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On January 01 2013 15:48 Spermwahale wrote: I was watching this documentary about greed in india and i came across a term "luffy" which means "gold." Do you guys think oda might have used this term for luffy?
(or vs Enel, giant gold ball punch)
Lol i was thinkin of more like "gol.d" roger and the gold in the treasure
true but absence of evidence does point towards a conclusion however slightly
so far the only Zoans to display supernatural power is the dragon fruit which let momosuke fly and the Phoenix fruit wich let marco regnenerate or logia dodge attacks (was never really sure) seems a huge leap to assume that the dragon fruit gives the eater the ability to control weather based only on a very obscure piece of mythology
What do they turn into when something passes through them...? Really? A Storm cloud. Like a cumulonimbus or something. How is that even a question? Thats like asking "Well if he was a wind logia, what would he turn into???"
And why all this double standard with people saying a Storm being able to be too many things (so isn't feasible), when Caesar's Gas Fruit is able to control an entire state of matter (which, btw, is far more than what a Storm fruit would be able to do).
then hed be a cloud cloud man
the storm fruit would be able to do everything Monet can do, everything Enel could do and in addition create natural disasters on the scale of whitebeard
much more badass then being able to create gas
Just what the hell do you think Gas is lol? What would you think if someone had the "Solid Solid Fruit" or "Liquid Liquid Fruit"?
Caesers ability to actually control gas is extremely limited as shown in his 2nd fight against Luffy he could onyl remove air in a short diameter around himself (though wether he was controlling the air or jsut creating a gas and keeping it around himself is hard to say)
noone will ever have a solid solid fruit becuase solid is not an actual thing its a state
gas is an actual thing solid is not someone could have a stone stone fruit or a mud mud fruit or a sand sand fruit or a metal metal fruit but couldnt have a solid solid fruit the fruits are generally very specific, Magellan can only create poison, Luffy can only stretch, whitebeard can only create earthquakes Ace can only create fire Caeser can only create gas
same deal with the liquid liquid fruit someone could have a water water fruit or a blood blood fruit but not control over all liquids
im probably not getting what im trying to say across though
Just to clarify, you believe gas is not a state of matter?
Well I asked him what he thought gas was, and that was his answer, so I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
To be fair he's also correct in stating gas can also be a physical thing unlike the other state of matter called solid. You would then have to argue what kind of gas he was.
Now that I think about it everything I just said applies to solid too, IE what type of solid. So ya forikorder is just wrong and I'm tired and slightly buzzed.
didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
cause we all know Akainu is the epitome of humble
he was probably jsut reffering to how his fruit countered aces fruit like how luffys fruit countered enel
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
cause we all know Akainu is the epitome of humble
he was probably jsut reffering to how his fruit countered aces fruit like how luffys fruit countered enel
Wait, so hard countering something doesnt mean being stronger than?? The way I see it is that every fruit has a fruit its good against and another that its weak against.
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
cause we all know Akainu is the epitome of humble
he was probably jsut reffering to how his fruit countered aces fruit like how luffys fruit countered enel
I still find it a little annoying that magma supposedly "counters" fire. I just see it as Akainu's superior haki imbued attack ripping Ace a huge hole through his chest. Otherwise, if they were on equal levels of strength, I can see his hand just going through Ace and doing nothing. Now CC might actually be a good counter to ace, as he can remove all the oxygen in the area and essentially put Ace out.
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
cause we all know Akainu is the epitome of humble
he was probably jsut reffering to how his fruit countered aces fruit like how luffys fruit countered enel
it does not counter it, the counter is water or ice. its stated that magma is hotter then fire, there for stronger
On January 01 2013 22:50 Forikorder wrote: didnt think i was going to get across what i meant :/
what i was trying to say is, if your in a room and it starts filling with sand your not going to say "omg the room is filling with solids!" your going to say "omg the room is filling with sand" if the room starts filling with water you wouldnt say "omg the room is filling with liquid" youd say "omg the room is filling with water" if yhe room is filling with gas you would say "omg the room is filling with gas" because thered be no other way to describe it, you could put an adjective like "omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas" but youd still be using gas to describe the object coming into the room
No offence dude, but this has to be the worst argument in history. The only reason that people would only be able to describe something as gas, would be because they don't know the correct term. And if people are saying omg the room is filling with poison/sleeping gas, they might aswell say "omg the room is filling with C4H8Cl2S in a gas state", such as a room filled with water could also be described as a room filled with liquid H20.
my point is gas is both a state and the common term used to describe objects in taht state so the gas gas fruit exists, since liquid and solids are states but not common terms used to describe actual objects they wont be used as fruits
of course this is just my opinion
I see your point, but the matter of fact is that gas is not a matter but a state. It is quite possible that a Storm Logia DF would be somewhat of a combination fruit, but honestly, so is alot of other DFs. Gas for instance is a combination of Akainu, Aokiji' and honestly almost every other Logia, since almost every matter will turn into gas if heated. Furthermore a lot of Logias are actually the same power (somewhat). Sakazuki can control magma, which is just molten rocks. Crocodile can control sand which is in fact just a term to describe a combination of minerals and very small rocks. Both control rocks, just in different seizes and states.
I actually think that a Storm Logia is quite possible, even though a Dragon mythical Zoan would be cooler. Also i don't think that it would be a problem is Dragon possessed a flat out stronger Logia. Some Logias are just better than other, such as Sakazuki's fruit that is just better version of Ace's fruit. A strong Logia would be very fitting since Dragon is the most wanted man. As has already been mentioned, being the leader of anything in One Piece is almost equal to being the strongest member of that crew/faction.
Akainu and Aokiji cannot control gas, they cant even faux control gas by using there ability in creative ways (like Croc creating a tornado with his sand sand powers) so theres no overlap
also i wouldnt say that Aikanuss fruit is stronger then Aces, its just different
like Monet and Aokiji once controls ice and the other controls snow, just looking at it youd say that Aokijis is stronger but monets is more flexible and fluid then Aokijis
Akainu might be able to create stronger attacks but that doesnt mean tehre there neccesarily better since Aces might be faster or harder to dodge/block
Akainu said as he killed Ace that his DF is stronger then Ace's iirc.
cause we all know Akainu is the epitome of humble
he was probably jsut reffering to how his fruit countered aces fruit like how luffys fruit countered enel
Wait, so hard countering something doesnt mean being stronger than?? The way I see it is that every fruit has a fruit its good against and another that its weak against.
it may be stronger in a fight against it (like if 2 people are the same strength and one has fire and one has magma then magma wins) but that doesnt mean that magma is the stronger fruit in general just stronger in that specific scenario
well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?
Oh wait another thought, amongst the poneglyphs are the ancient weapons which means whoever wrote them process the weapons that can destroy the world. Which means they decided to not use the weapons but want the future generations to use the ancient weapons, unless they can't use the weapon and wants future generations to use them for something. But use that weapon against whom? does that meant they had an enemy that's so strong that they can't beat them without the ancient weapons? why weren't they able to use those ancient weapons to begin with?
On January 02 2013 02:42 rei wrote: well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?
the people who made them wouldnt have been concentrated all on one island so it might be less hiding them then tahts jsut where they placed them
also theyd be worried about there enemy finding them and hiding them (kinda odd the WG doesnt seem to have made any initiative at stealing the pneglyphs) they may be indestructable but there not immovable
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