On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion.
So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone.
If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves.
And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler +
I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead
Chances are the he is not dead in fact.
We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D
Even dead-dead ppl come back. Thank you magix
Just to clarify, dead-dead means that you had your head cut off. Okay good, just so were clear on that.
On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion.
So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone.
If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves.
And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler +
I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead
Chances are the he is not dead in fact.
We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D
Even dead-dead ppl come back. Thank you magix
Just to clarify, dead-dead means that you had your head cut off. Okay good, just so were clear on that.
I await Syrio's return!
Yeah, dead is just shit Lord of Light brings back, dead-dead is Ned Stark : P
On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion.
So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone.
If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves.
And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler +
I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead
Chances are the he is not dead in fact.
We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D
Even dead-dead ppl come back. Thank you magix
Just to clarify, dead-dead means that you had your head cut off. Okay good, just so were clear on that.
I await Syrio's return!
Yeah, dead is just shit Lord of Light brings back, dead-dead is Ned Stark : P
but yeah like jay808 said; GRRM takes your head off your shoulders with his pen and youre dead-dead. otherwise he puts you in a magic file holder or something for later.
On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion.
When was it said in the show that Braavos was founded by slaves?
Tyrion's last wife was also a whore? That's interesting..
This was said in Season 2 and hinted at in Season 1, you should know this : D lol, he tells both his body guard (always forget his name) and Shae while they're drunk before they have to fight at Blackwater Bay if I recall right.
On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion.
When was it said in the show that Braavos was founded by slaves?
On May 15 2013 07:57 FireS wrote: where are the wildlings going after passing the wall? I don.t get it.
They're going to attack castle black from the south
they seem to advance further and further south, through hills and forests. Castle Black is built within the wall ffs (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/The_Wall?file=The_Wall_Map.PNG) .
On May 15 2013 07:57 FireS wrote: where are the wildlings going after passing the wall? I don.t get it.
They're going to attack castle black from the south
they seem to advance further and further south, through hills and forests. Castle Black is built within the wall ffs (http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/The_Wall?file=The_Wall_Map.PNG) .
I'm assuming the same as the former poster, and clearly they didn't scale the wall AT castle black. so, plausibly, they could be walking parallel to the wall to get there, on the south side.
it's funny that just on the other side of the wall that the weather is so drastically different.
The Wildling rading party going deeper into Westeros I can see. Need to get out of vision of the Wall so they don't get spotted by any scouts.
After watching the epispde a 2nd time. What I didn't quite get is how Melisandre could come down the Blackwater river into the Bay and just sail right underneath Kings Landing and not get stopped by some kind of Cost Guard / Navy / Merchant Marine. The Lannisters only lost one ship in that battle (wildfire baneling)..the Lannisters should have a decent number ships all over the bay.
The Wildling rading party going deeper into Westeros I can see. Need to get out of vision of the Wall so they don't get spotted by any scouts.
After watching the epispde a 2nd time. What I didn't quite get is how Melisandre could come down the Blackwater river into the Bay and just sail right underneath Kings Landing and not get stopped by some kind of Cost Guard / Navy / Merchant Marine. The Lannisters only lost one ship in that battle (wildfire baneling)..the Lannisters should have a decent number ships all over the bay.
The boat they were on had white sails, which usually means they are traveling under peace/neutrality banners.
The Wildling rading party going deeper into Westeros I can see. Need to get out of vision of the Wall so they don't get spotted by any scouts.
After watching the epispde a 2nd time. What I didn't quite get is how Melisandre could come down the Blackwater river into the Bay and just sail right underneath Kings Landing and not get stopped by some kind of Cost Guard / Navy / Merchant Marine. The Lannisters only lost one ship in that battle (wildfire baneling)..the Lannisters should have a decent number ships all over the bay.
The fights are meant to look cool and represent what happened rather than be literally what happened, especially in regard to things like troop/ship numbers. The king's navy was pretty much wiped out in the battle.
So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre.
On May 16 2013 02:09 zatic wrote: So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre.
There should be no reason for them to be searched with their white sails unless they were to do something aggressive/suspicious. If they did get searched, I'm not sure anything would be done. How many Lannisters actually know of, or what Gendry looks like, and who said they were leaving the country?
On May 16 2013 02:09 zatic wrote: So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre.
There should be no reason for them to be searched with their white sails unless they were to do something aggressive/suspicious. If they did get searched, I'm not sure anything would be done. How many Lannisters actually know of, or what Gendry looks like, and who said they were leaving the country?
Just the fact that they were even in the bay was stupid. If you look at a map it makes no sense. Yes in peace time, the most efficient way to get from somewhere in the riverlands to Dragonstone probably would be to get a ship out of Kings Landing, but theres no way Melisandre and her posse of soldiers would just ride into Kings Landing and hop on a ship. If they got the ship somewhere else it would make no sense for them to then sail into the bay. It was just something done for dramatic effect without any regards for geography.
On May 16 2013 02:09 zatic wrote: So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre.
There should be no reason for them to be searched with their white sails unless they were to do something aggressive/suspicious. If they did get searched, I'm not sure anything would be done. How many Lannisters actually know of, or what Gendry looks like, and who said they were leaving the country?
Just the fact that they were even in the bay was stupid. If you look at a map it makes no sense. Yes in peace time, the most efficient way to get from somewhere in the riverlands to Dragonstone probably would be to get a ship out of Kings Landing, but theres no way Melisandre and her posse of soldiers would just ride into Kings Landing and hop on a ship. If they got the ship somewhere else it would make no sense for them to then sail into the bay. It was just something done for dramatic effect without any regards for geography.
It makes perfect sense. They probably took a boat down the Blackwater Rush and came out in Blackwater Bay.
On May 16 2013 02:09 zatic wrote: So what if the ship gets searched? On board is a foreigner and a low born young guy, leaving the country. Who would care? Remember, as far as the Lannisters know Gendry is dead and I don't know if they are even aware of Melisandre.
There should be no reason for them to be searched with their white sails unless they were to do something aggressive/suspicious. If they did get searched, I'm not sure anything would be done. How many Lannisters actually know of, or what Gendry looks like, and who said they were leaving the country?
Just the fact that they were even in the bay was stupid. If you look at a map it makes no sense. Yes in peace time, the most efficient way to get from somewhere in the riverlands to Dragonstone probably would be to get a ship out of Kings Landing, but theres no way Melisandre and her posse of soldiers would just ride into Kings Landing and hop on a ship. If they got the ship somewhere else it would make no sense for them to then sail into the bay. It was just something done for dramatic effect without any regards for geography.
It makes perfect sense. They probably took a boat down the Blackwater Rush and came out in Blackwater Bay.
Ok yeah now that I look at it again it would make sense, but still pretty ballsy. I guess Melisandre saw in her fires she could get away with it.
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