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AsnSensation
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Sindriss
Denmark263 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 30 2012 19:15 AsnSensation wrote: Y I always thought that it was Kuma using his Pressure Canon to create that path, well maybe it was Dragon Kuma wasn't a cyborg back when he was under Dragon, at least I don't think so. Afterall, Vegapunk (who made him into a cyborg) works for the government, so I assumed the addition of cyborg parts started after he became Shichibukai. (If you are talking about Kuma using his Devil Fruit here, and not his cyborg armaments, disregard this lol) | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On December 30 2012 19:55 Sentenal wrote: Kuma wasn't a cyborg back when he was under Dragon, at least I don't think so. Afterall, Vegapunk (who made him into a cyborg) works for the government, so I assumed the addition of cyborg parts started after he became Shichibukai. (If you are talking about Kuma using his Devil Fruit here, and not his cyborg armaments, disregard this lol) Pressure cannon, not lazor cannon :p | ||
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mokumoku
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But if it's one of his fruits abilities wouldn't you see a paw print on the ground or something? | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
LOL it's confirmed. look at them wind effects. Dragon has a wind/weather based DF | ||
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Forikorder
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Zeo1990
United States132 Posts
Honestly i think its a little soon to be calling exactly what kind of power Dragon has if any...i mean I am sure his strong but i VERY much doubt its his fighting strength that gives him the "Worlds Most Wanted Man" title. I have a feeling its more to do with him being an incredibly charismatic leader and raising the revolutionary army in general. Like in this scene about Luffy from Mihawk's perspective: I am sure Dragon is hella strong but i get the feeling his real power is what he also passed to Luffy. It takes a lot of convincing to persuade someone to 100% rebel against the World Government. And Don't forget that Robin got a 78million bounty for her "crime" of knowing a certain language. Not to say that bolt of lightning that saved Luffy back in Loguetown isn't Dragon/Revolutionaries but this bit shouldn't be ignored either... Hes like the polar-opposite of Hitler =p | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:51 Zeo1990 wrote: I think the fire clearing was more likely then not a hell-blink from Ivan, the hormone-dude. It was a clear and narrow shock-wave that blew through the fire in that scene. So it was most likely him. Honestly i think its a little soon to be calling exactly what kind of power Dragon has if any...i mean I am sure his strong but i VERY much doubt its his fighting strength that gives him the "Worlds Most Wanted Man" title. I have a feeling its more to do with him being an incredibly charismatic leader and raising the revolutionary army in general. Like in this scene about Luffy from Mihawk's perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwSOFCBPd0 I am sure Dragon is hella strong but i get the feeling his real power is what he also passed to Luffy. It takes a lot of convincing to persuade someone to 100% rebel against the World Government. And Don't forget that Robin got a 78million bounty for her "crime" of knowing a certain language. Not to say that bolt of lightning that saved Luffy back in Loguetown isn't Dragon/Revolutionaries but this bit shouldn't be ignored either... Hes like the polar-opposite of Hitler =p if this was RL youd have a point but in manga the leader of a faction is always a demi-god | ||
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mokumoku
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
On December 30 2012 06:26 Sentenal wrote: Who said anything about a Storm Paramecia? You did, and please don't say that a storm fruit could be a logia | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 01 2013 12:09 Scaramanga wrote: You did, and please don't say that a storm fruit could be a logia I never said Paramecia, don't put words in my mouth. I said Storm Fruit. I have no clue how you could possibly miss-read that as "Paramecia", but whatever. Plus, we already have shit Ice, Smoke, Mud, Magma, and Sand as Logia, so I don't see why a Storm couldn't be a Logia. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
If it were Logia it would probably just be wind. It could just be wind as it is possible Buggy was just acting as a lightning rod with his sword, but Dragon still summoned the storm with his wind. We still haven't seen Dragon use lightning outside of Loguetown after all. The third argument, which I believe, is the mythical zoan making Dragon an Eastern style Dragon that can control the elements. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 01 2013 13:22 BlackMagister wrote: The problem with storm being a Logia is that Storm is a bunch of different elements. It would be Aokoji, Enel and Monet plus other elements like wind and water. It would also be following the Whitebeard example of a really strong nature based fruit that does not allow the user to actually become the element. It's a much stronger argument that a Storm based fruit would be Paramecia than Logia. If it were Logia it would probably just be wind. It could just be wind as it is possible Buggy was just acting as a lightning rod with his sword, but Dragon still summoned the storm with his wind. We still haven't seen Dragon use lightning outside of Loguetown after all. The third argument, which I believe, is the mythical zoan making Dragon an Eastern style Dragon that can control the elements. It COULD be either. I've said this multiple times. It COULD be a Logia, it COULD be a Paramecia. I've never said it has to be one or the other. And we plus, we have had Logia being able to do tons of different shit before. Crocodile, with his Sand Fruit was able to create a Sandstorm in the palm of his hand and send it out. With his Sand Fruit he could drain the moisture out of stuff. Is Smoke too weird of an element? Tons of things could be associated with that. Tons of things could be associated with practically all of the Logia fruits we have seen. And although you are right about there being snow storms and stuff, that isn't really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about normal storms, you know, wind, rain, lightning. So if anything it would just be overlap with Enel, but Magma and Fire overlaps too, so its fine. To reiterate, I'm not saying it has to be Logia, and I'm not saying it has to be Paramecia. It could feasibly be either one. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 01 2013 13:30 Sentenal wrote: It COULD be either. I've said this multiple times. It COULD be a Logia, it COULD be a Paramecia. I've never said it has to be one or the other. And we plus, we have had Logia being able to do tons of different shit before. Crocodile, with his Sand Fruit was able to create a Sandstorm in the palm of his hand and send it out. With his Sand Fruit he could drain the moisture out of stuff. Is Smoke too weird of an element? Tons of things could be associated with that. Tons of things could be associated with practically all of the Logia fruits we have seen. And although you are right about there being snow storms and stuff, that isn't really what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about normal storms, you know, wind, rain, lightning. So if anything it would just be overlap with Enel, but Magma and Fire overlaps too, so its fine. To reiterate, I'm not saying it has to be Logia, and I'm not saying it has to be Paramecia. It could feasibly be either one. the difference is if someones a storm then waht do they turn into when stuff passes through them? stroms take many many different faces Logias are always one thing, wether its sand, ice, snow or smoke even if they can use there element to make different things happen there element never can actually create many different things, even though Croc could make a tornado with his sand sand powers he did it using a knowledge of the geagraphy of the land and making a small one to act as a cataclyst he couldnt create a sandstorm as big as the ones that hit yuba on the fly if Dragon was a storm logia then his element would be every element, wind, water, snow, ice, lightning, it would be completely different frome very other logia magma and fire are similar, but a storm logia would be the exact same as multiple different fruits at the same time | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
Dragon being a wind logia means he could control the stratosphere | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 01 2013 14:21 b3n3tt3 wrote: Akainu's fruit could spawn earth if the magma cools down. Aokiji could spawn water if the ice melts. Lots of convenient shit Dragon being a wind logia means he could control the stratosphere akainu could technically spawn earth but he wouldnt be able to control the earth and it would take hella long to cool down (hell it mgiht even magically disapear after it stops being magma who fucking knows with DFs) dont see how any of that would be convenient though... theyd have to wait a long time (ice to melt magma to cool) and all theyd get for there patience is a lump of rock and a puddle | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
On January 01 2013 14:23 Forikorder wrote: akainu could technically spawn earth but he wouldnt be able to control the earth and it would take hella long to cool down (hell it mgiht even magically disapear after it stops being magma who fucking knows with DFs) dont see how any of that would be convenient though... theyd have to wait a long time (ice to melt magma to cool) and all theyd get for there patience is a lump of rock and a puddle Punk hazard | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
punk hazard (the ever burning ever freezing island) seems the anti-thesis to your "well akainu can make earth when his magma cools and Akainu can make water when his ice melts" also i fail to see how Punk Hazard is in any way convenient | ||
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