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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4075 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:42 udgnim wrote: Vladimir Putin plays the character of Roose Bolton and applies his real life experiences to the portrayal wow what a great joke man. cheers. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:07 mumming wrote: what triggered Catelyn to get that worried face? Did the song have some kind of meaning? I don't know the lyrics of the song >.< Or was it just the door slamming? The Rains of Castamere is a famous song in Westeros. It is dedicated to Tywin Lannister in particular and House Lannister in general. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:18 Aegon I wrote: The Rains of Castamere is a famous song in Westeros. It is dedicated to Tywin Lannister in particular and House Lannister in general. It's not the kind of song you'd play at a Wedding (especially not while at war with the Lannisters). Unfortunately, Robb and co. were all too drunk to notice. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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PSdualwielder
Canada77 Posts
On June 04 2013 13:37 darklordjac wrote: So I figure if words gets out about this the frey's wont exactly be very respected as a house at all across Westeros. Although I assume the Lannisters had something to do with this from Roose's whole "Lannisters sent their regards", and how he seemed so eager to send Jamie off when he was in Harrenhall. Who knows we will see. Anyyyyyyways, am I the only one here who actually likes Roose? Something about him. Reminds me of Twyin Lannister just not nearly as, pompous you may say. Every house wants something and for Lord Frey ultimately he wants attention. In season 1 he struck his deal in the first place because his house had been neglected for so long by all the big houses(Starks and Tullys), getting a marriage deal with the high lord of the Starks(Robb being Ned's oldest son) would score himself some standing. Getting screwed over after Robb's own marriage attempt infuriated Lord Frey into go doing his own thing to get attention, which is dealing with the Lannisters. Since the Freys and Lannisters are now 'allies' his house is now the safest, not to mention his castle has terrain advantage so he can't get sieged easily. Lord Frey doesn't care about respect, he wants to be noted and feared. Another thing is everyone in his family is waiting to succeed his seat in the house, and him not dying of old age yet means he can't get touched by anyone. It's all about Lord Frey. Roose Bolton is quite straightforward, he just wants power. | ||
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Aegon I
Canada133 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: It's not the kind of song you'd play at a Wedding (especially not while at war with the Lannisters). Unfortunately, Robb and co. were all too drunk to notice. I think its also a song that was known for being played while house reyne was brutally massacred and wiped from existence... | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:23 PSdualwielder wrote: Every house wants something and for Lord Frey ultimately he wants attention. In season 1 he struck his deal in the first place because his house had been neglected for so long by all the big houses(Starks and Tullys), getting a marriage deal with the high lord of the Starks(Robb being Ned's oldest son) would score himself some standing. Getting screwed over after Robb's own marriage attempt infuriated Lord Frey into go doing his own thing to get attention, which is dealing with the Lannisters. Since the Freys and Lannisters are now 'allies' his house is now the safest, not to mention his castle has terrain advantage so he can't get sieged easily. Lord Frey doesn't care about respect, he wants to be noted and feared. Another thing is everyone in his family is waiting to succeed his seat in the house, and him not dying of old age yet means he can't get touched by anyone. It's all about Lord Frey. Roose Bolton is quite straightforward, he just wants power. My take on Walder is that he wants to be considered a "great house" (because the Freys have been considered upstarts and looked down upon by other noble houses for centuries even before Walder), to the same level as the other Lord Paramounts. That, and he doesn't stick is neck out in general when he doesn't need to (Lord Walder "the Late" as Cat says in an earlier episode). He could've just as easily denied Robb's army passage across the river, and simply wait for reinforcements from the Lannisters, and ended the rebellion right there (and probably be named Lord Paramount as reward or somesuch). Jaime was besieging Riverrun after crushing Edmure's forces and scattered the Riverlords, while Tywin was relatively close by, so the situation would seem to favor a Lannister victory. So what does Walder have to gain from supporting a bunch of rebels (with the distinct possibility of defeat, and the memory of the Reynes of Castamere in mind)? So Robb breaking the betrothal was leaving the Freys up a creek without a paddle. Walder'd gone and risked his neck out for Robb by allowing him passage and providing a large levy of troops on a promise, which was later rescinded, and is now stuck on the losing side of the war. Oh sure, he gets Edmure, but everyone knows that it's basically halfhearted compensation and a step down from Queen of the North. And Ayra I suppose (but she's missing/presumed dead, while Sansa's been married off). The Freys were just looking to salvage the situation. Roose is probably more concerned about the fact that they're losing the war, what with the North is being occupied by Ironborn, Robb breaking a betrothal agreement to a very powerful family (probably the second strongest in the Riverlands besides the Tullys), and being up against a force with far superior men, manpower, and supplies. If Lord Karstark thinks the war is lost, Roose was also likely to pick up on that. So they were simply acting prudently to ensure their own survival (and benefit). Of course, the way they do it was incredibly profane (breaking guests rights[GoT Wiki] : aka the salt and the bread at the beginning of the episode) and not to mention brutal. And personally, I think the Starks kinda had it coming. They're personally likeable and all, but on the geo-political front, they've plunged the realm into a bloody civil war that no one really wanted for naive, if noble, reasons. Certainly, Tywin didn't want one if his past dialogue was clear (but his hand is forced when Cat, well-intentioned but misguided, kidnaps Tyrion). On non-wedding topics, whose heart do you think was shattered worse this episode, Jorah's or Yigritte's? EDIT: On June 04 2013 14:26 FlyingToilet wrote: I think its also a song that was known for being played while house reyne was brutally massacred and wiped from existence... Well yes, I was trying to understate it. :p To be fair, they've been foreshadowing the Wedding this entire season. All the focus on the song (including Cersei's extremely subtle threats to Margaery), and scenes of Tywin writing letters (and empathic focus on wax being sealed), and the "some wars are won with pens and quills" line. Also, http://i.imgur.com/KbUZPZQ.jpg This is actually quite an interesting pattern. Thoughts? | ||
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13408 Posts
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On June 04 2013 15:35 Bayyne wrote: Man fuck the fucking lannisters fuck em in the asshole. come now, they aren't all so bad. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On June 04 2013 15:35 Bayyne wrote: Man fuck the fucking lannisters fuck em in the asshole. Feel like Joffrey would enjoy that a little with his interest in sodomy. | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On June 04 2013 15:49 Zooper31 wrote: Feel like Joffrey would enjoy that a little with his interest in sodomy. we know Jaime does.. | ||
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:23 PSdualwielder wrote: Every house wants something and for Lord Frey ultimately he wants attention. In season 1 he struck his deal in the first place because his house had been neglected for so long by all the big houses(Starks and Tullys), getting a marriage deal with the high lord of the Starks(Robb being Ned's oldest son) would score himself some standing. Getting screwed over after Robb's own marriage attempt infuriated Lord Frey into go doing his own thing to get attention, which is dealing with the Lannisters. Since the Freys and Lannisters are now 'allies' his house is now the safest, not to mention his castle has terrain advantage so he can't get sieged easily. Lord Frey doesn't care about respect, he wants to be noted and feared. Another thing is everyone in his family is waiting to succeed his seat in the house, and him not dying of old age yet means he can't get touched by anyone. It's all about Lord Frey. Roose Bolton is quite straightforward, he just wants power. Yes, but Frey is after power too, not just prestige. This puts his puppet as the heir of Riverrun, as far as he knows (the uncle who took a piss may yet cause trouble for Frey's plans). With a usable screw-up of a Tully married to his daughter and terrified of both Frey and the Lannisters, Frey is the de facto leader of the Riverlands. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
The show won't be the same without those familiar faces. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 04 2013 15:58 LuckyFool wrote: What an episode. Kind of expected it but damn yo. Best episode all season for sure, can't wait to see how they top it next week....knowing my luck more people I like will get killed off though so I'm scared. The show won't be the same without those familiar faces. General season formula has been that Episode 9 is the climax of each season, while Episode 10 ties the current season to the next, with magic involved (and if past trends are to be accounted for, alternate between fire and ice magic). Though a safe assumption to make is that everyone dies. It is Game of Thrones after all. :p | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:18 Aegon I wrote: The Rains of Castamere is a famous song in Westeros. It is dedicated to Tywin Lannister in particular and House Lannister in general. Specifically, it celebrates his/their crushing of a rival house, as Cersei explains | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On June 04 2013 14:27 Dazed_Spy wrote: I definitely like Roose, hes got a certain quiet coldness to him. You could tell hed cut your throat for a penny without really minding, but probably wouldnt because hes more civilized and reasonable than that. Hope he becomes a big deal. Do you ever pull the legs off frogs just for laughs or dream about hurting people for no reason? I don't understand how these are sympathetic character traits. | ||
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