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On May 16 2013 03:05 chillpenguin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 02:56 CobaltBlu wrote:On May 16 2013 02:44 chillpenguin wrote:On May 16 2013 02:23 Jophess wrote:On May 16 2013 02:09 zatic wrote:
So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre. There should be no reason for them to be searched with their white sails unless they were to do something aggressive/suspicious. If they did get searched, I'm not sure anything would be done. How many Lannisters actually know of, or what Gendry looks like, and who said they were leaving the country? Just the fact that they were even in the bay was stupid. If you look at a map it makes no sense. Yes in peace time, the most efficient way to get from somewhere in the riverlands to Dragonstone probably would be to get a ship out of Kings Landing, but theres no way Melisandre and her posse of soldiers would just ride into Kings Landing and hop on a ship. If they got the ship somewhere else it would make no sense for them to then sail into the bay. It was just something done for dramatic effect without any regards for geography. It makes perfect sense. They probably took a boat down the Blackwater Rush and came out in Blackwater Bay. Ok yeah now that I look at it again it would make sense, but still pretty ballsy. I guess Melisandre saw in her fires she could get away with it.
The world is dangerous but its not so much dangerous as to make travel with a big and competent armed escort impossible, specially moving outside the main roads and pathways, and kings landing needs the trade so its not gonna start wacking all ships in the hopes it eventually finds something worth the trouble.
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I just realized the Comet is a Cameo from Metal Hurlant
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I want drogo back in the story  I am slightly losing hopes !
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On May 16 2013 17:17 E.L.V.I.S wrote:I want drogo back in the story I am slightly losing hopes !
I wouldn´t get my hopes up considering he was suffocated and then burned...
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On May 16 2013 07:29 Hitch-22 wrote:That and the seasons almost over, 3 episodes left? We remember what happened in season 1 and season 2 with 3 episodes left hahaha : P Shit went DOWNNNN and it seems like the last few episodes have passively mentioned this wedding and the Frey's. I'm feeling a bit suspicious haha
Well, apparently they split b*** three into seasons three and four. Not sure if we can expect a finale as epic as the previous seasons'. But one would hope so.
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On May 15 2013 12:53 jcroisdale wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 12:47 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 15 2013 12:15 Emnjay808 wrote:On May 15 2013 11:23 nitram wrote:On May 15 2013 10:52 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:On May 15 2013 10:35 Hitch-22 wrote:On May 15 2013 10:32 BlackMagister wrote:On May 15 2013 09:52 killa_robot wrote:On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote:
So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion. So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone. If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves. And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler +I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead Chances are the he is not dead in fact. We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D Even dead-dead ppl come back. Thank you magix Just to clarify, dead-dead means that you had your head cut off. Okay good, just so were clear on that. I await Syrio's return! Yeah, dead is just shit Lord of Light brings back, dead-dead is Ned Stark : P Does he need a head to be a whitewalker?
Yes, actually one does have to have a head to be a White Walker.
Just to clear up a common misconception: The White Walkers are not the reanimated dead. Even though it is unclear what the White Walkers in fact are, they are not zombies themselves, but their own race of powerful beings, that ALSO can reanimate the dead. That creates what is called a Wight. The phonetical indifference between "Wight" and "White" creates some confusion, I guess.
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On May 16 2013 17:26 unkkz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 17:17 E.L.V.I.S wrote:I want drogo back in the story I am slightly losing hopes ! I wouldn´t get my hopes up considering he was suffocated and then burned...
made me chuckle haha
but seriously, Carl was one of the most badass characters I know
not many die with their hair uncut
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I recommend you all to stay the fuck away from /r/gameofthrones or any source of discussion about GoT for the next 2 weeks or even until the season is over. Even here. I just caught a faggot spamming what will happen soon and as a non-reader it already fucked it up for me..
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It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses.
= 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money)
▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth)
▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces)
▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join)
▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow)
Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking?
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On May 16 2013 18:31 duoform wrote:
I recommend you all to stay the fuck away from /r/gameofthrones or any source of discussion about GoT for the next 2 weeks or even until the season is over. Even here. I just caught a faggot spamming what will happen soon and as a non-reader it already fucked it up for me..
Thanks for the advice dude, sorry about the idiot ruining it for you
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On May 16 2013 20:09 Scorch wrote:
It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses.
= 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money)
▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth)
▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces)
▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join)
▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow)
Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking?
Seems like it. I don't see dothraki join Dany atm because here whole anti slave thing. Hell i don't think Danaerys wants them anymore.
Btw is there any Stark that is actually decent in the game itself? Good warriors and great spirit. But not really smart.
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On May 16 2013 20:09 Scorch wrote:
It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses.
= 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money)
▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth)
▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces)
▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join)
▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow)
Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking?
hah! we have GoT power ranks now. Cool.
I'd rate Baratheon ahead of Taegaryen. Stannis has magic n shit. He still retains a somewhat decent naval force (Something Dany desperately needs) as well.
Lord of light is op
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On May 16 2013 21:11 massivez wrote:
Btw is there any Stark that is actually decent in the game itself? Good warriors and great spirit. But not really smart.
Benjen Stark seemed pretty smart to me in the show at least. Is he alive or dead btw? Or has the show not revealed anything.
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On May 16 2013 21:18 Thor.Rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 21:11 massivez wrote:
Btw is there any Stark that is actually decent in the game itself? Good warriors and great spirit. But not really smart. Benjen Stark seemed pretty smart to me in the show at least. Is he alive or dead btw? Or has the show not revealed anything.
Wasn't there a scene in season1 when a riderless horse comes back and Jon grabs it and says it is Benjen's horse? Or am I just remembering things wrong?!
BTW, Starks are smart they are just not ruthless enough
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On May 16 2013 21:44 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 21:18 Thor.Rush wrote:On May 16 2013 21:11 massivez wrote:
Btw is there any Stark that is actually decent in the game itself? Good warriors and great spirit. But not really smart. Benjen Stark seemed pretty smart to me in the show at least. Is he alive or dead btw? Or has the show not revealed anything. Wasn't there a scene in season1 when a riderless horse comes back and Jon grabs it and says it is Benjen's horse? Or am I just remembering things wrong?! BTW, Starks are smart they are just not ruthless enough
yeah but as stated previously, as long as you havent been fuckin murdered/butchered/burned on screen, youre probably not dead-dead.
Starks are too soft. They are Charmin soft.
if they were 10% as ruthless as the Lannisters, they wouldve owned them by now.
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On May 16 2013 20:09 Scorch wrote:
It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses.
= 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money)
▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth)
▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces)
▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join)
▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow)
Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking?
Love it, totally agree.
There are 7 kingdoms though. And more than 5 great houses, from the spoiler free wiki:
House Arryn, rulers of the Vale of Arryn from the castle at the Eyrie.
House Baratheon, who currently hold the Iron Throne and also rule the Stormlands from Storm's End.
House Baratheon of King's Landing, the branch that holds the Iron Throne.
House Baratheon of Dragonstone, the branch that rules over the islands of Blackwater Bay.
House Greyjoy, rulers of the Iron Islands from the castle at Pyke.
House Lannister, rulers of the Westerlands from the castle at Casterly Rock.
House Martell, rulers of Dorne from the castle at Sunspear.
House Stark, rulers of the North from the castle at Winterfell.
House Tully, rulers of the Riverlands from the castle at Riverrun.
House Tyrell, rulers of the Reach from the castle at Highgarden.
House Targaryen, the former royal house, displaced during Robert's Rebellion which brought House Baratheon to power. Currently in exile.
I don't think the Iron Islands are seen as great house these days, but these 3 are I think and should be included, even if they don't actively play the game at the moment:
- Arryn of the Vale ( ruled by Robin the tit sucking 12 year old and his "excentric" mother)
- Tully of the Riverlands ( ruled by Robb's uncle (forgot his name, Brutus from Rome) since Catelins father died)
- Martell of Dorn (I don't know much about them yet, besides princess Marcella brought there to get married and one of them married one of the killed madkings children)
The Whitewalkers and wildlings seem to be major forces indeed.
But so are:
- brotherhood without banners.
- the firewitch Mellisandra
- Warlocks
- Pirates
- Slavers
- Dothraki
- The free cities
etc etc
While I'm sure these all have and want at least some degree of power, I don't think they should be included in the rankings unless they actively and openly want to claim the throne?
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On May 16 2013 17:40 zimms wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2013 07:29 Hitch-22 wrote:That and the seasons almost over, 3 episodes left? We remember what happened in season 1 and season 2 with 3 episodes left hahaha : P Shit went DOWNNNN and it seems like the last few episodes have passively mentioned this wedding and the Frey's. I'm feeling a bit suspicious haha Well, apparently they split b*** three into seasons three and four. Not sure if we can expect a finale as epic as the previous seasons'. But one would hope so.
you won't be disappointed
bricks shall be shat
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Am I alone in thinking this thread would be better off completing banning speculation?
Right now, speculation posts make up a very small amount of the thread (I'd guess no higher than 15%), and they're not that interesting a part of the thread anyways. If we can get rid of sneaky spoilers while sacrificing very little, why not?
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On May 16 2013 20:09 Scorch wrote:
It's getting late in the week and we need some more unending discussion. After character alignments, swordsman rankings and ice melting methods, it's time for a current Power Rank of the Great Houses.
= 1 Lannister (still firmly in control, has the king, a good army and loads of money)
▲ 2 Tyrell (plays the Game well, about to have the queen, Margaery can control Joffrey, decent army and wealth)
▼ 3 Stark (lost the Karstarks, will soon gain Frey's forces)
▲ 4 Targaryen (playing Spartacus. Will be the strongest force when dragons grow and slaves and Dothraki join)
▼ 5 Baratheon (has not recovered from Blackwater Bay. Melisandre may still assassinate anyone with a shadow)
Agree/disagree? Also, where would the wildlings and the white walkers fit in the ranking?
nice power rank :D
stark's are not so ▼ imo. Getting the frey's back will be huge for them
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On May 16 2013 22:33 frogrubdown wrote:
Am I alone in thinking this thread would be better off completing banning speculation?
Nope, not at all.
Alternatively, speculation could be put in spoilers to prevent, er, spoilers. Oh the irony, I know, I know. But that way people could at least chose not to read any speculation of any kind.
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