593 Posts
On October 20 2013 06:24 kirsed wrote: My interpretation has always been that it's actually seeing Shanks reminds him of Roger as they were on the same ship and Shanks was seemingly close with Roger. I too always saw it as Shanks reminding Whitebeard of Roger and his crew who had given him scars due to their battles. | ||
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