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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
July 28 2022 16:53 GMT
#32341
Oh yeah I certainly agree with that, I still enjoy it and the writing is still mostly decent, which certainly is an achievement considering it's running time.

I also think Shinokuki is overly negative and I wouldn't put money on anything Oda says when it comes to planned lengths. Was just pointing out that there was some criticism I thought was fair in there.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
July 28 2022 18:08 GMT
#32342
On July 29 2022 00:25 herMan wrote:
The bloat is real, can't deny it. The rest of the "arguments" are just subjective speculation, won't comment on that further.

There has been some criticism in this thread during the years, however at least for me I'm enjoying the manga even though it does have shortcomings. I feel most of the disappointment comes from the fact that the manga peaked a long time ago and naturally can't keep it's quality on that level all the time. Compared to other titles, such as Bleach and Naruto, Oda has done a hell of a job considering it's been 25 years.



Agreed on the length of the manga. Oda is probably burned out and doesn't have the same motivation he used to have. I'm hoping his motivation to write the last arc revives his former prime. It was just ridiculous to see only the hardcore one piece fans here on TL forum not mentioning anything wrong with what was happening to one piece. Seems like all the non biased fans have moved on from posting here and dropped the series.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-28 22:21:03
July 28 2022 22:19 GMT
#32343
On July 28 2022 13:42 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2022 08:25 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
you’re not being critical. you’re just whining about how much you don’t like what’s been released without offering anything but conjecture.

the plot threads you desperately want answered have been vaguely hinted at for literally decades (since probably Drum Kingdom) while Oda has done so many arcs with so many characters and subplots that we’ve enjoyed while the story progresses. if it is that painful for you to have to see so many “pointless characters” and so many scenes that you don’t appreciate then I highly suggest not reading the manga then because you’re going to get a lot of those when you read own piece.


No one is enjoying these subplots except hardcore fans. He got complaints and literally said in interview that he's not gonna write for his fans but for his own entertainment. One piece peaked in MF when MF was literally 20 chapters long. Meanwhile Wano tanked so hard and some people joked if oda replacement was writing the story. Bro when you say plot threads have been hinted. Oda literally just uses these hints as hype tools and revistis 400 chapters later. Oda is a writer who prioritizes hype first and then tries to figure shit out later. It became apparent when Oda was like a punch won't be a satisfying defeat for kaido. Well Luffy just punched him and defeated him. Oda got no detailed plan and he knows he doesn't have to plan shit out because he doesn't have his own rules/structure to follow. Oda fans will gladly praise him and say GODAOMG!! Literally casual readers dropped it and keep chiming in to ask me what happened in one piece. They just shake their heads in disbelief when I tell them Luffy now defeated kaido after dying 4x. They're like sheesh one piece is just utter trash now.

"No one is enjoying these subplots except hardcore fans!" guy says while conveniently ignoring OP is one of the most popular manga on the planet right now. I guess it just has a lot of hardcore fans. Taking your own whining and plastering them over the reader base is such conceit.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1065 Posts
July 28 2022 22:26 GMT
#32344
To be fair, it’s hard to read over a thousand chapters and not be a hardcore fan. Whenever I’ve suggested One Piece to other anime/manga fans the reason why they don’t try One Piece is that it’s too long. It’s not something you can jump into at any point either, you really need to start from the beginning.

So, you have to be pretty hardcore and it seems that it’s still one of the most popular mangas in the world despite requiring people to be hardcore.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 28 2022 23:01 GMT
#32345
LMAO, you guys bickering made me think the chapter had dropped.
Freeeeeeedom
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8711 Posts
July 29 2022 07:48 GMT
#32346
the chapter has indeed dropped.

robin needs to hurry up and send jinbei down there to see what there is
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 29 2022 14:00 GMT
#32347
Shanks chad
Never Knows Best.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
July 29 2022 23:36 GMT
#32348
Man, Shanks is a one trick pony. Seems like the only thing he can do is look constipated and knock out noobies. I hope he's at least got another trick up his sleeve. Maybe a robotic arm? Maybe a devil fruit? Idk, he just doesn't seem all that impressive to me.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 30 2022 00:44 GMT
#32349
The dude literally just scared away an Admiral with his mere presence, and that isn't impressive?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2540 Posts
July 30 2022 12:32 GMT
#32350
Not really. King from One Punch Man can do better.
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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
539 Posts
July 30 2022 13:08 GMT
#32351
most impressive things accomplished post-timeskip:

attended a wedding
scared a tree
visited some old people
read the newspaper regularly
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
July 30 2022 13:20 GMT
#32352
Well, they say that things in life calm down after you hit your forties.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 30 2022 22:01 GMT
#32353
On July 30 2022 22:08 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
most impressive things accomplished post-timeskip:

attended a wedding
scared a tree
visited some old people
read the newspaper regularly

He upgraded kid by taking his arm so he could have a cool robot arm
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 30 2022 22:08 GMT
#32354
On July 30 2022 08:36 Hyperbola wrote:
Man, Shanks is a one trick pony. Seems like the only thing he can do is look constipated and knock out noobies. I hope he's at least got another trick up his sleeve. Maybe a robotic arm? Maybe a devil fruit? Idk, he just doesn't seem all that impressive to me.

LMAO. We just learned Conq makes your attacks super effective and he shows a massive Conq feat, but sure, noob killer.
Freeeeeeedom
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 31 2022 12:55 GMT
#32355
If Shanks showed up with a robotic arm this thread would be discussing how Oda has no new ideas left because Kid already has that.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2022 22:19 GMT
#32356
Shanks is a weak ass bitch he got low diffed by a sea king Luffy 1 shot pre time skip. Buggy was shown to be even 1v1 with shanks in oden flash backs. TLDR no feats
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
August 01 2022 12:58 GMT
#32357
Oi don't you shame a big emperor like that, Buggy is one of the villains that came closest to killing Luffy.
low gravity, yes-yes!
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
August 01 2022 13:29 GMT
#32358
Wouldn't it be funny if Buggy was actually strong now.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 01 2022 14:59 GMT
#32359
On August 01 2022 21:58 Archeon wrote:
Oi don't you shame a big emperor like that, Buggy is one of the villains that came closest to killing Luffy.

True true. He also did the most damage to the straw hat of any char in the series. Not even bolo breath singed it but buggy put 3 holes right through it
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
August 01 2022 15:02 GMT
#32360
On August 01 2022 22:29 herMan wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if Buggy was actually strong now.


Funny enough I believe Oda did say at some point that Buggy could be one of the strongest characters. Might have just decided to make that a thing after all.
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