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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On May 09 2013 13:15 c0ldfusion wrote: What? the very first sequence in the first episode of season 1 made me think I was in for a medieval zombie horror flick. Yeah, actually, at the very beginning I thought "This show is going to be awful." Zombies weren't a great way to lead off. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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venomium
Netherlands245 Posts
We have the Old Gods/ Ways, believe in spirits in plants/ animals etc, a very heathen point of view, mostly practiced by the northern part of Westeros (Stark/ Karstark, and ofcourse the wildling areas). If I understand correctly, most people are moving away from this religion in favor of the New Gods/ Ways. Special powers: Greenseers (Worgs/ Wargs?), people able to posses the minds of animals and have dream-visions. Most notable practitioners: Brann Stark, his new buddy, what's his name and the Wildling army. The R'Hollor or Fire God of Light, a new deity to Westeros, mostly practiced in the Eastern World, not really known to the viewers since Westeros doesn't really believe in him yet. This religion seems to be slowely creeping into Westeros. Special Powers: Resurrection Most notable practitioners: Bannerman without banners, Stannis Baratheon & the Red Priestess (My assumption, seeing as this God seems to be related to fire and the dragon eggs hatched in fire without harming Dany, is that they have some kind of connection) The Drowned God, a small religion mostly practiced on the Iron Islands/ Pyke. Main religion of the Greyjoys. No notable events regarding this religion for as far as I know. Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: Greyjoys The New Gods, a huge religion based on seven deities; the Smith, the Crone, the Father, the Mother, the Warrior, the Maiden and the Stranger. Seems mostly focused on the common people, seeing how every deity is something they can relate to. Mostly practiced in the southern part of Westeros (Lannister/ Baratheon/ Tyrell area) Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: most of Westeros On a side note; does anyone have the speech Littlefinger said in the last episode, I couldn't really hear him over the sound effects  | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On May 09 2013 15:18 venomium wrote: On a side note; does anyone have the speech Littlefinger said in the last episode, I couldn't really hear him over the sound effects "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. But they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real, the climb is all there is." | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On May 09 2013 15:41 MajuGarzett wrote: "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. But they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real, the climb is all there is." | ||
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
On May 09 2013 15:18 venomium wrote: I've been following this thread for a while now, but I haven't seen anyone really discussing the religious aspects of Westeros, what do you guys think/ assume about it? (Interested because I refuse to wiki the stuff in fear of spoilers) We have the Old Gods/ Ways, believe in spirits in plants/ animals etc, a very heathen point of view, mostly practiced by the northern part of Westeros (Stark/ Karstark, and ofcourse the wildling areas). If I understand correctly, most people are moving away from this religion in favor of the New Gods/ Ways. Special powers: Greenseers (Worgs/ Wargs?), people able to posses the minds of animals and have dream-visions. Most notable practitioners: Brann Stark, his new buddy, what's his name and the Wildling army. The R'Hollor or Fire God of Light, a new deity to Westeros, mostly practiced in the Eastern World, not really known to the viewers since Westeros doesn't really believe in him yet. This religion seems to be slowely creeping into Westeros. Special Powers: Resurrection Most notable practitioners: Bannerman without banners, Stannis Baratheon & the Red Priestess (My assumption, seeing as this God seems to be related to fire and the dragon eggs hatched in fire without harming Dany, is that they have some kind of connection) The Drowned God, a small religion mostly practiced on the Iron Islands/ Pyke. Main religion of the Greyjoys. No notable events regarding this religion for as far as I know. Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: Greyjoys The New Gods, a huge religion based on seven deities; the Smith, the Crone, the Father, the Mother, the Warrior, the Maiden and the Stranger. Seems mostly focused on the common people, seeing how every deity is something they can relate to. Mostly practiced in the southern part of Westeros (Lannister/ Baratheon/ Tyrell area) Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: most of Westeros On a side note; does anyone have the speech Littlefinger said in the last episode, I couldn't really hear him over the sound effects I've concluded that the Lord of Light is overpowered and should be nerfed. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On May 07 2013 00:40 Zandar wrote: Just an executioner doing his job though. The one who ordered the execution is the one to blame imo. I agree. I don't see why she cares so much about hating Illyn Payne and the Hound when they're just following orders, and would have their lives screwed over or lost if they didn't obey their orders. Did she not know about how her own father would execute people? She's so stupid/ignorant in the way she thinks; I guess it kinda makes sense for a 13 YO (or whatever her age is supposed to be) but even at that age most people people understand the bigger picture. | ||
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Splynn
United States225 Posts
On May 09 2013 17:18 Xapti wrote: I agree. I don't see why she cares so much about hating Illyn Payne and the Hound when they're just following orders, and would have their lives screwed over or lost if they didn't obey their orders. Did she not know about how her own father would execute people? She's so stupid/ignorant in the way she thinks; I guess it kinda makes sense for a 13 YO (or whatever her age is supposed to be) but even at that age most people people understand the bigger picture. Actually, the way Eddard Stark executed himself was revealed in the first episode; he does it himself. The quote is something like "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword." Everything about how Arya was raised would tell her to hate Payne and the Hound for what they did. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3817 Posts
Reading the book is awesome though, makes you remember stuff you had totally forgot happened in Season 1 of the series.  | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On May 09 2013 17:26 Splynn wrote: Sure, but everything still applies. Her beef should be with Joffrey who ordered them to kill, and did did not kill the persons for himself as her father would would have done. They just killed a person like her father did, they were just ordered to and had absolutely no choice. Actually, the way Eddard Stark executed himself was revealed in the first episode; he does it himself. The quote is something like "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword." Everything about how Arya was raised would tell her to hate Payne and the Hound for what they did. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 09 2013 19:09 Xapti wrote: Sure, but everything still applies. Her beef should be with Joffrey who ordered them to kill, and did did not kill the persons for himself as her father would would have done. They just killed a person like her father did, they were just ordered to and had absolutely no choice. She is a small kid. She is younger then she looks in the show. It her way of dealing with the situation where she lost her father, her family is in mortal danger and she is living day by day as a nobody just trying to survive. | ||
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Partha
New Zealand163 Posts
Also I reckon Robb is trying to trick the Freys with this marriage thing, he will take over the Twins and use the combination to march to Lannister lands? | ||
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frontliner2
Netherlands844 Posts
On May 09 2013 16:01 zmsFlood wrote: I've concluded that the Lord of Light is overpowered and should be nerfed. GoT patch 1.01: - dragons can no longer swim - individual resurrections by lords of light decreased to 2 | ||
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Flyingdutchman
Netherlands858 Posts
On May 09 2013 15:18 venomium wrote: I've been following this thread for a while now, but I haven't seen anyone really discussing the religious aspects of Westeros, what do you guys think/ assume about it? (Interested because I refuse to wiki the stuff in fear of spoilers) We have the Old Gods/ Ways, believe in spirits in plants/ animals etc, a very heathen point of view, mostly practiced by the northern part of Westeros (Stark/ Karstark, and ofcourse the wildling areas). If I understand correctly, most people are moving away from this religion in favor of the New Gods/ Ways. Special powers: Greenseers (Worgs/ Wargs?), people able to posses the minds of animals and have dream-visions. Most notable practitioners: Brann Stark, his new buddy, what's his name and the Wildling army. The R'Hollor or Fire God of Light, a new deity to Westeros, mostly practiced in the Eastern World, not really known to the viewers since Westeros doesn't really believe in him yet. This religion seems to be slowely creeping into Westeros. Special Powers: Resurrection Most notable practitioners: Bannerman without banners, Stannis Baratheon & the Red Priestess (My assumption, seeing as this God seems to be related to fire and the dragon eggs hatched in fire without harming Dany, is that they have some kind of connection) The Drowned God, a small religion mostly practiced on the Iron Islands/ Pyke. Main religion of the Greyjoys. No notable events regarding this religion for as far as I know. Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: Greyjoys The New Gods, a huge religion based on seven deities; the Smith, the Crone, the Father, the Mother, the Warrior, the Maiden and the Stranger. Seems mostly focused on the common people, seeing how every deity is something they can relate to. Mostly practiced in the southern part of Westeros (Lannister/ Baratheon/ Tyrell area) Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: most of Westeros On a side note; does anyone have the speech Littlefinger said in the last episode, I couldn't really hear him over the sound effects The parallels I see with our world are as follows: Old gods: (Tribal) paganism Rhollor: Judaism/christianity the 7: Greek/Roman gods where each god has its own domain of control, collectively covering all major aspects of life Drowned God: I'd put this under the Greek/Roman way where the drowned god is worshipped solely because that is the only livelihood they have on the iron islands. The way in which the major religions are competing follows our history | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On May 09 2013 15:18 venomium wrote: + Show Spoiler + I've been following this thread for a while now, but I haven't seen anyone really discussing the religious aspects of Westeros, what do you guys think/ assume about it? (Interested because I refuse to wiki the stuff in fear of spoilers) We have the Old Gods/ Ways, believe in spirits in plants/ animals etc, a very heathen point of view, mostly practiced by the northern part of Westeros (Stark/ Karstark, and ofcourse the wildling areas). If I understand correctly, most people are moving away from this religion in favor of the New Gods/ Ways. Special powers: Greenseers (Worgs/ Wargs?), people able to posses the minds of animals and have dream-visions. Most notable practitioners: Brann Stark, his new buddy, what's his name and the Wildling army. The R'Hollor or Fire God of Light, a new deity to Westeros, mostly practiced in the Eastern World, not really known to the viewers since Westeros doesn't really believe in him yet. This religion seems to be slowely creeping into Westeros. Special Powers: Resurrection Most notable practitioners: Bannerman without banners, Stannis Baratheon & the Red Priestess (My assumption, seeing as this God seems to be related to fire and the dragon eggs hatched in fire without harming Dany, is that they have some kind of connection) The Drowned God, a small religion mostly practiced on the Iron Islands/ Pyke. Main religion of the Greyjoys. No notable events regarding this religion for as far as I know. Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: Greyjoys The New Gods, a huge religion based on seven deities; the Smith, the Crone, the Father, the Mother, the Warrior, the Maiden and the Stranger. Seems mostly focused on the common people, seeing how every deity is something they can relate to. Mostly practiced in the southern part of Westeros (Lannister/ Baratheon/ Tyrell area) Special Powers: None? Most notable practitioners: most of Westeros On a side note; does anyone have the speech Littlefinger said in the last episode, I couldn't really hear him over the sound effects At one point Catlyn Stark told someone how gods (not sure if The Seven or The Old Ones) helped her or cursed her. When Ned brought Jon Snow to Winterfell Cat wished for him to die and Jon became terribly sick. So Cat felt guilt and prayed to the gods to help Jon survive and kinda offered the well-being of her family as a sacrifice. Jon survived but now that everything falls apart (Ned dead, Sansa a hostage, Arya missing, Brans accident, Bran and the small one missing/dead) she blames the influence of the gods for her familiys suffering. So we might have another "special ability" here? I have no idea which gods she prayed to, whom she talked to and which season it was. And I don't want to google it cuz spoilers. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On May 09 2013 21:40 Don_Julio wrote: At one point Catlyn Stark told someone how gods (not sure if The Seven or The Old Ones) helped her or cursed her. When Ned brought Jon Snow to Winterfell Cat wished for him to die and Jon became terribly sick. So Cat felt guilt and prayed to the gods to help Jon survive and kinda offered the well-being of her family as a sacrifice. Jon survived but now that everything falls apart (Ned dead, Sansa a hostage, Arya missing, Brans accident, Bran and the small one missing/dead) she blames the influence of the gods for her familiys suffering. So we might have another "special ability" here? I have no idea which gods she prayed to, whom she talked to and which season it was. And I don't want to google it cuz spoilers. She believes in the 7. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On May 09 2013 21:40 Don_Julio wrote: At one point Catlyn Stark told someone how gods (not sure if The Seven or The Old Ones) helped her or cursed her. When Ned brought Jon Snow to Winterfell Cat wished for him to die and Jon became terribly sick. So Cat felt guilt and prayed to the gods to help Jon survive and kinda offered the well-being of her family as a sacrifice. Jon survived but now that everything falls apart (Ned dead, Sansa a hostage, Arya missing, Brans accident, Bran and the small one missing/dead) she blames the influence of the gods for her familiys suffering. So we might have another "special ability" here? I have no idea which gods she prayed to, whom she talked to and which season it was. And I don't want to google it cuz spoilers. It would have been the 7. In season one she says that she still feels a stranger in the Godswood. Plus, she's from Riverrun which is in the south. | ||
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Archers_bane
United States1338 Posts
On May 09 2013 06:40 Cel.erity wrote: If Sam is the key to winning the war against the White Walkers, I'm done with this show forever. Hahaha! Sam is really bothering me right now. Maybe I just dont get his important part in the show right now, hopefully it will change soon so his screen time isn't completely useless to me ^^ And can someone remind me why the guy is called "Onion" knight again? Is there something special I forgot about him | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On May 09 2013 22:27 Archers_bane wrote: Hahaha! Sam is really bothering me right now. Maybe I just dont get his important part in the show right now, hopefully it will change soon so his screen time isn't completely useless to me ^^ And can someone remind me why the guy is called "Onion" knight again? Is there something special I forgot about him Davos is called the Onion Knight because before Robert's rebellion he was a smuggler. During the war Stannis was defending Storm's End (the Baratheon capital) from a prolonged siege. Stannis' men had no food and they were saved when Davos smuggled lots of onions into Storm's End. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On May 09 2013 22:27 Archers_bane wrote: Hahaha! Sam is really bothering me right now. Maybe I just dont get his important part in the show right now, hopefully it will change soon so his screen time isn't completely useless to me ^^ I don't understand the hate for poor old Sam. Is it really just because he's not kick-ass like the other characters? He's your average Joe, forced into that situation and not knowing how to deal with it. It's refreshing to see a perfectly normal dude, and not a character that isn't kicking ass in one way or another all the time. | ||
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