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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
July 19 2025 16:13 GMT
#33201
You know the whole idea of Elbaph being an agricultural exporter? This image really puts it into perspective.

[image loading]


The Rocks pirates are absolutely stuffing their faces and are literally sitting on top of the food. And Harald is over there just having his usual dinner.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
August 03 2025 09:49 GMT
#33202
Rocks Pirates are so stacked holy.

The only logical reason for them losing on Godvalley is that they imploded even if Roger pirates + Marines jumped their ass.

Although practically speaking WG could overwhelm any faction if they want so long they pile up all their players (5 elders, gods knights and top marines)
this is a quote
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8880 Posts
August 03 2025 16:28 GMT
#33203
i think the fight at gods valley was just rocks himself no? rocks vs garp and roger.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
August 07 2025 13:32 GMT
#33204
On August 04 2025 01:28 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i think the fight at gods valley was just rocks himself no? rocks vs garp and roger.

It's multifaction war iirc

But yeah rocks vs roger and garp
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
August 14 2025 17:58 GMT
#33205
Looks like Shakky was the "treasure" of Hachinosu that triggered the God Valley incident. Basically the Helen of Troy in the One Piece world. I seem to recall Oda once giving an interview about how romance isn't a part of the One Piece story. And now every legendary character (except for Raleigh) is a simp. God I miss old one piece...
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RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1091 Posts
August 14 2025 21:55 GMT
#33206
Yeah, she's probably the treasure and it would explain why the Roger Pirates would also fight with Rocks, they were fighting over Shakky.

The simp stuff has always been there. It's been Sanji's schtick from the beginning. Brook is also very lecherous. It was also there en-masse when the Kuja pirates were introduced quite a long time ago. It's not really meant to be romance. It's used as a comedic gag much more than drama. You may have outgrown Oda's comedy... which is fair, you are a much older person than when you started.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
August 15 2025 00:11 GMT
#33207
I wouldn't call having heart eyes over a babe who rejects you romance. It's the same shtick as well as the horny black wolf from the old Looney Tunes cartoons who has to roll his tongue back up when seeing a beautiful woman, it's definitely just a gag joke.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-15 00:59:50
August 15 2025 00:56 GMT
#33208
On August 15 2025 02:58 Hyperbola wrote:
Looks like Shakky was the "treasure" of Hachinosu that triggered the God Valley incident. Basically the Helen of Troy in the One Piece world. I seem to recall Oda once giving an interview about how romance isn't a part of the One Piece story. And now every legendary character (except for Raleigh) is a simp. God I miss old one piece...


On August 15 2025 06:55 RenSC2 wrote:
Yeah, she's probably the treasure and it would explain why the Roger Pirates would also fight with Rocks, they were fighting over Shakky.

The simp stuff has always been there. It's been Sanji's schtick from the beginning. Brook is also very lecherous. It was also there en-masse when the Kuja pirates were introduced quite a long time ago. It's not really meant to be romance. It's used as a comedic gag much more than drama. You may have outgrown Oda's comedy... which is fair, you are a much older person than when you started.


For some reason fighting over a women to the point of annihilation sounds like such a normal human thing ever which is fairly common

If it really turns out that's the reason Rocks and Roger fought to death then it makes sense

Like I know Oda usually uses it more as a gag given the medium and the supposedly target audience in mind by the author but sex, money and power are like mostly what people fight over. And i'd be down if the massive fight really happened over some women

It's not always and it makes more sense than another silly reason. I mean what else do people(one piece characters) live for in the day and age without videogames and other recreational activities. Ofc it's just gonna be about power, money and women lol
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18659 Posts
September 05 2025 18:29 GMT
#33209
Shanks and Teach are of the same descent wow

Might Buggy be also on the island?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9582 Posts
September 05 2025 22:06 GMT
#33210
On September 06 2025 03:29 sharkie wrote:
Shanks and Teach are of the same descent wow

Might Buggy be also on the island?


How so? Did I miss something?
Shanks and Shamrock were born to Garland and a woman he (killed?) planned to replace with the (former?) Empress of Amazon Lilly, Shakky.
Teach is the son of Rocks D. Xebec (aka. Davy D. Jones) and ? we don't get to see the mother, unless I am mistaken?
Just because they (Teach and Shanks) are on the same island, doesn't necessarily mean they share the same blood, clan, ancestors?
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
September 06 2025 00:36 GMT
#33211
I think what he meant are that they're from the same island.

But this might not be the case, since Rocks said he moved his wife and kid to God Valley (his homeland) for their safety. That implies that teach was conceived / born somewhere else. Probably on Hachinosu.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18659 Posts
September 06 2025 08:47 GMT
#33212
On September 06 2025 07:06 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2025 03:29 sharkie wrote:
Shanks and Teach are of the same descent wow

Might Buggy be also on the island?


How so? Did I miss something?
Shanks and Shamrock were born to Garland and a woman he (killed?) planned to replace with the (former?) Empress of Amazon Lilly, Shakky.
Teach is the son of Rocks D. Xebec (aka. Davy D. Jones) and ? we don't get to see the mother, unless I am mistaken?
Just because they (Teach and Shanks) are on the same island, doesn't necessarily mean they share the same blood, clan, ancestors?


I thought the island is full of the same clan (members of the davy clan?) and yeah Garland definitely killed the woman
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
September 11 2025 13:50 GMT
#33213
Blackbeard's backstory and origins is shaping up to be really tragic. I'm starting to see why he is such a scumbag that he is today
this is a quote
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18659 Posts
October 10 2025 06:58 GMT
#33214
Are we going to see an epic team-up?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8880 Posts
October 10 2025 07:34 GMT
#33215
kinda looking less like garp and roger vs rocks and more like all of them vs imu/gorosei.

another break next week though. lame
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2554 Posts
October 15 2025 19:44 GMT
#33216
On October 10 2025 16:34 evilfatsh1t wrote:
kinda looking less like garp and roger vs rocks and more like all of them vs imu/gorosei.

another break next week though. lame

An existing theory is that Rocks is going to get Domi Reversed into a demon that Roger and Garp will defeat. Fits neatly into Xebec being considered an evil pirate when he's been pretty normal so far.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18659 Posts
October 16 2025 06:54 GMT
#33217
I'd argue that Xebec is actually morally even better than Roger...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-16 08:54:22
October 16 2025 08:53 GMT
#33218
What I would like to see happen - and I think it's possible - is that Xebec starts going after the Tenryuubito as the ones ultimately responsible for this whole incident and, despite witnessing the carnage, Roger and Garp team up to stop Xebec wiping out the Tenryuubito after the real battle is essentially over. Xebec does say "If you want me dead, I'll take you down first" in the latest chapter. When Rocks is first mentioned by Sengoku, he says Garp and Roger "teamed up to protect Tenryuubito and their slaves" and that that coalition defeated the Rocks Pirates. And iirc at some point even earlier, Rayleigh reflects on their history with the Tenryuubito and wonders if they did the right thing.

A lot more morally complex than "Rocks gets turned into a mindless demon they have to beat".
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8880 Posts
October 16 2025 10:55 GMT
#33219
i didnt remember the part about the roger pirates protecting the celestial dragons. when was this referenced again?
what would be the motive for roger to protect them?

isnt it more the case of roger and garp having a common enemy in xebec, but their reasons for fighting would be different? garp being a navy officer obviously has to protect the celestial dragons and the current world order, and roger would be fighting because xebec being "king of the world" probably wouldnt go well with his own plans
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-16 12:12:19
October 16 2025 12:12 GMT
#33220
On October 16 2025 19:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i didnt remember the part about the roger pirates protecting the celestial dragons. when was this referenced again?
what would be the motive for roger to protect them?

isnt it more the case of roger and garp having a common enemy in xebec, but their reasons for fighting would be different? garp being a navy officer obviously has to protect the celestial dragons and the current world order, and roger would be fighting because xebec being "king of the world" probably wouldnt go well with his own plans


Sengoku talks about Garp and Roger teaming up to protect Tenryuubito in chapter 957. I think a good motive would be that, after the battle is over, Xebec would kill them when they're defenseless, driven to it by them hunting members of his family for sport, and Roger + Garp might intervene to protect then-unarmed Tenryuubito. The morally complex choice to save defenseless but abhorrent people would be interesting for me. It's otherwise been a little over-the-top good/evil for me recently.
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