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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 06 2022 17:40 GMT
#32381
Yeah on one hand it’s hard to believe they wouldn’t still be emperors if they weren’t alive but for the sake of the story they’re just going to be sidelined. Like said their crews still exist
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 06 2022 21:09 GMT
#32382
Are the Straw Hats really going to use the log pose for the first time since fishman island? I doubt it. If the path Luffy chose is South East then it means that he's not going to be making any progress going forward towards the end of the grand line. Seeing as how we're in the home stretch, I'd say something is going to interfere and force them to go another direction. It's either that or there's gonna be a series of montages to cover the next few islands which are essentially beginner zones while the Straw Hats are already at max level.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2022 04:04 GMT
#32383
They technically used the log pose to navigate through Totto Land
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-07 16:17:03
August 07 2022 16:08 GMT
#32384
it’s a slight running gag that the log pose always causes problems for the straw hats.

in the first half of the grandline: getting pointed to little garden, water-seven (which caused aokiji to activate cp9), the SKY, the bottom of the OCEAN

second half of the grandline: luffy causing the sunny to go along the worst routes

important to note that raftel is not necessarily at the absolute end of the grand line or dead center adjacent. there’s also god’s valley which sengoku claims conveniently vanished after the scandal there.

this will probably end up being a fortuitous thing but it would be funny if they just run into complete disaster with little payoff
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 07 2022 21:19 GMT
#32385
On August 07 2022 06:09 Hyperbola wrote:
Are the Straw Hats really going to use the log pose for the first time since fishman island? I doubt it. If the path Luffy chose is South East then it means that he's not going to be making any progress going forward towards the end of the grand line. Seeing as how we're in the home stretch, I'd say something is going to interfere and force them to go another direction. It's either that or there's gonna be a series of montages to cover the next few islands which are essentially beginner zones while the Straw Hats are already at max level.


Dude it doesn't matter. You're thinking too logically here. It's oda we're talking about. This guy will have zoro survive 43 admiral encounter. Just watch for the mysteries he laid out 10 years ago.
Life is just life
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 07 2022 22:11 GMT
#32386
On August 08 2022 06:19 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2022 06:09 Hyperbola wrote:
Are the Straw Hats really going to use the log pose for the first time since fishman island? I doubt it. If the path Luffy chose is South East then it means that he's not going to be making any progress going forward towards the end of the grand line. Seeing as how we're in the home stretch, I'd say something is going to interfere and force them to go another direction. It's either that or there's gonna be a series of montages to cover the next few islands which are essentially beginner zones while the Straw Hats are already at max level.


Dude it doesn't matter. You're thinking too logically here. It's oda we're talking about. This guy will have zoro survive 43 admiral encounter. Just watch for the mysteries he laid out 10 years ago.

they're going to Elbaf next cause gOda said so
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 09 2022 14:21 GMT
#32387
Well here's the thing, who exactly is going to be the new antagonist? The past few arcs dealt with the Yonko but they're gone now, so I guess it's either gonna be the marines or blackbeard. I suppose weevil might show up but can he really do anything against the Straw Hats at this point? If the straw hats go to some random island or to elbaf, it's gonna be an incredibly boring arc since there's no real conflict. That's why I'm leaning towards a montage or perhaps some off screen adventuring while we change focus for a little while to other characters like Buggy, Coby, Sabo, Vivi, etc...
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2022 16:17 GMT
#32388
On August 09 2022 23:21 Hyperbola wrote:
Well here's the thing, who exactly is going to be the new antagonist? The past few arcs dealt with the Yonko but they're gone now, so I guess it's either gonna be the marines or blackbeard. I suppose weevil might show up but can he really do anything against the Straw Hats at this point? If the straw hats go to some random island or to elbaf, it's gonna be an incredibly boring arc since there's no real conflict. That's why I'm leaning towards a montage or perhaps some off screen adventuring while we change focus for a little while to other characters like Buggy, Coby, Sabo, Vivi, etc...

Hard disagree. The exploration is the fun part, battles get boring fast. After a 100 chapter "raid" I can do with 2-3 islands of pure adventure and world building. Plus, our crew are Yonkos now, shouldn't we get to see some goomba-stomping like the old east blue days and the return to Sabody arc?
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-09 16:52:08
August 09 2022 16:50 GMT
#32389
On August 10 2022 01:17 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2022 23:21 Hyperbola wrote:
Well here's the thing, who exactly is going to be the new antagonist? The past few arcs dealt with the Yonko but they're gone now, so I guess it's either gonna be the marines or blackbeard. I suppose weevil might show up but can he really do anything against the Straw Hats at this point? If the straw hats go to some random island or to elbaf, it's gonna be an incredibly boring arc since there's no real conflict. That's why I'm leaning towards a montage or perhaps some off screen adventuring while we change focus for a little while to other characters like Buggy, Coby, Sabo, Vivi, etc...

Hard disagree. The exploration is the fun part, battles get boring fast. After a 100 chapter "raid" I can do with 2-3 islands of pure adventure and world building. Plus, our crew are Yonkos now, shouldn't we get to see some goomba-stomping like the old east blue days and the return to Sabody arc?

I too liked the east blue saga but it was a completely different manga back then. It was far more grounded and carefree. There was also no major overarching plot and the world was quiet and in equilibrium. Now, there's way too much shit going on right now in the OP world and plotwise for the Straw Hats to sit still. We're on the final arc of One Piece, there is literally no time left to waste.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2022 17:34 GMT
#32390
There literally is time to "waste" because we need the 4th poneglyph, and it would be silly for them to find it on the next island by luck.
Freeeeeeedom
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 09 2022 20:35 GMT
#32391
On August 10 2022 02:34 cLutZ wrote:
There literally is time to "waste" because we need the 4th poneglyph, and it would be silly for them to find it on the next island by luck.

Did you not get the memo?

https://www.dualshockers.com/eiichiro-oda-one-piece-end/

Oda wants to finish the series in 3 years. For reference, Wano was 4 years long. Even if his estimate gets blown up to 5 or 6 years, Oda can really only fit in 1.5 more Wanos and then the series is over. The only way you can fit in more "screwing around" time is if Oda goes back to writing 50 chapter arcs, which is highly unlikely given that One Piece arcs have only gotten longer over time.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7366 Posts
August 10 2022 01:57 GMT
#32392
Oda wants a lot of things, I give One Piece another fuckin 8 years minimum, two for Elbaf and then another six for the final arc. If theres a third arc bump it to 10 years minimum, lol.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 11 2022 03:08 GMT
#32393
On August 10 2022 10:57 Zambrah wrote:
Oda wants a lot of things, I give One Piece another fuckin 8 years minimum, two for Elbaf and then another six for the final arc. If theres a third arc bump it to 10 years minimum, lol.


which is pretty sad, given that the manga sales are down
Life is just life
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
August 11 2022 04:09 GMT
#32394
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 11 2022 22:14 GMT
#32395
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out. Why did we even have to get so much chapters on characters running around and timeless time bombs? It almost seemed like Oda purposely did this because he wanted to procrastinate on this. It's like why should we get 50 chapters of bird cage when we can get 50 chapters of BB/SHANKS/Vegapunk in exchange? Like what's the point of that seriously? It just affects the manga and points out Oda as being a flawed mangaka. You can't deny you actually enjoy bird cage and Big mom's wedding cake to be 50 chapter worthy and a good replacement for what we could've gotten right? It's like saying I want my meal to be 90% brocolli and 10% steak. Why not 90% steak and 10% brocolli like everyone wants?
Life is just life
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-12 04:36:55
August 12 2022 04:33 GMT
#32396
On August 12 2022 07:14 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out. Why did we even have to get so much chapters on characters running around and timeless time bombs? It almost seemed like Oda purposely did this because he wanted to procrastinate on this. It's like why should we get 50 chapters of bird cage when we can get 50 chapters of BB/SHANKS/Vegapunk in exchange? Like what's the point of that seriously? It just affects the manga and points out Oda as being a flawed mangaka. You can't deny you actually enjoy bird cage and Big mom's wedding cake to be 50 chapter worthy and a good replacement for what we could've gotten right? It's like saying I want my meal to be 90% brocolli and 10% steak. Why not 90% steak and 10% brocolli like everyone wants?

what are you blabbing on about? your post is riddled with contradictions and you dont make any sense.
you claim one piece's quality has turned to shit because oda is rushing the ending, but you then provide examples of scenes that had a high number of chapters invested into it for not much plot progression. you also say oda seems to be procrastinating. none of this is "rushing".
pacing problems in the manga post timeskip have been criticised a lot even in this thread, and it was exactly because we thought oda was going too slow rather than too fast. no idea how you ended up at the conclusion that oda is rushing the ending after all this.
and in this thread at the very least, the consensus seems to be that oda is definitely not going to finish one piece in 3 years. i dont know how you can accuse oda of not fleshing out details when the manga isnt finished and the explanations literally havent happened yet. in the next few years i expect oda will actually get around to elaborating on important plot points and we can decide whether the explanations were sufficient then. to me it seems like youre just on a mission to hate oda and one piece now and will find any excuse to do so. remarkably similar behaviour to far left/right nutcases.

you also conveniently dodged the point i raised about what sales metrics has anything to do with one piece quality.
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 12 2022 07:08 GMT
#32397
On August 12 2022 13:33 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2022 07:14 Shinokuki wrote:
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out. Why did we even have to get so much chapters on characters running around and timeless time bombs? It almost seemed like Oda purposely did this because he wanted to procrastinate on this. It's like why should we get 50 chapters of bird cage when we can get 50 chapters of BB/SHANKS/Vegapunk in exchange? Like what's the point of that seriously? It just affects the manga and points out Oda as being a flawed mangaka. You can't deny you actually enjoy bird cage and Big mom's wedding cake to be 50 chapter worthy and a good replacement for what we could've gotten right? It's like saying I want my meal to be 90% brocolli and 10% steak. Why not 90% steak and 10% brocolli like everyone wants?

what are you blabbing on about? your post is riddled with contradictions and you dont make any sense.
you claim one piece's quality has turned to shit because oda is rushing the ending, but you then provide examples of scenes that had a high number of chapters invested into it for not much plot progression. you also say oda seems to be procrastinating. none of this is "rushing".
pacing problems in the manga post timeskip have been criticised a lot even in this thread, and it was exactly because we thought oda was going too slow rather than too fast. no idea how you ended up at the conclusion that oda is rushing the ending after all this.
and in this thread at the very least, the consensus seems to be that oda is definitely not going to finish one piece in 3 years. i dont know how you can accuse oda of not fleshing out details when the manga isnt finished and the explanations literally havent happened yet. in the next few years i expect oda will actually get around to elaborating on important plot points and we can decide whether the explanations were sufficient then. to me it seems like youre just on a mission to hate oda and one piece now and will find any excuse to do so. remarkably similar behaviour to far left/right nutcases.

you also conveniently dodged the point i raised about what sales metrics has anything to do with one piece quality.


you win the argument. I just realized this won't go anywhere and that the thread is only left with hardcore one piece folks.
Life is just life
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
August 12 2022 10:27 GMT
#32398
On August 12 2022 07:14 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out.

dude, you're so annoying seriously
you are now complaining that what is not even done yet is already rushed, wtf ?
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44203 Posts
August 12 2022 14:02 GMT
#32399
Yonko Buggy just get more amusing the more time passes ngl

On August 12 2022 19:27 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2022 07:14 Shinokuki wrote:
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out.

dude, you're so annoying seriously
you are now complaining that what is not even done yet is already rushed, wtf ?

It's probably even gonna take like another 10 years to finish possibly lol

Manga as a medium take alot of time to fleshout chapters.
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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
August 12 2022 17:24 GMT
#32400
On August 12 2022 23:02 goody153 wrote:
Yonko Buggy just get more amusing the more time passes ngl

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2022 19:27 Yhamm wrote:
On August 12 2022 07:14 Shinokuki wrote:
On August 11 2022 13:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
you keep talking about manga sales as if its an important metric in judging whether one piece is good or not. one piece is almost 30 years old. do you actually expect one piece to retain the #1 position forever?


It's sad because he's rushing the ending rather than actually fleshing out all the mysteries and plots he laid out.

dude, you're so annoying seriously
you are now complaining that what is not even done yet is already rushed, wtf ?

It's probably even gonna take like another 10 years to finish possibly lol

Manga as a medium take alot of time to fleshout chapters.

Seriously, 10 years? I think you people are forgetting that Luffy is now Yonko level. There is no one left for him to fight besides Blackbeard and Imu. He could also fight Akainu, but at this point it's looking like Sabo is going to be the one to take him out. I suppose Oda could start just adding new random villains like in DBZ, but that would just dilute the overarching story of the manga.

Regardless of whether you like it or not, One Piece is ending soon. It's true that 3 years might be optimistic, but 10 years is way too much. I can really only 5 maximum if Oda really decides to take his time.
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