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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Or one of the character will get it, which I don't want to see that to happen. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On July 18 2013 23:40 OskO wrote: I was rooting for Kinemon to join as some kind of tailor (wich the crew lacks and could be handy as depicted in the current arc) during the Punk-hazard arc... it doesn't seem as likely now, but the character is in fact pretty unique if we are talking of look, abilities and personality. I like him.. and he is quite powerfull! | ||
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playnice
Malaysia302 Posts
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
Yea but another swordsman? idk | ||
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shark.
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
it fits, because then they have a one sword two sword and 3 sword style | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8789 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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shark.
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hooahah
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Milkis
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On July 19 2013 02:14 shark. wrote: If the tournament isn't inturrepted somehow (which i think is very likely) I can see Burgess taking home the mera. He's the first ship/division captain of BB so I can't see how Luffy should be able to take on the "first mate" of a Yonkou. Blackbeard says he doesn't let weaklings on his crew and unless BB carried his entire crew to Yonkou level it should be out of luffys power to take Burgress imo. IMO, new world will be far more about politics and less about raw power levels and whether or not someone is "yonkou level" or not. Luffy is probably Yonkou level, but he wont show it for a long time. You have to realize Oda has been very sneaky about showing off the Strawhat's power. | ||
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holyhalo5
United States187 Posts
I wonder what happens if a dwarf or toy eats a Devil Fruit? | ||
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
On July 19 2013 01:43 Forikorder wrote: it fits, because then they have a one sword two sword and 3 sword style i only saw him use one sword. He carries multiple swords because thats how samurai were. They would usually carry different types of swords. I dont think we have seen him fight with two swords unless im completely forgetting something. | ||
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shark.
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On July 19 2013 02:45 Milkis wrote: IMO, new world will be far more about politics and less about raw power levels and whether or not someone is "yonkou level" or not. Luffy is probably Yonkou level, but he wont show it for a long time. You have to realize Oda has been very sneaky about showing off the Strawhat's power. I admit that politics is involved in being a Yonkou but as Whitebeard and Shanks have shown, how powerful you are is a HUGE part. Oda is sneaky but hes not just going to go through a couple of arcs in the New World and go " oh btw Luffy >Shanks, Zoro surpassed Miwawk during the timeskip and such". The Strawhats while they are strong they are still probably not even = to admirals atm which is a fair bit below the level that has been shown of the current Yonkous in action. You can't just claim territory's and protect them without having the power to defeat anyone and everyone who come to take them. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On July 19 2013 02:45 Milkis wrote: IMO, new world will be far more about politics and less about raw power levels and whether or not someone is "yonkou level" or not. Luffy is probably Yonkou level, but he wont show it for a long time. You have to realize Oda has been very sneaky about showing off the Strawhat's power. Luffy is much stronger than he was before the time-skip imo, but I don't believe he's Yonkou level yet. He has to actually get through the new world before getting there. He has to have more very close fights like he did against Crocodile and Lucci before he gets to Yonkou level strength. I think though that you're probably right. Blackbeard couldn't 1v1 either Shanks or Whitebeard, even in two years I find it highly doubtful that he would be on their level. Similarly, I think that Mihawk has strength (or fighting ability, whatever you want to call it) quite comparable to Shanks (ie a Yonkou). However, Mihawk is "only" a Shichibukai. He doesn't seem the political type either. He's just interested in dueling competent swordsmen (the only time during the war he didn't seem bored was when Vista came). Anyway, why is Blackbeard a Yonkou? As it's been said in the story, it's because he knows Whitebeard's territories so well that he managed to acquire them so quickly. So, being a Yonkou doesn't demand "just" monster-like strength. It demands good politics, which, as Mihawk himself pointed out, Luffy seems to be good at. Anyway, I think Buggy isn't as weak as we all think he is by the way. Whitebeard said that both Shanks and Buggy were "not bad" when they were on Roger's ship, so Buggy could actually be much stronger than he seems. Or he could be referring to Buggy's "political" strength (no denying he's good at that). | ||
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Milkis
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On July 19 2013 03:26 shark. wrote: I admit that politics is involved in being a Yonkou but as Whitebeard and Shanks have shown, how powerful you are is a HUGE part. Oda is sneaky but hes not just going to go through a couple of arcs in the New World and go " oh btw Luffy >Shanks, Zoro surpassed Miwawk during the timeskip and such". The Strawhats while they are strong they are still probably not even = to admirals atm which is a fair bit below the level that has been shown of the current Yonkous in action. You can't just claim territory's and protect them without having the power to defeat anyone and everyone who come to take them. Luffy doesn't need to be stronger than the person to beat them. This is something that's been very consistent in the arcs before. I think my point is constantly that, focusing on power level and saying "X is stronger than Y" isn't that meaningful in One Piece and completely the wrong thing to focus on. That's my point in saying, "too much shounen logic". Also comparing Whitebeard to the rest of the yonkous is kind of unfair. Saying that Admirals < Yonkou because they couldn't (or rather, didn't) take on Whitebeard one on one is very shaky. Even saying that Strawhats aren't even at admiral level -- what evidence do you have about that, other than "shounen logic" (oh, it'd be boring if they were already at that level cause of power levels?) I think Oda focuses a lot on story telling, and story telling wise I think it'll take away a lot of excitement and tension if we find that again, our precious strawhats are so and completely outclassed as they were in the last half the series. I think Oda has been playing cards very well to show that Strawhats have improved a lot and he's veiling how strong they actually are and he'll continue to do so until much later. It's quite likely that the marines leave yonkous alone simply because attacking them would take way too much resources, so you leave them around as a balance of power, not because they couldn't take them on. The priority of the marines is very different from the priority of a single yonkou. One more note: Garp was on par with Roger. There are likely people in the marines who can take on a current yonkou if they were put in a position to fight. I think it makes a lot of sense that they were very cautious when approaching whitebeard. Basically all I'm saying is that I don't think power levels are clear cut at all in OP cause that's not that much of a focus. I personally think that something will happen and interrupt the tournament, but I also wouldn't doubt that Luffy would win if they got in a fight. Blackbeard will not be the final boss of One Piece -- the final boss will be the Marines, and the political game will be needed to play out for the set up. That's my personal preferences on how I think the story should turn out though. | ||
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Milkis
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I think though that you're probably right. Blackbeard couldn't 1v1 either Shanks or Whitebeard, even in two years I find it highly doubtful that he would be on their level. Blackbeard is a foil to Luffy. Oda made it clear many times that Luffy got the rubber fruit for a reason. What better power to counter earthquakes than to be rubber and just flow with it? I'm also a sucker for that theory that Luffy will somehow use the power of Kuma's fruit (whether it be a crew member or an item that ate kuma's fruit) to counter BB's darkness fruit. Won't be about power, just match ups and circumstance. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On July 19 2013 03:03 zeratul_jf wrote: i only saw him use one sword. He carries multiple swords because thats how samurai were. They would usually carry different types of swords. I dont think we have seen him fight with two swords unless im completely forgetting something. He used two swords when his severed chest fought Brook. | ||
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