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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 17:58:48
January 01 2013 17:55 GMT
#5541
most likely what happened to robin's hometown happened already to lots of places. if they had it in one place then they only have one shot of getting their shit not found out for the future generations. placing them in multiple places would increase their chances. however, splitting the message decrease their chances too. that's their countermeasure for keeping the message exclusive to the strong people worthy enough to know their secret. wouldn't want the government or some shady villain to accidentally figure out everything including the weapons of mass destruction. also curious to see if vegapunk learned the secrets too like robin did, adding to the fact that he's a scientist so he's bound to understand it more. unfortunately he's most likely a fan of WG

BTW I have this theory about roger's "hearing the voice of all things." When zoro battled it out with dazbones he said he could hear the steel's voice. Maybe it works out if he learns to hear each logia one by one? mb that's how roger got to be the strongest
Cirqueenflex
Profile Joined October 2010
499 Posts
January 01 2013 17:58 GMT
#5542
maybe the glyphs are spread out so you have to travel all over the world and see everything, for personal growth, enlightment, wisdom, or just so the makers can still laugh about making all those fools travel the world for a joke.
Give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 01 2013 18:05 GMT
#5543
On January 02 2013 02:52 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 02:42 rei wrote:
well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?

the people who made them wouldnt have been concentrated all on one island so it might be less hiding them then tahts jsut where they placed them

also theyd be worried about there enemy finding them and hiding them (kinda odd the WG doesnt seem to have made any initiative at stealing the pneglyphs) they may be indestructable but there not immovable

Well the WG obviously knows the existence of the poneglyphs since they made a law to prevent ppl from reading them. Yet choose not to do anything about them? or perhaps they don't know where they are located. But then again if they don't know where the poneglyphs are how on earth do they figure out the poneglyphs had information on the ancient weapons? could it be that the WG had their own history from the void century and know all about what happen and the ancient weapons?
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 18:08 GMT
#5544
On January 02 2013 03:05 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 02:52 Forikorder wrote:
On January 02 2013 02:42 rei wrote:
well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?

the people who made them wouldnt have been concentrated all on one island so it might be less hiding them then tahts jsut where they placed them

also theyd be worried about there enemy finding them and hiding them (kinda odd the WG doesnt seem to have made any initiative at stealing the pneglyphs) they may be indestructable but there not immovable

Well the WG obviously knows the existence of the poneglyphs since they made a law to prevent ppl from reading them. Yet choose not to do anything about them? or perhaps they don't know where they are located. But then again if they don't know where the poneglyphs are how on earth do they figure out the poneglyphs had information on the ancient weapons? could it be that the WG had their own history from the void century and know all about what happen and the ancient weapons?

the tenryuubito are supposedly the descendants of the "enemy" that apeared in the void century and fought the people who made the pneglyphs so they probably have an idea of what could be on the pneglyphs

they probably jsut think theres no point in rounding the pneglyphs up since they dont know where they all are and would be so much easier to just prevent anyone from learnign the language and leave the pneglyphs as bait
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 01 2013 18:12 GMT
#5545
Oh shit, if my deductions are correct, that means the ancients who made the poneglyph was at war with the World Government and used the ancient weapons against the world government, yet the world wasn't destroyed and the world government is still around after centuries. Which means that ancient civilization didn't really wanna kill off everybody, they only shown the weapon to the world like how USA nuked Japan and use the ancient weapons as a war detergent. And the World government called their buff and still wipe them out anyways. Oh wait maybe the ancients didn't get wipe out, they just all escape into outer space. I remember Enel found evidence on the moon that those people have the ability to space travel.
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b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
January 01 2013 18:18 GMT
#5546
Won't be surprised if all DFs originated from the ancient civilization since CC and Dofla had been mass producing them all the time. Maybe the recipe for zoan type got decrypted from a poneglyhp that's why all their creations have been only zoan (including CP9 DFs which the guy with purple hair got through "connections")
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 18:21:34
January 01 2013 18:20 GMT
#5547
On January 02 2013 03:12 rei wrote:
Oh shit, if my deductions are correct, that means the ancients who made the poneglyph was at war with the World Government and used the ancient weapons against the world government, yet the world wasn't destroyed and the world government is still around after centuries. Which means that ancient civilization didn't really wanna kill off everybody, they only shown the weapon to the world like how USA nuked Japan and use the ancient weapons as a war detergent. And the World government called their buff and still wipe them out anyways. Oh wait maybe the ancients didn't get wipe out, they just all escape into outer space. I remember Enel found evidence on the moon that those people have the ability to space travel.

the weapons cant literally destroy the world there jsut ridiculously powerful weapons with the potentail to destory everything on it (like Shirahoshi is one of the ancient weapons since she can control sea kings but sea kings can blow the world up)

the weapons could have been used but that just means there might have been a few more islands around during the void century

On January 02 2013 03:18 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Won't be surprised if all DFs originated from the ancient civilization since CC and Dofla had been mass producing them all the time. Maybe the recipe for zoan type got decrypted from a poneglyhp that's why all their creations have been only zoan (including CP9 DFs which the guy with purple hair got through "connections")



one of the fruits he got was the soap soap fruit so either smiles dont have to be zoans or he didnt get those fruits from him
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 18:31:19
January 01 2013 18:30 GMT
#5548
I can't believe the ancient civilization with the power of 3 ancient weapons can lose to the world government that's still looking for the ancient weapons one thousand years later, That tells us that their technology is still so far behind that the weapon centuries ago is still an upgrade for them after a thousand years. Unless, the ancient civilization were really aliens who came visit earth and there were only very few of them. So even if they process the technology they can't possible win that war when they are out number by the entire population of earth. Ya it's very likely they left what happened on the poneglyph and left earth for good to another planet when the world government wanted what they had. Or maybe the world governments are the good guys and the ancient aliens were the bad guys who enslave all human to build their civilization, and people in ancient time revolved against them, and they were force out of earth.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 18:50 GMT
#5549
On January 02 2013 03:30 rei wrote:
I can't believe the ancient civilization with the power of 3 ancient weapons can lose to the world government that's still looking for the ancient weapons one thousand years later, That tells us that their technology is still so far behind that the weapon centuries ago is still an upgrade for them after a thousand years. Unless, the ancient civilization were really aliens who came visit earth and there were only very few of them. So even if they process the technology they can't possible win that war when they are out number by the entire population of earth. Ya it's very likely they left what happened on the poneglyph and left earth for good to another planet when the world government wanted what they had. Or maybe the world governments are the good guys and the ancient aliens were the bad guys who enslave all human to build their civilization, and people in ancient time revolved against them, and they were force out of earth.

i dont think tehy did have the ancient weapons or at least couldnt use them in the battle, plus if the WG had fruit users then its not surprising they won

but the whole thing is still completely shrouded in mystery we have no idea the scale of the war, how it started we dont even know anything about the weapons (aside from mermaid chick)
if the WG had an army of DF users then even the ancient weapons wouldnt be enough to stand against them
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 01 2013 19:54 GMT
#5550
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 20:02 GMT
#5551
On January 02 2013 04:54 rei wrote:
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.

its hard for soemthing to be an ANCIENT weapon when it was only RECENTLY invented

it only worked because of his fruit ability and possibly the special clouds that are in the white white sky, i dont think maxim would be able to work at all if he came down to the blue sea
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
January 01 2013 20:26 GMT
#5552
On January 02 2013 05:02 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 04:54 rei wrote:
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.

its hard for soemthing to be an ANCIENT weapon when it was only RECENTLY invented

it only worked because of his fruit ability and possibly the special clouds that are in the white white sky, i dont think maxim would be able to work at all if he came down to the blue sea


Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon, yet she's no where near ancient.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
January 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#5553
On January 02 2013 05:26 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 05:02 Forikorder wrote:
On January 02 2013 04:54 rei wrote:
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.

its hard for soemthing to be an ANCIENT weapon when it was only RECENTLY invented

it only worked because of his fruit ability and possibly the special clouds that are in the white white sky, i dont think maxim would be able to work at all if he came down to the blue sea


Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon, yet she's no where near ancient.

Her ability is the ancient weapon, not Shirahoshi herself. She inherited the ability from her ancestors.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 01 2013 20:34 GMT
#5554
On January 02 2013 02:42 rei wrote:
well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?

Oh wait another thought, amongst the poneglyphs are the ancient weapons which means whoever wrote them process the weapons that can destroy the world. Which means they decided to not use the weapons but want the future generations to use the ancient weapons, unless they can't use the weapon and wants future generations to use them for something. But use that weapon against whom? does that meant they had an enemy that's so strong that they can't beat them without the ancient weapons? why weren't they able to use those ancient weapons to begin with?


It's so that humans can't use the weapons against each other because they need all the parts. They can only use the weapons when 1 person conquers them all (in which case they don't need to use the weapon anymore, and can just use it to rule peacefully) or if all the islands unify to fight the aliens.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 20:39 GMT
#5555
On January 02 2013 05:34 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 02:42 rei wrote:
well they can't be destroyed. so putting them all in the same place wouldn't be a problem. but then if they can still be hidden away even if they aren't destroyed. oh wait maybe that's why they are spread apart, The ppl who made them doesn't want them to be found so they take them to different places and hide them so no one can read everything at one go. But then why would they do that? the whole purpose of writing them down is for future generation to read them, so why hide them? and the people who are hiding them were suppose to be descendants of the one who made the poneglyphs. Unless they are not hiding them from people who aren't trying to read them, they are hiding from people who also want to hide the poneglyphs from other people. But then that would make them doing the exact thing their foe wants to do to begin with. WTF is the point then?

Oh wait another thought, amongst the poneglyphs are the ancient weapons which means whoever wrote them process the weapons that can destroy the world. Which means they decided to not use the weapons but want the future generations to use the ancient weapons, unless they can't use the weapon and wants future generations to use them for something. But use that weapon against whom? does that meant they had an enemy that's so strong that they can't beat them without the ancient weapons? why weren't they able to use those ancient weapons to begin with?


It's so that humans can't use the weapons against each other because they need all the parts. They can only use the weapons when 1 person conquers them all (in which case they don't need to use the weapon anymore, and can just use it to rule peacefully) or if all the islands unify to fight the aliens.

the oneglyphs arent parts there pieces of history, if you find the righ one youd know all youd need to awaken a weapon
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 01 2013 22:03 GMT
#5556
On January 02 2013 05:02 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 04:54 rei wrote:
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.

its hard for soemthing to be an ANCIENT weapon when it was only RECENTLY invented

it only worked because of his fruit ability and possibly the special clouds that are in the white white sky, i dont think maxim would be able to work at all if he came down to the blue sea


Maxim worked in outer space, why wouldn't it work on earth below 1000m. Enel is the one who powers the maxim, he + the maxim is the weapon of mass destruction. and no amount of haki can resist being electrocuted as long as you have H2O in your body the current will go through the body. Enel is god.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:05:43
January 01 2013 22:05 GMT
#5557
On January 02 2013 07:03 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2013 05:02 Forikorder wrote:
On January 02 2013 04:54 rei wrote:
well we do know pluton, it's a warship able to destroy the world, and franky supposingly have the blue print of another powerful warship that is a even match against pluton. But I'm pretty sure Enel's Maxim is the ancient weapon since he can fly that shit into space and use it to destroy an entire island.

its hard for soemthing to be an ANCIENT weapon when it was only RECENTLY invented

it only worked because of his fruit ability and possibly the special clouds that are in the white white sky, i dont think maxim would be able to work at all if he came down to the blue sea


Maxim worked in outer space, why wouldn't it work on earth below 1000m. Enel is the one who powers the maxim, he + the maxim is the weapon of mass destruction. and no amount of haki can resist being electrocuted as long as you have H2O in your body the current will go through the body. Enel is god.

maxim probably only works in low oxygen concentrations (like high in the air and in space) we already know the cloud dials and the skimmers dont work on the blue sea so maxim wouldnt either

also Haki would defend enels attacks cause Haki defends everything
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-01 22:10:07
January 01 2013 22:09 GMT
#5558
what low oxygen, the space between earth and the moon has 0 oxygen, how is it possible that you don't know that? and if Maxim took Enel to the moon it means it works fine without any oxygen. Enel is god. and haki obviously didn't defend against the teeth that bit off Shank's hand!
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 01 2013 22:10 GMT
#5559
On January 02 2013 07:09 rei wrote:
what low oxygen, the space between earth and the moon has 0 oxygen, how is it possible that you don't know that? and if Maxim took Enel to the moon it means it works fine without any oxygen. Enel is god.

ya its fine without any oxygen, its not fine when theres lots of oxygen thats why the cloud dials work in skypeia where theres little oxygen but not on the blue sea where theres lots
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
January 01 2013 22:19 GMT
#5560
dafuq? at ground lvl oxygen is 20% and at 1000m it's at 15%, and may i remind you that Enel passed out when luffy knock his ass out, so the maxim sink and when he woke up he fly the maxim from ground level all the way to the moon. just like Shirahoshi,, Enel is in the same category as weapon of mass destruction, think about it, all he had to do is nuke any part of the ocean with his maxim amplified ball of lightning, and every living thing in all the connected ocean will get electrocuted. Enel is obviously god.
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