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Dazed.
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TSORG
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On May 15 2013 07:57 Zahir wrote: I like this answer. I think littlefinger is the closest to what id consider evil. Joffrey is a teenager for fucks sake. You take a random spoiled teenager with very little by the way of good parenting, and make him into a king, right in the midst of a civil war (the previous war having ended in the sack of the capital and slaughtering of the whole royal family) ... surround him with councillors like cersei and littlefinger and I guarantee some distasteful things will start to go down. The mountain is certainly dreadful by our modern standards, but at the end of the day he is a soldier following orders. He's exactly the kind of monster that arises under a tywin lannisters coldly, brutally efficient rule, during a particularly violent era, in a fuedal system that teaches nobles to give little regard for the small folk. Littlefinger, though, seems like a more or less self made man. He could've been anything, he chose to be what he is. its clearly the bastard of bolton imo. | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:57 FireS wrote: where are the wildlings going after passing the wall? I don.t get it. It differs from wilding to wilding, they don't have a "king" in the way that the seven kingdoms do. As a group though they want to keep going south to run from the "problems" beyond the wall. | ||
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SamsungStar
United States912 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:57 Zahir wrote: I like this answer. I think littlefinger is the closest to what id consider evil. Joffrey is a teenager for fucks sake. You take a random spoiled teenager with very little by the way of good parenting, and make him into a king, right in the midst of a civil war (the previous war having ended in the sack of the capital and slaughtering of the whole royal family) ... surround him with councillors like cersei and littlefinger and I guarantee some distasteful things will start to go down. The mountain is certainly dreadful by our modern standards, but at the end of the day he is a soldier following orders. He's exactly the kind of monster that arises under a tywin lannisters coldly, brutally efficient rule, during a particularly violent era, in a fuedal system that teaches nobles to give little regard for the small folk. Littlefinger, though, seems like a more or less self made man. He could've been anything, he chose to be what he is. There's a difference between distasteful and casually murdering women who have done nothing to you. I don't know what kind of kids you run into, but that's totally fucked in my book. There is no "outside influence" that can turn you into a murdering psychopath. That is a personal choice. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On May 15 2013 09:43 BlackMagister wrote: So Daenerys pissed off the city of Yunkai and the negotiator hinted they had powerful friends. I thought Yunkai was another free city like Bravos they were hinting that they could get an assassin like Jaqen Hgar, but it's the opposite since it's part of Slaver Bay and apparently Bravos was founded by slaves. So if anything Bravos would be more likely to ally itself with Daenerys and have a motivation to do so since the throne owes Bravos tens of millions according to Tyrion. So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On May 15 2013 09:52 killa_robot wrote: So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone. Tyrion made it sound like Braavos could call their debts anytime. he didn't say "when" he said "if" implying its past due. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
On May 15 2013 06:13 Excludos wrote: Yes, although GRRM did state that there is one true evil character in the show that he made evil just to have someone evil. I think he meant Joffrey, but it could be the mountain. The rest are just people doing evil or good actions for what they believe are good reasons. It could just as easily by Craster I think... | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
On May 15 2013 06:29 Deadlyhazard wrote: Anyone feel this season is kind of dragging? It just seems really slow compared to past seasons. It's still very very good, but I don't like it as much as season 1 and 2. Three more episodes and it doesn't feel like too much crazy can happen in just three episodes, but I'm probably wrong. We shall see! I love that it's so slow  Like it as much as season 1, and far better than season 2. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6667 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:15 kochanfe wrote: It could just as easily by Craster I think... The guy torturing Theon>>>>>>>>>>>Craster and the Mountain in evilness... | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On May 15 2013 09:52 killa_robot wrote: So far all we know is that the throne owes him money, and it will become a problem soon. Tyrion hasn't said when the money is due, so for the moment Bravos would have no reason to want the throne to be sacked, especially considering if that happens any chance of him getting his money back from them is gone. If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves. | ||
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Hitch-22
Canada753 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:32 BlackMagister wrote: If they raid King's landing and take it's wealth that will be a way to get money back. Tyrion implied that Bravos has funded enemies of those who didn't pay before after all. Bravos could have an even stronger motivation to fund Daenerys than money if she does take Yunkai free 200,000 slaves and position herself as a liberator of slaves as the Bravos was founded by slaves and accepts run away slaves. And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler + I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead  | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 15 2013 07:57 Zahir wrote: I like this answer. I think littlefinger is the closest to what id consider evil. Joffrey is a teenager for fucks sake. You take a random spoiled teenager with very little by the way of good parenting, and make him into a king, right in the midst of a civil war (the previous war having ended in the sack of the capital and slaughtering of the whole royal family) ... surround him with councillors like cersei and littlefinger and I guarantee some distasteful things will start to go down. The mountain is certainly dreadful by our modern standards, but at the end of the day he is a soldier following orders. He's exactly the kind of monster that arises under a tywin lannisters coldly, brutally efficient rule, during a particularly violent era, in a fuedal system that teaches nobles to give little regard for the small folk. Littlefinger, though, seems like a more or less self made man. He could've been anything, he chose to be what he is. I disagree. For the most part I think GRRM lives up to his claim of writing "Grey" characters in this series. Almost everyone has their more virtuous/admirable side as well as their skeletons and/or questionable actions. Some are obviously a bit more oriented to what many would perceive as good (Eddard) and some more towards the dark (Littlefinger), but still I feel everyone at least has a blemish on their character or a circumstance to make you at least somewhat sympathetic to their cause. EXCEPT Joffrey. I've tried searching for it, but I cannot fathom a single redeemable quality of this character. He's unusually cruel compared to others (to the point that he delights in other's pain) and incredibly stupid as a leader as well as cowardly. You blame parenting? Then you see Myrcella and Tommen, same parents same upbringing, total opposite in morality. Littlefinger, I actually find myself rooting for at times. Yeah he fucked over Eddard, but he lost the women he loved to him. You have to consider that he's not highborn and therefore could never have Catelyn, nor could he expect to rise far in this world given the great social inequality. But he did anyway, through his intellect. His manner of making it in the world are ugly, but so is the political game and the system itself. Almost everyone is scheming in King's Landing, everyone plays the game of thrones, but Littlefinger just might be playing it better. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: EXCEPT Joffrey. I've tried searching for it, but I cannot fathom a single redeemable quality of this character. He's unusually cruel compared to others (to the point that he delights in other's pain) and incredibly stupid as a leader as well as cowardly. You blame parenting? Then you see Myrcella and Tommen, same parents same upbringing, total opposite in morality. Not 100% true. Joffrey would have been raised as the crown prince, which means his upbringing is going to have a lot more ego and the pampering of a first child. Could have been a contributing factor. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:35 Hitch-22 wrote: And income Syrio Forrel, the foreign bravosi bastard, to FUCK SHITTTTT UP! + Show Spoiler + I wish : ( but, as we all saw, he's probably "tears up a bit" dead Chances are the he is not dead in fact. We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
"But I'd have to walk all the way up to your chambers to attend the meetings!" Tywin slowly gets close... "Well we could always arrange for you to be carried." I totally lost it, first scene in a while I actually had to pause I was rofling so hard. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
On May 15 2013 08:36 DonKey_ wrote: It differs from wilding to wilding, they don't have a "king" in the way that the seven kingdoms do. As a group though they want to keep going south to run from the "problems" beyond the wall. From my understanding, they just want to go south. South, as far as south will take them. | ||
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:56 LuckyFool wrote: I just wanted to say the Joffrey scene where he gets schooled by Tywin was so fucking amazing. I could watch it half a dozen times and still die every time. "But I'd have to walk all the way up to your chambers to attend the meetings!" Tywin slowly gets close... "Well we could always arrange for you to be carried." I totally lost it, first scene in a while I actually had to pause I was rofling so hard. Not just gets close, but climbs the stairs so he's looking down at Joffrey, leaving him feeling inferior even while sitting on his throne. Great scene. | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On May 15 2013 10:52 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Chances are the he is not dead in fact. We never saw him dead-dead. And in the GOT universe as long as youre not dead-dead you have chances to be back at some point. that character was really cool :D Even dead-dead ppl come back. Thank you magix | ||
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