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b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 05:39:34
January 01 2013 05:39 GMT
#5501
On January 01 2013 14:36 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 14:35 b3n3tt3 wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:23 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:21 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Akainu's fruit could spawn earth if the magma cools down. Aokiji could spawn water if the ice melts. Lots of convenient shit

Dragon being a wind logia means he could control the stratosphere


akainu could technically spawn earth but he wouldnt be able to control the earth and it would take hella long to cool down (hell it mgiht even magically disapear after it stops being magma who fucking knows with DFs)

dont see how any of that would be convenient though... theyd have to wait a long time (ice to melt magma to cool) and all theyd get for there patience is a lump of rock and a puddle


Punk hazard

punk hazard (the ever burning ever freezing island) seems the anti-thesis to your "well akainu can make earth when his magma cools and Akainu can make water when his ice melts"

also i fail to see how Punk Hazard is in any way convenient


It proves that the shit they create doesn't disappear. Besides, the weather already got altered to abnormal levels that's why the ice didn't melt. Also there being flames and not magma proves that it cooled of to a fiery solid state
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 05:42 GMT
#5502
On January 01 2013 14:39 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 14:36 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:35 b3n3tt3 wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:23 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:21 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Akainu's fruit could spawn earth if the magma cools down. Aokiji could spawn water if the ice melts. Lots of convenient shit

Dragon being a wind logia means he could control the stratosphere


akainu could technically spawn earth but he wouldnt be able to control the earth and it would take hella long to cool down (hell it mgiht even magically disapear after it stops being magma who fucking knows with DFs)

dont see how any of that would be convenient though... theyd have to wait a long time (ice to melt magma to cool) and all theyd get for there patience is a lump of rock and a puddle


Punk hazard

punk hazard (the ever burning ever freezing island) seems the anti-thesis to your "well akainu can make earth when his magma cools and Akainu can make water when his ice melts"

also i fail to see how Punk Hazard is in any way convenient


It proves that the shit they create doesn't disappear. Besides, the weather already got altered to abnormal levels that's why the ice didn't melt. Also there being flames and not magma proves that it cooled of to a fiery solid state

well we dont see large piles of rocks everywhere just see the aftermath of the battle the cold and heat of there attacks obviously remain but its hard to say if the physical objects they make remain id expct alot more boulders everywhere if akainus magma hardened and remained

not that it really matters and TBH i dont see why were even talking about it
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
January 01 2013 06:04 GMT
#5503
Dragon's fruit could very well be an Eastern Dragon because our little samurai has the same type of fruit. And it's plausible to want to recreate the strongest fruit. (This being based on Dragon being the most wanted man (In manga this is a big indication of strength and not only leadership))
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 06:07 GMT
#5504
On January 01 2013 15:04 Sableyeah wrote:
Dragon's fruit could very well be an Eastern Dragon because our little samurai has the same type of fruit. And it's plausible to want to recreate the strongest fruit. (This being based on Dragon being the most wanted man (In manga this is a big indication of strength and not only leadership))

momosuke hasnt shown any sort of supernatural powers though, neither did any of the other 2 dragons

id be very surprised if Oda gave dragon the dragon fruit and added in weather control and other magic stuff into it
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
January 01 2013 06:19 GMT
#5505
On January 01 2013 15:07 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:04 Sableyeah wrote:
Dragon's fruit could very well be an Eastern Dragon because our little samurai has the same type of fruit. And it's plausible to want to recreate the strongest fruit. (This being based on Dragon being the most wanted man (In manga this is a big indication of strength and not only leadership))

momosuke hasnt shown any sort of supernatural powers though, neither did any of the other 2 dragons

id be very surprised if Oda gave dragon the dragon fruit and added in weather control and other magic stuff into it


You could theorize that Dragon has the original Dragon fruit with all the abilities to control the weather. And what momosuke has is a man-made DF attempting to copy Dragon's DF but is weaker obviously. Not to mention it's in the hands of little kid who has no clue what hes doing, I wouldn't expect him to use any powers if he even has them.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 06:29 GMT
#5506
On January 01 2013 15:19 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:07 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:04 Sableyeah wrote:
Dragon's fruit could very well be an Eastern Dragon because our little samurai has the same type of fruit. And it's plausible to want to recreate the strongest fruit. (This being based on Dragon being the most wanted man (In manga this is a big indication of strength and not only leadership))

momosuke hasnt shown any sort of supernatural powers though, neither did any of the other 2 dragons

id be very surprised if Oda gave dragon the dragon fruit and added in weather control and other magic stuff into it


You could theorize that Dragon has the original Dragon fruit with all the abilities to control the weather. And what momosuke has is a man-made DF attempting to copy Dragon's DF but is weaker obviously. Not to mention it's in the hands of little kid who has no clue what hes doing, I wouldn't expect him to use any powers if he even has them.

no zoan fruit has shown such magical abilities though, the closes was marco whos fruit was semi-logia semi-zoan
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1102 Posts
January 01 2013 06:32 GMT
#5507
Momo has already flown. I'd call that one power and I'd suspect there are more coming.

It is possible, but not confirmed, that Dragon has a Dragon fruit which would be quite a convenient name-fruit pairing. If so, it would be reasonable to believe that someone tried to copy Dragon's fruit because we do have to assume that Dragon is quite powerful (though not the absolute pinnacle of combat strength like Whitebeard). His bounty is a good indication, but not the final nail. Combine that bounty with the fact that he stopped Smoker from capturing Luffy with ease and Smoker didn't even bother to fight Dragon. Smoker goes after every outlaw with reckless abandon, so for Smoker to not immediately fight was another really good indicator of Dragon's strength.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2013 06:35 GMT
#5508
On January 01 2013 14:20 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 13:30 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 13:22 BlackMagister wrote:
The problem with storm being a Logia is that Storm is a bunch of different elements. It would be Aokoji, Enel and Monet plus other elements like wind and water. It would also be following the Whitebeard example of a really strong nature based fruit that does not allow the user to actually become the element. It's a much stronger argument that a Storm based fruit would be Paramecia than Logia.

If it were Logia it would probably just be wind. It could just be wind as it is possible Buggy was just acting as a lightning rod with his sword, but Dragon still summoned the storm with his wind. We still haven't seen Dragon use lightning outside of Loguetown after all.

The third argument, which I believe, is the mythical zoan making Dragon an Eastern style Dragon that can control the elements.

It COULD be either. I've said this multiple times. It COULD be a Logia, it COULD be a Paramecia. I've never said it has to be one or the other.

And we plus, we have had Logia being able to do tons of different shit before. Crocodile, with his Sand Fruit was able to create a Sandstorm in the palm of his hand and send it out. With his Sand Fruit he could drain the moisture out of stuff.

Is Smoke too weird of an element? Tons of things could be associated with that. Tons of things could be associated with practically all of the Logia fruits we have seen.

And although you are right about there being snow storms and stuff, that isn't really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about normal storms, you know, wind, rain, lightning. So if anything it would just be overlap with Enel, but Magma and Fire overlaps too, so its fine.

To reiterate, I'm not saying it has to be Logia, and I'm not saying it has to be Paramecia. It could feasibly be either one.

the difference is if someones a storm then waht do they turn into when stuff passes through them? stroms take many many different faces Logias are always one thing, wether its sand, ice, snow or smoke

even if they can use there element to make different things happen there element never can actually create many different things, even though Croc could make a tornado with his sand sand powers he did it using a knowledge of the geagraphy of the land and making a small one to act as a cataclyst he couldnt create a sandstorm as big as the ones that hit yuba on the fly

if Dragon was a storm logia then his element would be every element, wind, water, snow, ice, lightning, it would be completely different frome very other logia

magma and fire are similar, but a storm logia would be the exact same as multiple different fruits at the same time

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 01 2013 06:42 GMT
#5509
On January 01 2013 15:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 14:20 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 13:30 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 13:22 BlackMagister wrote:
The problem with storm being a Logia is that Storm is a bunch of different elements. It would be Aokoji, Enel and Monet plus other elements like wind and water. It would also be following the Whitebeard example of a really strong nature based fruit that does not allow the user to actually become the element. It's a much stronger argument that a Storm based fruit would be Paramecia than Logia.

If it were Logia it would probably just be wind. It could just be wind as it is possible Buggy was just acting as a lightning rod with his sword, but Dragon still summoned the storm with his wind. We still haven't seen Dragon use lightning outside of Loguetown after all.

The third argument, which I believe, is the mythical zoan making Dragon an Eastern style Dragon that can control the elements.

It COULD be either. I've said this multiple times. It COULD be a Logia, it COULD be a Paramecia. I've never said it has to be one or the other.

And we plus, we have had Logia being able to do tons of different shit before. Crocodile, with his Sand Fruit was able to create a Sandstorm in the palm of his hand and send it out. With his Sand Fruit he could drain the moisture out of stuff.

Is Smoke too weird of an element? Tons of things could be associated with that. Tons of things could be associated with practically all of the Logia fruits we have seen.

And although you are right about there being snow storms and stuff, that isn't really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about normal storms, you know, wind, rain, lightning. So if anything it would just be overlap with Enel, but Magma and Fire overlaps too, so its fine.

To reiterate, I'm not saying it has to be Logia, and I'm not saying it has to be Paramecia. It could feasibly be either one.

the difference is if someones a storm then waht do they turn into when stuff passes through them? stroms take many many different faces Logias are always one thing, wether its sand, ice, snow or smoke

even if they can use there element to make different things happen there element never can actually create many different things, even though Croc could make a tornado with his sand sand powers he did it using a knowledge of the geagraphy of the land and making a small one to act as a cataclyst he couldnt create a sandstorm as big as the ones that hit yuba on the fly

if Dragon was a storm logia then his element would be every element, wind, water, snow, ice, lightning, it would be completely different frome very other logia

magma and fire are similar, but a storm logia would be the exact same as multiple different fruits at the same time

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).

Also, Oda never said there wasn't a storm logia, so there must be a storm logia fruit.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
January 01 2013 06:42 GMT
#5510
On January 01 2013 15:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:19 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:07 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:04 Sableyeah wrote:
Dragon's fruit could very well be an Eastern Dragon because our little samurai has the same type of fruit. And it's plausible to want to recreate the strongest fruit. (This being based on Dragon being the most wanted man (In manga this is a big indication of strength and not only leadership))

momosuke hasnt shown any sort of supernatural powers though, neither did any of the other 2 dragons

id be very surprised if Oda gave dragon the dragon fruit and added in weather control and other magic stuff into it


You could theorize that Dragon has the original Dragon fruit with all the abilities to control the weather. And what momosuke has is a man-made DF attempting to copy Dragon's DF but is weaker obviously. Not to mention it's in the hands of little kid who has no clue what hes doing, I wouldn't expect him to use any powers if he even has them.

no zoan fruit has shown such magical abilities though, the closes was marco whos fruit was semi-logia semi-zoan


Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 06:43:55
January 01 2013 06:43 GMT
#5511
On January 01 2013 15:42 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:35 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 14:20 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 13:30 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 13:22 BlackMagister wrote:
The problem with storm being a Logia is that Storm is a bunch of different elements. It would be Aokoji, Enel and Monet plus other elements like wind and water. It would also be following the Whitebeard example of a really strong nature based fruit that does not allow the user to actually become the element. It's a much stronger argument that a Storm based fruit would be Paramecia than Logia.

If it were Logia it would probably just be wind. It could just be wind as it is possible Buggy was just acting as a lightning rod with his sword, but Dragon still summoned the storm with his wind. We still haven't seen Dragon use lightning outside of Loguetown after all.

The third argument, which I believe, is the mythical zoan making Dragon an Eastern style Dragon that can control the elements.

It COULD be either. I've said this multiple times. It COULD be a Logia, it COULD be a Paramecia. I've never said it has to be one or the other.

And we plus, we have had Logia being able to do tons of different shit before. Crocodile, with his Sand Fruit was able to create a Sandstorm in the palm of his hand and send it out. With his Sand Fruit he could drain the moisture out of stuff.

Is Smoke too weird of an element? Tons of things could be associated with that. Tons of things could be associated with practically all of the Logia fruits we have seen.

And although you are right about there being snow storms and stuff, that isn't really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about normal storms, you know, wind, rain, lightning. So if anything it would just be overlap with Enel, but Magma and Fire overlaps too, so its fine.

To reiterate, I'm not saying it has to be Logia, and I'm not saying it has to be Paramecia. It could feasibly be either one.

the difference is if someones a storm then waht do they turn into when stuff passes through them? stroms take many many different faces Logias are always one thing, wether its sand, ice, snow or smoke

even if they can use there element to make different things happen there element never can actually create many different things, even though Croc could make a tornado with his sand sand powers he did it using a knowledge of the geagraphy of the land and making a small one to act as a cataclyst he couldnt create a sandstorm as big as the ones that hit yuba on the fly

if Dragon was a storm logia then his element would be every element, wind, water, snow, ice, lightning, it would be completely different frome very other logia

magma and fire are similar, but a storm logia would be the exact same as multiple different fruits at the same time

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).

Also, Oda never said there wasn't a storm logia, so there must be a storm logia fruit.

Maybe the Storm Logia fruit is Haki.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 06:48 GMT
#5512
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas
Spermwahale
Profile Joined June 2012
United States85 Posts
January 01 2013 06:48 GMT
#5513
I was watching this documentary about greed in india and i came across a term "luffy" which means "gold." Do you guys think oda might have used this term for luffy?
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 06:59:35
January 01 2013 06:58 GMT
#5514
On January 01 2013 15:48 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

Show nested quote +
What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas

Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
mokumoku
Profile Joined January 2012
157 Posts
January 01 2013 07:03 GMT
#5515
On January 01 2013 15:48 Spermwahale wrote:
I was watching this documentary about greed in india and i came across a term "luffy" which means "gold." Do you guys think oda might have used this term for luffy?




(or vs Enel, giant gold ball punch)
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 07:10 GMT
#5516
On January 01 2013 15:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:48 Forikorder wrote:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas

Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?

Caesers ability to actually control gas is extremely limited as shown in his 2nd fight against Luffy he could onyl remove air in a short diameter around himself (though wether he was controlling the air or jsut creating a gas and keeping it around himself is hard to say)

noone will ever have a solid solid fruit becuase solid is not an actual thing its a state

gas is an actual thing solid is not someone could have a stone stone fruit or a mud mud fruit or a sand sand fruit or a metal metal fruit but couldnt have a solid solid fruit the fruits are generally very specific, Magellan can only create poison, Luffy can only stretch, whitebeard can only create earthquakes Ace can only create fire Caeser can only create gas

same deal with the liquid liquid fruit someone could have a water water fruit or a blood blood fruit but not control over all liquids

im probably not getting what im trying to say across though
Spermwahale
Profile Joined June 2012
United States85 Posts
January 01 2013 07:10 GMT
#5517
On January 01 2013 16:03 mokumoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:48 Spermwahale wrote:
I was watching this documentary about greed in india and i came across a term "luffy" which means "gold." Do you guys think oda might have used this term for luffy?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKxufU4oiDc

(or vs Enel, giant gold ball punch)


Lol i was thinkin of more like "gol.d" roger and the gold in the treasure
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 07:15:43
January 01 2013 07:14 GMT
#5518
On January 01 2013 16:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:58 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:48 Forikorder wrote:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas

Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?

Caesers ability to actually control gas is extremely limited as shown in his 2nd fight against Luffy he could onyl remove air in a short diameter around himself (though wether he was controlling the air or jsut creating a gas and keeping it around himself is hard to say)

noone will ever have a solid solid fruit becuase solid is not an actual thing its a state

gas is an actual thing solid is not
someone could have a stone stone fruit or a mud mud fruit or a sand sand fruit or a metal metal fruit but couldnt have a solid solid fruit the fruits are generally very specific, Magellan can only create poison, Luffy can only stretch, whitebeard can only create earthquakes Ace can only create fire Caeser can only create gas

same deal with the liquid liquid fruit someone could have a water water fruit or a blood blood fruit but not control over all liquids

im probably not getting what im trying to say across though

What the fuck am I reading, are you being serious, please tell me you aren't?

In case you aren't actually trolling me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
January 01 2013 07:18 GMT
#5519
On January 01 2013 16:10 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 15:58 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:48 Forikorder wrote:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas

Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?

Caesers ability to actually control gas is extremely limited as shown in his 2nd fight against Luffy he could onyl remove air in a short diameter around himself (though wether he was controlling the air or jsut creating a gas and keeping it around himself is hard to say)

noone will ever have a solid solid fruit becuase solid is not an actual thing its a state

gas is an actual thing solid is not someone could have a stone stone fruit or a mud mud fruit or a sand sand fruit or a metal metal fruit but couldnt have a solid solid fruit the fruits are generally very specific, Magellan can only create poison, Luffy can only stretch, whitebeard can only create earthquakes Ace can only create fire Caeser can only create gas

same deal with the liquid liquid fruit someone could have a water water fruit or a blood blood fruit but not control over all liquids

im probably not getting what im trying to say across though

Just to clarify, you believe gas is not a state of matter?
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 01 2013 07:19 GMT
#5520
On January 01 2013 16:18 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2013 16:10 Forikorder wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:58 Sentenal wrote:
On January 01 2013 15:48 Forikorder wrote:
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly

so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology

What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"

And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).


then hed be a cloud cloud man

the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard

much more badass then being able to create gas

Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?

Caesers ability to actually control gas is extremely limited as shown in his 2nd fight against Luffy he could onyl remove air in a short diameter around himself (though wether he was controlling the air or jsut creating a gas and keeping it around himself is hard to say)

noone will ever have a solid solid fruit becuase solid is not an actual thing its a state

gas is an actual thing solid is not someone could have a stone stone fruit or a mud mud fruit or a sand sand fruit or a metal metal fruit but couldnt have a solid solid fruit the fruits are generally very specific, Magellan can only create poison, Luffy can only stretch, whitebeard can only create earthquakes Ace can only create fire Caeser can only create gas

same deal with the liquid liquid fruit someone could have a water water fruit or a blood blood fruit but not control over all liquids

im probably not getting what im trying to say across though

Just to clarify, you believe gas is not a state of matter?

Well I asked him what he thought gas was, and that was his answer, so I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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